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On July 21 2012 07:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:36 m0ck wrote:
I think it's quite a nice change that we no longer have the best TvZ-players at 70-80% winrate against zerg while the best ZvT-players have around 60% winrate versus terran. Even at this point, do any of the best zergs have vT as their best match-up statistically?
To argue that Z>P in Korea simply flies in the face of all statistics. We've come to expect it outside of Korea because of how strong Stephano is in the match-up, but in Korea it really is a different story. In an ideal world we'd have the snipers with 70-80% win rate in a match on both sides of the coin and a 50% win rate vs the other snipers. I really like having players like MMA was who are just insane vs certain races. There's no fun in randomness.
Hah! But the problem with how things used to be in the TvZ match-up was that the ZvT-snipers with such impressive win-rates simply didn't exist. Now maybe someone like curious reaches that level (and DRG, obviously, when he is in non-brainfart mode). But I certainly agree, that a complete and meticulous tear-down of an opponent is really satisfying to watch. GG-units and bo-wins not so much.
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Jesus Christ Cytoplasm's micro is terrible.
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On July 21 2012 07:46 SayGen wrote:
Shame some of the matches arn't being cased like the alicia and oz games
you enjoy watching diamond players get humiliated?
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Holy crap HerO's micro....
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of course cytoplasm has to allin now..
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On July 21 2012 07:45 Embir wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 21 2012 07:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms. It is not Cytoplasm's build. It's Symbol's. Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid. No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently. And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT. No, Stephano did not popularize it either, but he was doing it way before Symbol became famous. Fruitdealer didn't popularize it in ZvT either, he exploited a bug. Show me some games in tournaments where Stephano uses Ultra/Ling/Bane/Infestors vs Protoss. Prove that nobody was using ling/bane/infestor/ultra before Symbol. That composition along with ling/baneling + drops was all the rage around spring 2011. Which was popularised by Losira. But Losira never used Ultra's. This is pretty damn different to baneling drop because of the fast hive into Ultras. Apologist of Koreans strikes again.
Not sure you know what that word means.
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United States15275 Posts
On July 21 2012 07:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:45 ratbert wrote:On July 21 2012 07:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Has TaeJa vs Dream started yet? TaeJa 1-0 Dream  Thank you. Good first game? Dream's TvZ looked pretty nice yesterday in IPL TAC but I havent seen his TvT in a while so I'm not sure how good it is anymore
His TvT record is pretty bad.
Cytoplasm doing the Zenio 3 base baneling all-in.
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Cytoplasm looking like a unit portrait with those head and face movements ^^
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Fuck... HerO is in trouble T.T
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Gotta all-n that toss before he all-ins you.
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o god this might be bad for hero
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lol hero seeing everything ;/
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why to the devil would you show your lings?!
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damn cytoplasm messed that up
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yay nice
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Fuck yeah, lolz. Badly executed by cyto.
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EPT
