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On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:22 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:21 Alryk wrote:
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Clearly, because he's a foreigner who used to be BM and 7 probe rushed Nestea this one time, and even though he has become much more humble (comparatively) and respectful (definitely) of his opponents, he is just a bad allin foreigner protoss who can't actually hang with koreans and gets by through a combination of luck and his opponents derping. It's not actually his own skill level - if his opponents played like they would against any normal korean, he would easily be Code B.
/sarcasm no but Naniwa is still a rude little man Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that. no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days. God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs. ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples. They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude.
That or they are similar but drew different lots in life. I'm not trolling, just playing devil's advocate.
We can't know how we'd act in a complete different circumstance.
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well, time to prepare for next week's LR thread, which i think i'll be making :D
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On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all.
Wow that's bullshit.
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On July 12 2012 21:46 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
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no but Naniwa is still a rude little man Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that. no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days. God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs. ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples. They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude. a "bit" bm is an understatement, he went into IdrAs fanclub to talk shit about IdrA and there are tons of storys from teams hes been on and palyers hes met that all say hes extremely BM
So what. It's IdrA. It's one grade A dickhead mouthing off about another grade A dickhead. Who cares? Only reason IdrA fans feel butthurt about Naniwa is because Naniwa is a Code S level player who is quite rightly telling IdrA where to stick his opinions.
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On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit.
Yep so much BS
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On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit.
We're at war, we should crush the infidels!
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On July 12 2012 21:48 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:
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Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that.
no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days. God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs. ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples. They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude. a "bit" bm is an understatement, he went into IdrAs fanclub to talk shit about IdrA and there are tons of storys from teams hes been on and palyers hes met that all say hes extremely BM So what. It's IdrA. It's one grade A dickhead mouthing off about another grade A dickhead. Who cares? Only reason IdrA fans feel butthurt about Naniwa is because Naniwa is a Code S level player who is quite rightly telling IdrA where to stick his opinions.
ya lets just ignore all the teams who you couldnt pay to have naniwa on there team
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On July 12 2012 21:44 MrKn4rz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:32 AxionSteel wrote:On July 12 2012 21:30 opterown wrote:
awesome, not THAT much whine. better than most LR i think Nani's personality is beginning to be thoroughly dissected though, a regular event in any Nani game LR thread. We must discuss at length every bad thing about his personality and why we hate him. . Lets start with his eyebrows. I cant understand how anyone could walk around like that.
I hate his bleached hair. He's trying to make himself more Swedish and it comes accross as really tryhard imo.
He also said NesTea was silly because he made a bad move in a game, OMFG that MADE ME SO MAD I REALLY WANTED TO PUNCH THE COMPUTER.
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On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit.
Yeah, "foreigners are one"... why would they? I was personnally cheering for Nani but I can find myself rooting for the korean vs. a foreigner. Not if the foreigner is french, ofc, then it's different because it's my country, but I don't see why I would HAVE to hate koreans and love swedes
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awww atleast nani put up a good fight
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Calm down guys let's not BM the players, great games tonight.
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On July 12 2012 21:47 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:22 Forikorder wrote:
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no but Naniwa is still a rude little man Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that. no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days. God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs. ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples. They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude. That or they are similar but drew different lots in life. I'm not trolling, just playing devil's advocate. We can't know how we'd act in a complete different circumstance.
No you're not trolling, just heavily implying that Naniwa is somehow comparable to a genocidal dictator because he's a bit BM to people on ladder and gets ranty when he doesn't feel he's being respected. Seriously.
It's almost like you've never met anyone with social issues before.
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On July 12 2012 21:49 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit. Yeah, "foreigners are one"... why would they? I was personnally cheering for Nani but I can find myself rooting for the korean vs. a foreigner. Not if the foreigner is french, ofc, then it's different because it's my country, but I don't see why I would HAVE to hate koreans and love swedes
There are only foreigners and koreans in starcraft.
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On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit.
Thats not only bullshit but pretty racist....
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On July 12 2012 21:41 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:39 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:22 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:21 Alryk wrote:On July 12 2012 21:18 Eee wrote:
I can't believe people are saying that Naniwa isn't code s level. He's made ro8 back to back now, and he just went 2-3 against DRG, and he had a good chance to take the third games. How is that not Code S level? Clearly, because he's a foreigner who used to be BM and 7 probe rushed Nestea this one time, and even though he has become much more humble (comparatively) and respectful (definitely) of his opponents, he is just a bad allin foreigner protoss who can't actually hang with koreans and gets by through a combination of luck and his opponents derping. It's not actually his own skill level - if his opponents played like they would against any normal korean, he would easily be Code B. /sarcasm no but Naniwa is still a rude little man Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that. no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? the probe-rush thing was the only questionable moment i can think of Naniwa ever doing. however, one cannot count on two hands and two feet the amount of straight up idiotic and bad-attitude things idra has done. Well he wasn't very nice with some players in interviews. The fact is that it was quite some time ago, and since, he's improved a lot with respect and attitude...
Yes, exactly. Most Players are still young and people should always give them a 2nd chance like, I think, almost all of us did with ByuN and Coca. I struggled a little bit with my decision until today but I am now 100% behind NaNiwa.
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On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all.
Not all of us mindlessly cheer for players just because they happen to look like ourselves or live in the same region.
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On July 12 2012 21:48 Evangelist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:46 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:45 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:44 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:43 Evangelist wrote:On July 12 2012 21:38 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:36 alexanderzero wrote:On July 12 2012 21:35 Tayar wrote:On July 12 2012 21:31 Forikorder wrote:On July 12 2012 21:27 alexanderzero wrote:
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Naniwa may be just a tiny bit anti-social, and that is probably magnified when in front of huge crowds of people and on livestreams that are being watched by thousands of people. I remember not liking him at first, but watching him closely reveals things about him that I think are pretty interesting. He seems to think extremely quickly at all times. When sitting in the booth he was twitching and moving around ridiculously fast (compared to DRG who was barely moving at all). I got the impression that his mind was completely racing. Considering his cerebral style of play, maybe he is just a more introverted and intellectual type of guy who doesn't value things like propping up some superficial image of himself. I kinda respect that.
no but pretty much everyone saids that in private Naniwa is a pretty rude guy, watch JP real talk IdrA he goes into details on how horrible a person Naniwa is cause idra's such a great guy, anyone he doesn't like must be a horrible person. Haha seriously. I can't think of any other pro game who has a worse attitude than IdrA. When Naniwa loses he goes home, practices his ass off, invents new builds and changes the entire metagame. When IdrA loses he makes a web series called imbalance with Artosis, and then does as many interviews as possible complaining about how unfair shit is. the webshow he made while ripping apart Koreans in Code S? and generally being a baller in Korea? Naniwa is making Ro8 Code S twice in a row and will be in Code S next season too. I'm not even a fan of Naniwa but you can't deny that the guy has balls of steel and is easily one of the best protoss in the world. Idra isn't even the best US zerg these days. God knows why the guy has so many fans. It's like being a fan of Titus Bramble ffs. ive never said Naniwa wasnt a good starcaft player all i said was hes a terrible human being Yeah man. Being socially awkward and a bit BM makes you a terrible human being. Get some perspective. There are people out there who order the deaths of thousands of people just for the sake of a few feet of land or have peoples hands cut off for stealing apples. They are terrible human beings. Naniwa is just rude. a "bit" bm is an understatement, he went into IdrAs fanclub to talk shit about IdrA and there are tons of storys from teams hes been on and palyers hes met that all say hes extremely BM So what. It's IdrA. It's one grade A dickhead mouthing off about another grade A dickhead. Who cares? Only reason IdrA fans feel butthurt about Naniwa is because Naniwa is a Code S level player who is quite rightly telling IdrA where to stick his opinions.
IdrA too busy calling out Naniwa, then dodging their showmatch. Idralings are upset 
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What's the point with all this "patriotism" debate. Can't we just cheer for the player we want to win ?
I was cheering for Nani because I wanted a foreigner to do well in GSL, not because I am not Korean....
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On July 12 2012 21:50 disinfect wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:49 SolidMustard wrote:On July 12 2012 21:48 ES.Genie wrote:On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all. Wow that's bullshit. Yeah, "foreigners are one"... why would they? I was personnally cheering for Nani but I can find myself rooting for the korean vs. a foreigner. Not if the foreigner is french, ofc, then it's different because it's my country, but I don't see why I would HAVE to hate koreans and love swedes There are only foreigners and koreans in starcraft.
Because you make it that way. Foreigner korean rivalry is stupid.
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On July 12 2012 21:42 disinfect wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win. Agree. Not cheering for the foreigner is like treason. It's like being English and cheering for Spain to win the world cup because they are the better team. Foreigners are one! Even if you hate the player, you should cheer for him so that we can crush these Koreans once and for all.
I'm Italian...why would I want a Swede to win? Your analogy makes no sense. Should I root for Cloud to win the GSL then?
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