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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4401
I want a TvZ finals so that Byun can revolutionise the meta game
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4402
On July 12 2012 21:19 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:16 Toadvine wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:14 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:11 Belha wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win.


he's a Zerg. Naniwa is boring to watch.


That is YOUR opinion.

DRG is stronger overall player, but the class S micro from Nani always shows off interesting games.


compare that serie to Seed vs Symbol. Look at the builds/decision making from Seed. Watch Nani's game plan.


Frankly, if DRG keeps playing like he did in this series, both MC and Seed should be able to stomp him easily. Symbol played way better yesterday than DRG did today, and still lost.


There are several options: DRG play bad, as simply as that, or he got cocky or he had trouble vs Nani's build. The last one doesn't seem true since he did quite well against the 2b 4gate, so he has to step up if he wants to beat MC.

last one is obviously true if you watched game one, Naniwas build would completely throw off every timings hes ever known so took a couple games to get completely used to it, if he had experience against that build Game 1 would ahve looked like game 5
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4403
On July 12 2012 21:21 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:19 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:17 Figgy wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:15 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:14 Nabes wrote:
So the GSL actually did use the wrong map in game 1 nestea vs byun o_o

source?


There is no source. It's a bullshit lie. There has never been a neutral depot there.

http://i.imgur.com/3XzHO.jpg heh


That's not GSL_Metropolis.

It's funny because that link is actually the wrong version of the map <_<

John's twitter has already said there were no neutral depots on the GSL version of the map...


Either way they screwed up at some point.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4404
On July 12 2012 21:18 Eee wrote:
I can't believe people are saying that Naniwa isn't code s level. He's made ro8 back to back now, and he just went 2-3 against DRG, and he had a good chance to take the third games. How is that not Code S level?


Clearly, because he's a foreigner who used to be BM and 7 probe rushed Nestea this one time, and even though he has become much more humble (comparatively) and respectful (definitely) of his opponents, he is just a bad allin foreigner protoss who can't actually hang with koreans and gets by through a combination of luck and his opponents derping. It's not actually his own skill level - if his opponents played like they would against any normal korean, he would easily be Code B.

/sarcasm
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4405

On July 12 2012 21:18 Eee wrote:
I can't believe people are saying that Naniwa isn't code s level. He's made ro8 back to back now, and he just went 2-3 against DRG, and he had a good chance to take the third games. How is that not Code S level?


Sorry i can't resist.

"Haters.... haters everywhere" !

Seriously, making back to back Code S Ro8 and being kicked by MVP the first time and DRG the second time is completely code S level.

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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4406
On July 12 2012 21:20 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:19 Hall0wed wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:17 Figgy wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:15 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:14 Nabes wrote:
So the GSL actually did use the wrong map in game 1 nestea vs byun o_o

source?


There is no source. It's a bullshit lie. There has never been a neutral depot there.


Indeed. Dude was just making crap up to try and cause drama that isn't there.


Can someone find me some games from this season to see if they have been using different versions all season or have they just been stealth changing it.


I just looked at the VoD for Seed vs. Symbol, there is NO neutral supply depot.
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Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
July 12 2012 12:21 GMT
#4407
Just to clarify- Naniwa had great micro, but terrible unit control. Those are two different things. His untis didnt move together, didnt split well, he would forget parts of them (like in the last game a group of 8 stalkers sat after warp in and didnt participate in the fight on the high groud), move command into armys. He had terrible control of his units that was almost overshadowed by great micro.
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
GhostyGhost
Profile Joined January 2012
United States29 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4408
On July 12 2012 21:19 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:18 Aeceus wrote:
Byun vs DRG finals would be awesome


Ehh, I dunno man, DRG vT seems like he'd just roflstomp ByuN.

But hey, maybe ByuN is truly capable of pulling out God Mode and taking DRG out, I can definitely see that being the case...


Ryung borrowed a page from MMA's book and beat drg in a macro game by constant harassment and small engagements. Byun can do the same thing. But over a whole series? That'd be incredible.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4409
At this rate Naniwa might seriously lose both of his Ro8 runs to the Champion-to-be, lol.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4410
Wow didnt expect byun to win, especially with 3-0.

Glad the superior player won in the other quarter
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4411
On July 12 2012 21:21 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:20 Adreme wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:19 Hall0wed wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:17 Figgy wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:15 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:14 Nabes wrote:
So the GSL actually did use the wrong map in game 1 nestea vs byun o_o

source?


There is no source. It's a bullshit lie. There has never been a neutral depot there.


Indeed. Dude was just making crap up to try and cause drama that isn't there.


Can someone find me some games from this season to see if they have been using different versions all season or have they just been stealth changing it.


I just looked at the VoD for Seed vs. Symbol, there is NO neutral supply depot.


At least, if they used the wrong version, they're consistent with it...
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4412
On July 12 2012 21:21 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:18 Eee wrote:
I can't believe people are saying that Naniwa isn't code s level. He's made ro8 back to back now, and he just went 2-3 against DRG, and he had a good chance to take the third games. How is that not Code S level?


Clearly, because he's a foreigner who used to be BM and 7 probe rushed Nestea this one time, and even though he has become much more humble (comparatively) and respectful (definitely) of his opponents, he is just a bad allin foreigner protoss who can't actually hang with koreans and gets by through a combination of luck and his opponents derping. It's not actually his own skill level - if his opponents played like they would against any normal korean, he would easily be Code B.

/sarcasm

no but Naniwa is still a rude little man
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
July 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#4413
On July 12 2012 21:21 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:21 Figgy wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:19 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:17 Figgy wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:15 Forikorder wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:14 Nabes wrote:
So the GSL actually did use the wrong map in game 1 nestea vs byun o_o

source?


There is no source. It's a bullshit lie. There has never been a neutral depot there.

http://i.imgur.com/3XzHO.jpg heh


That's not GSL_Metropolis.

It's funny because that link is actually the wrong version of the map <_<

John's twitter has already said there were no neutral depots on the GSL version of the map...


Either way they screwed up at some point.


I actually need to quote this again because not only is that the wrong map, it's an old as hell replay as well.
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 12 2012 12:23 GMT
#4414
On July 12 2012 21:22 Zambrah wrote:
At this rate Naniwa might seriously lose both of his Ro8 runs to the Champion-to-be, lol.


In fact Naniwa isn't a Kingslayer. HE'S A KING MAKER !
LiquipediaWanderer
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 12 2012 12:23 GMT
#4415
On July 12 2012 21:21 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:18 Eee wrote:
I can't believe people are saying that Naniwa isn't code s level. He's made ro8 back to back now, and he just went 2-3 against DRG, and he had a good chance to take the third games. How is that not Code S level?


Clearly, because he's a foreigner who used to be BM and 7 probe rushed Nestea this one time, and even though he has become much more humble (comparatively) and respectful (definitely) of his opponents, he is just a bad allin foreigner protoss who can't actually hang with koreans and gets by through a combination of luck and his opponents derping. It's not actually his own skill level - if his opponents played like they would against any normal korean, he would easily be Code B.

/sarcasm

I'll skip the sarcasm and say i just plain don't like the fellow even if i respect him as a good player i really dislike him as a person so cannot really root for him.. pretty much any other foreigner (aside from idra) i would be rooting for all the way in the gsl.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 12:25:12
July 12 2012 12:23 GMT
#4416
On July 12 2012 21:22 GhostyGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:19 Zambrah wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:18 Aeceus wrote:
Byun vs DRG finals would be awesome


Ehh, I dunno man, DRG vT seems like he'd just roflstomp ByuN.

But hey, maybe ByuN is truly capable of pulling out God Mode and taking DRG out, I can definitely see that being the case...


Ryung borrowed a page from MMA's book and beat drg in a macro game by constant harassment and small engagements. Byun can do the same thing. But over a whole series? That'd be incredible.


Well, you have to take the map into consideration, Whirlwind is ultramassive, though I can STILL see ByuN pulling the constant drop style off on some of the other maps, but probably to a reduced effect.

EDIT: DRG vs ByuN would probably make for a beastly finals, but I just... I just can't see DRG losing.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
July 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#4417
On July 12 2012 21:11 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win.


Well thats a silly question, some people enjoy seeing annoying fanboys getting crushed, some people don't like Naniwa etc.


Ugh that's a hard one for me... I enjoy seeing annoying fanboys get crushed, but at the same time I don't really like Naniwa.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
July 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#4418
On July 12 2012 21:23 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:22 Zambrah wrote:
At this rate Naniwa might seriously lose both of his Ro8 runs to the Champion-to-be, lol.


In fact Naniwa isn't a Kingslayer. HE'S A KING MAKER !


Oh god, Naniwa is going to spawn his own curse...
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#4419
On July 12 2012 21:23 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:22 Zambrah wrote:
At this rate Naniwa might seriously lose both of his Ro8 runs to the Champion-to-be, lol.


In fact Naniwa isn't a Kingslayer. HE'S A KING MAKER !

That makes it sound like he makes them.
King Sacrifice sounds more appropriate
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#4420
On July 12 2012 21:19 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 21:08 sAsImre wrote:
On July 12 2012 21:07 Animzor wrote:
Can't understand why a foreigner would want DRG to win.


he's a Zerg. Naniwa is boring to watch.

I understand why a foreigner could cheer for DRG over Naniwa, but I really don't get how you think Naniwa is boring to watch.


he doesn't fit well in bo5 series imo because he doesn't have a lot of variations in his builds + MY opinion is thathis 1g FE build isn't really interesting. ie Seed's canon rush in g5 was freaking excited because it was planned and perfectly executed instead of having Xtimes the same opening. The games are tense but not really interesting. And tension isn't enough if you're not emotionnaly involved (and i don't really care about P or Z :D)
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