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!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
July 08 2012 16:53 GMT
#1601
i love it that mc is out

cause now he can cast!!!
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
July 08 2012 16:53 GMT
#1602
On July 09 2012 01:50 4ZakeN87 wrote:
All Korean fanboys plz put your head under water for 5 min.

Yeah Nerchio just took down best protoss on the planet and is 18-4 so far in the tournament. Pure luck of course.


I'm not sure MC is the best toss on the planet, and even though my favourite players are all koreans, I've always loved Nerchio's style and I've always trusted his chances against good korean players.

No luck indeed.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1603
Man I'm still so sad that sLivko lost... he had that game 4 ;(((
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1604
On July 09 2012 01:53 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:52 Musicus wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:48 GregMandel wrote:
Lol @ the guy talking about the queen buff, yeah sure thats totally what made MC make the poorest decision possible and all-in twice in a row. Dumb people, dumb people everywhere ....


Well all-ining several times in a row usually works for MC, so nobody can really blame him for what. It would be weird to not play the style you are most comfortable and had most succes with, but as Bly said, Nerchio is just so good at defending them and does never hesitate to basetrade or something.

I don't understand why Zergs don't just practice against all-ins. It's pretty much the only way people play high level PvZ, so why bother practising macro strats? Barely any Protoss players macro against Zerg because it's a lost cause. Just train against 2base all-ins and you'll be fine.


Who says they don't...
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1605
On July 09 2012 01:52 kju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:51 dragonborn wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:49 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
lol all the mc fanboys in tears, because the euro zerg with the best pvz won a bo5. my god just suck it.

Some of the hate might also be from stephano fanboys, who just can't handle their hero getting usurped by a better zerg.


lol no Stephano fanboys like Nerchio and Stephano is not getting usurped. Stephano also have beat MC. No idea wtf you smoking tbh

On July 09 2012 01:47 ES.Genie wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 Vadrigar wrote:
Korean fanboys tears yes yes! Cry me some more! Let's go nerdchio, you can do it!

I will, when a foreigner finally manages to qualify for Code A. But yeah, EU > KR...


bla bla bla

MC > Stephano. Nerchio > MC

Therefore Nerchio > Stephano. Totally

GoOdy > MMA. MMA > MVP

Therefore GoOdy > MVP. Totally.


flawless logic all over the place. goody for gsl champ


So goody's flash number is 3?
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1606
On July 09 2012 01:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:52 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:52 kju wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:51 dragonborn wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:49 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:47 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 polyphonyEX wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:44 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
lol all the mc fanboys in tears, because the euro zerg with the best pvz won a bo5. my god just suck it.

Some of the hate might also be from stephano fanboys, who just can't handle their hero getting usurped by a better zerg.


lol no Stephano fanboys like Nerchio and Stephano is not getting usurped. Stephano also have beat MC. No idea wtf you smoking tbh

On July 09 2012 01:47 ES.Genie wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 Vadrigar wrote:
Korean fanboys tears yes yes! Cry me some more! Let's go nerdchio, you can do it!

I will, when a foreigner finally manages to qualify for Code A. But yeah, EU > KR...


bla bla bla

MC > Stephano. Nerchio > MC

Therefore Nerchio > Stephano. Totally

GoOdy > MMA. MMA > MVP

Therefore GoOdy > MVP. Totally.


flawless logic all over the place. goody for gsl champ

Also I don't think you understand sarcasm.

...I think he did :s

Nechio is around the same level as Stephano anyway, flawed logic withstanding.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1607
Lol Idra Reading TL
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1608
ooooh sick casting combo
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
LiOn
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria239 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1609
This is evoling to so much trashtalk and bullshit its incredible. Haters gonna hate. Deal with it.
진지해? ^_^
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1610
Man, I never thought reading TL threads is so much fun :D
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1611
On July 09 2012 01:48 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:46 nojok wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:43 Azarkon wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:42 candid wrote:
no more excuses for idra if some random nobody can with pvz vs the wordls best toss LOL game balance


Random nobody?

Nerdchio is the best EU Zerg other than Stephano.

Well with this win he maybe took the spot as best foreigner zerg. If he takes the tournament, I will call him current best foreigner zerg.


I don't think you can call someone the best foreigner zerg because of one tournament result, Stephano constantly posts consistently better results than Nerchio in big tournaments. Nerchio would have to win a couple more things before he could stake that claim.

From your point of view, which is judging current skill from tournaments which happened in the last 6 months, I agree. But my point of view is that SC2 is very very volatile and that only less than a month results matter. It's a recent change in my mind, but check MVP, he was top a month ago & this month he's average.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1612
I think MC's weakness, his overconfidence, cost him the series. I remember the last time he played nerchio and he 3-0 him in humiliating fashion. Think MC thought he could do the same this time, so ended up playing pretty badly thinking he could still win with the strats he used today. Pretty disappointing series. Yongwha must now carry the torch and win home story!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1613
Omg omg omg Nerchio !!! Grats. Now just fingers crossed for no ZvZ final :D
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1614
On July 09 2012 01:53 !LL wrote:
i love it that mc is out

cause now he can cast!!!

Not really. 2 series left to go and MC has to play his 3rd place match.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 08 2012 16:54 GMT
#1615
On July 09 2012 01:54 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:53 Shiori wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:52 Musicus wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:48 GregMandel wrote:
Lol @ the guy talking about the queen buff, yeah sure thats totally what made MC make the poorest decision possible and all-in twice in a row. Dumb people, dumb people everywhere ....


Well all-ining several times in a row usually works for MC, so nobody can really blame him for what. It would be weird to not play the style you are most comfortable and had most succes with, but as Bly said, Nerchio is just so good at defending them and does never hesitate to basetrade or something.

I don't understand why Zergs don't just practice against all-ins. It's pretty much the only way people play high level PvZ, so why bother practising macro strats? Barely any Protoss players macro against Zerg because it's a lost cause. Just train against 2base all-ins and you'll be fine.


Who says they don't...

Because some of them just look like fish out of water when a Protoss all-ins them.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9222 Posts
July 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1616
On July 09 2012 01:52 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:48 GregMandel wrote:
Lol @ the guy talking about the queen buff, yeah sure thats totally what made MC make the poorest decision possible and all-in twice in a row. Dumb people, dumb people everywhere ....


Well all-ining several times in a row usually works for MC, so nobody can really blame him for what. It would be weird to not play the style you are most comfortable and had most succes with, but as Bly said, Nerchio is just so good at defending them and does never hesitate to basetrade or something.


I don't understand what's wrong with MC all-ining. 2 base all-ins are more standard than "macro" play in PvZ currently so what's the problem?
You're now breathing manually
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1617
On July 09 2012 01:47 MrShankly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:45 samurai80 wrote:
I liked the way Nerchio won that, pretty convincing, but him smiling like this after winning. It looks bm to me. Maybe I'm the only one but that's my impression.

He basically just beat the most succesful protoss in the world, when you work so hard, so much practice etc and it pays off maybe he finds it hard not to smile?

I remember reading an interview where nerchio says he thought he was on a similar/same level as stephano.

You misunderstand, I don't say it was bad for him to be happy and show it, but this smile, it looked so much like he was making fun of MC so badly. I've nothing against him, just to say I wouldn't be too happy if I just lost and saw my opponent showing this kind teasing smile. I wouldn't blame my opponent but still it would make me a bit angry inside.
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
July 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1618
On July 09 2012 01:47 Champloo wrote:
Give me your tears, Korean fanboys! Europeans protecting their land in 2012!

Dreamhack Stockholm: Thorzain
Dreamhack Summer: Mana
HSC V: Nerchio

Send MVP, send MC, send Hero, you can send whoever you want.



this right here, spillin out da truth beans
Nothing worth having comes easy.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 16:56:26
July 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1619
On July 09 2012 01:52 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:47 najreteip wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:46 farvacola wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:43 Kreb wrote:
As Incontrol said, that was in convincing fashion. He has showed he can handle robo play, stargate play, gateway allins. And he has has played with roaches, ling/infestor, muta. Very impressive.

Meh, the only thing this series should convince anyone of is that MC has his down days. He played too poorly for this to reflect too greatly on Nerchio, although his reactions to MC's mistakes were certainly proficient.

Oh great here we go again
foreigner beats a top korean, korean played poorly

stop that bs please


So youre saying he didnt? Mc lost with some pretty silly allins and barely won after holding an 8 pool while taking no damage.
He didnt play well, I dont see how one can even argue this..

Im still confused by MCs play, is he so afraid of playing macro against zergs?

And yeah, nerchio played that well but the last game was a buildorder win which is always lucky to some degree, why cant some people just accept this?

Lets see how Yongwa does :/



Its simple really. MC underestimated Nerchio.

There were alot of causes. But lets go back to before this match started. MC went into this having 'smashed' Nerchio many times, with both Protoss and Terran. I dont believe he had ever lost to Nerchio.

Nerchio is top 3 foreign zerg, who is good at 'all-in's. MC played into Nerchios comfort zone, while underestimating him. Thats the best recipe for an upset. And we got one. MC y so arrogant sometimes??? he has the best macro pvz, idk why he only plays macro pvz vs stephano and drg

gratz nerchio
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
July 08 2012 16:55 GMT
#1620
On July 09 2012 01:53 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 01:50 Champloo wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:47 ES.Genie wrote:
On July 09 2012 01:45 Vadrigar wrote:
Korean fanboys tears yes yes! Cry me some more! Let's go nerdchio, you can do it!

I will, when a foreigner finally manages to qualify for Code A. But yeah, EU > KR...


I don't see a single reason for a European to move to Korea only to play in Code A or S. That's basically the only tournament they have there and the pricepool is way too low for anyone to move there for 3 months.

Yeah because money is everything in sports...


Prove your worth to me by making commitments, i have the right to demand it!!!11

Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
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