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On June 26 2012 23:28 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 23:21 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:17 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:03 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 22:59 Azzur wrote:
Bomber showing in game2 why he will never be a GSL champion (or advance far, for that matter) - you won't see MVP losing games like that not sure if serious but he lost the bc game vs squirtle and u can make very strong points of comparaison between the two so lol youre kindof a joke if serious and u dont understand much about high level play CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr showing why he is such a poor poster - you won't see good posters making non-sensical posts like this that can be barely understood lol youre trying hard to get me so mad i would get banned i guess but what is so hard to understand ? i dont want to write a wall that nobody will read to explain why the metropolis game between mvp and squirtle was similar with this one. supreme lategame, mass bcs, loses everything to spellcasters from other races despite getting a sure win in theory. The bottom line is that Bomber has shown time and time again to throw away games - game2 is no exception. Hence Waxangel's rule - never trust Bomber and always trust MVP. It is pretty much common knowledge to everyone who follows the SC2 scene. I don't understand how you can even put Bomber and MVP in the same category lol Its really superficial of you to say that. this game didnt prove anything and a lot of players have to deal with emotionnal issues and such. he would not have attacked like that if he remained cold headed after destroying the bases thats for sure, but mvp did the exact same vs squirtle. Its one of the things a player has to work on, and u have no way to know how much bomber is aware of it and if he trys to combat that, and its in no way something that one cannot overcome, in fact hes already proven he is smart enough to overcome a lot. players do in fact improve, and bomber is comparable in skill to mvp. mkp too would not have won anything if he didnt learn how to control his emotions better, and he did need 3 gsl finals experience to do so
Back in 2011 where Bomber beat MVP 4-2 at Code A finals,Bomber was looking consistently very strong.
I rerember that Bomber was at period of sheer dominance during his MLG run and won it and people never doubted him.
But after he choked hard against Byun at GSL Code S, he started to slump really hard whereas MVP was winning 3 championships now 4 GSL title.
But not now Bomber is not comparable skill to MVP as of now especially with today's play.
MVP would never bungled that game like that so hard IMO.
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Wow if I hadn't chosen Seal as a random upset I would have gotten all my liquibets right, too bad... Congrats to Hero and all the other advancers!
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On June 27 2012 00:40 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 23:28 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:21 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:17 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:03 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 22:59 Azzur wrote:
Bomber showing in game2 why he will never be a GSL champion (or advance far, for that matter) - you won't see MVP losing games like that not sure if serious but he lost the bc game vs squirtle and u can make very strong points of comparaison between the two so lol youre kindof a joke if serious and u dont understand much about high level play CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr showing why he is such a poor poster - you won't see good posters making non-sensical posts like this that can be barely understood lol youre trying hard to get me so mad i would get banned i guess but what is so hard to understand ? i dont want to write a wall that nobody will read to explain why the metropolis game between mvp and squirtle was similar with this one. supreme lategame, mass bcs, loses everything to spellcasters from other races despite getting a sure win in theory. The bottom line is that Bomber has shown time and time again to throw away games - game2 is no exception. Hence Waxangel's rule - never trust Bomber and always trust MVP. It is pretty much common knowledge to everyone who follows the SC2 scene. I don't understand how you can even put Bomber and MVP in the same category lol Its really superficial of you to say that. this game didnt prove anything and a lot of players have to deal with emotionnal issues and such. he would not have attacked like that if he remained cold headed after destroying the bases thats for sure, but mvp did the exact same vs squirtle. Its one of the things a player has to work on, and u have no way to know how much bomber is aware of it and if he trys to combat that, and its in no way something that one cannot overcome, in fact hes already proven he is smart enough to overcome a lot. players do in fact improve, and bomber is comparable in skill to mvp. mkp too would not have won anything if he didnt learn how to control his emotions better, and he did need 3 gsl finals experience to do so Back in 2011 where Bomber beat MVP 4-2 at Code A finals,Bomber was looking consistently very strong. I rerember that Bomber was at period of sheer dominance during his MLG run and won it and people never doubted him. But after he choked hard against Byun at GSL Code S, he started to slump really hard whereas MVP was winning 3 championships now 4 GSL title. But not now Bomber is not comparable skill to MVP as of now especially with today's play. MVP would never bungled that game like that so hard IMO.
MVP lost a full supply of BCs against squrtle, stop over-analyzing
I personally think bomber is the best macro terran, but he is inconsistent as hell
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On June 27 2012 00:51 SKYFISH_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 00:40 FakeDeath wrote:On June 26 2012 23:28 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:21 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:17 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:03 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 22:59 Azzur wrote:
Bomber showing in game2 why he will never be a GSL champion (or advance far, for that matter) - you won't see MVP losing games like that not sure if serious but he lost the bc game vs squirtle and u can make very strong points of comparaison between the two so lol youre kindof a joke if serious and u dont understand much about high level play CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr showing why he is such a poor poster - you won't see good posters making non-sensical posts like this that can be barely understood lol youre trying hard to get me so mad i would get banned i guess but what is so hard to understand ? i dont want to write a wall that nobody will read to explain why the metropolis game between mvp and squirtle was similar with this one. supreme lategame, mass bcs, loses everything to spellcasters from other races despite getting a sure win in theory. The bottom line is that Bomber has shown time and time again to throw away games - game2 is no exception. Hence Waxangel's rule - never trust Bomber and always trust MVP. It is pretty much common knowledge to everyone who follows the SC2 scene. I don't understand how you can even put Bomber and MVP in the same category lol Its really superficial of you to say that. this game didnt prove anything and a lot of players have to deal with emotionnal issues and such. he would not have attacked like that if he remained cold headed after destroying the bases thats for sure, but mvp did the exact same vs squirtle. Its one of the things a player has to work on, and u have no way to know how much bomber is aware of it and if he trys to combat that, and its in no way something that one cannot overcome, in fact hes already proven he is smart enough to overcome a lot. players do in fact improve, and bomber is comparable in skill to mvp. mkp too would not have won anything if he didnt learn how to control his emotions better, and he did need 3 gsl finals experience to do so Back in 2011 where Bomber beat MVP 4-2 at Code A finals,Bomber was looking consistently very strong. I rerember that Bomber was at period of sheer dominance during his MLG run and won it and people never doubted him. But after he choked hard against Byun at GSL Code S, he started to slump really hard whereas MVP was winning 3 championships now 4 GSL title. But not now Bomber is not comparable skill to MVP as of now especially with today's play. MVP would never bungled that game like that so hard IMO. he lost a full supply of BCs against squrtle, stop over-analyzing i personally think bomber is the best macro terran, but he is inconsistent as hell
Yeah agreed with you that Bomber is the best macro terran.
But he used to be consistent back then if i am not mistaken.
I think he could worked more in his decision making which is very lacking.
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Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations.
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On June 27 2012 01:14 MCDayC wrote:
Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations.
So wierd that former champions are beating B-Team Zergs. Who woulda expected that?
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On June 27 2012 00:53 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 00:51 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 27 2012 00:40 FakeDeath wrote:On June 26 2012 23:28 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:21 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:17 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:03 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 22:59 Azzur wrote:
Bomber showing in game2 why he will never be a GSL champion (or advance far, for that matter) - you won't see MVP losing games like that not sure if serious but he lost the bc game vs squirtle and u can make very strong points of comparaison between the two so lol youre kindof a joke if serious and u dont understand much about high level play CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr showing why he is such a poor poster - you won't see good posters making non-sensical posts like this that can be barely understood lol youre trying hard to get me so mad i would get banned i guess but what is so hard to understand ? i dont want to write a wall that nobody will read to explain why the metropolis game between mvp and squirtle was similar with this one. supreme lategame, mass bcs, loses everything to spellcasters from other races despite getting a sure win in theory. The bottom line is that Bomber has shown time and time again to throw away games - game2 is no exception. Hence Waxangel's rule - never trust Bomber and always trust MVP. It is pretty much common knowledge to everyone who follows the SC2 scene. I don't understand how you can even put Bomber and MVP in the same category lol Its really superficial of you to say that. this game didnt prove anything and a lot of players have to deal with emotionnal issues and such. he would not have attacked like that if he remained cold headed after destroying the bases thats for sure, but mvp did the exact same vs squirtle. Its one of the things a player has to work on, and u have no way to know how much bomber is aware of it and if he trys to combat that, and its in no way something that one cannot overcome, in fact hes already proven he is smart enough to overcome a lot. players do in fact improve, and bomber is comparable in skill to mvp. mkp too would not have won anything if he didnt learn how to control his emotions better, and he did need 3 gsl finals experience to do so Back in 2011 where Bomber beat MVP 4-2 at Code A finals,Bomber was looking consistently very strong. I rerember that Bomber was at period of sheer dominance during his MLG run and won it and people never doubted him. But after he choked hard against Byun at GSL Code S, he started to slump really hard whereas MVP was winning 3 championships now 4 GSL title. But not now Bomber is not comparable skill to MVP as of now especially with today's play. MVP would never bungled that game like that so hard IMO. he lost a full supply of BCs against squrtle, stop over-analyzing i personally think bomber is the best macro terran, but he is inconsistent as hell Yeah agreed with you that Bomber is the best macro terran. But he used to be consistent back then if i am not mistaken. I think he could worked more in his decision making which is very lacking.
He used to be the best macro terran.. MVP/MKP both macro just as good or better nowadays..
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On June 27 2012 01:14 MCDayC wrote:
Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations.
Even if Z is OP it is not unexpected for diamond zergs to lose against master terrans..
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On June 27 2012 01:25 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 01:14 MCDayC wrote:
Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations. Even if Z is OP it is not unexpected for diamond zergs to lose against master terrans..
Basically this. The non zerg players were all much stronger than the Z players. Lots of ex Code S Terrans in there.
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bomber being the best macro terran is a thing of the past. do you guys even watch recent games? bombers macro is beastly but so is most other top terrans....
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On June 27 2012 01:14 MCDayC wrote:
Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations.
did u even watch the games? hero beat jookto with a cannon rush and puzzle beat seal with 2 allins and got crushed in the only macro game that they played : S
as for the tvz's.. look at the player names ^_^. 'nuff said
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Nice to see that Bomber won and advances to the next round, had to leave for class right after he lost the second match.
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On June 27 2012 01:59 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 01:14 MCDayC wrote:
Dat zerg OPness! So weird how GSL results go so dramatically against current expectations. did u even watch the games? hero beat jookto with a cannon rush and puzzle beat seal with 2 allins and got crushed in the only macro game that they played : S as for the tvz's.. look at the player names ^_^. 'nuff said
Seal was good enough to briefly get some Artosis hype, but I'm not sure if that's saying much.
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Man, I just went 8/8 on liquibets, and I even called the final score of all the games correctly. The stars aligned!
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Freaky 
Good effort though. Bomber's a tough first round opponent for my favorite zerg.
Edit: Also TT1 if you see this FANTASTIC effort in NASL bud. Good luck at nationals!
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On June 27 2012 00:08 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 23:55 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:41 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:28 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:21 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:17 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 23:10 Azzur wrote:On June 26 2012 23:03 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:On June 26 2012 22:59 Azzur wrote:
Bomber showing in game2 why he will never be a GSL champion (or advance far, for that matter) - you won't see MVP losing games like that not sure if serious but he lost the bc game vs squirtle and u can make very strong points of comparaison between the two so lol youre kindof a joke if serious and u dont understand much about high level play CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr showing why he is such a poor poster - you won't see good posters making non-sensical posts like this that can be barely understood lol youre trying hard to get me so mad i would get banned i guess but what is so hard to understand ? i dont want to write a wall that nobody will read to explain why the metropolis game between mvp and squirtle was similar with this one. supreme lategame, mass bcs, loses everything to spellcasters from other races despite getting a sure win in theory. The bottom line is that Bomber has shown time and time again to throw away games - game2 is no exception. Hence Waxangel's rule - never trust Bomber and always trust MVP. It is pretty much common knowledge to everyone who follows the SC2 scene. I don't understand how you can even put Bomber and MVP in the same category lol Its really superficial of you to say that. this game didnt prove anything and a lot of players have to deal with emotionnal issues and such. he would not have attacked like that if he remained cold headed after destroying the bases thats for sure, but mvp did the exact same vs squirtle. Its one of the things a player has to work on, and u have no way to know how much bomber is aware of it and if he trys to combat that, and its in no way something that one cannot overcome, in fact hes already proven he is smart enough to overcome a lot. players do in fact improve, and bomber is comparable in skill to mvp. mkp too would not have won anything if he didnt learn how to control his emotions better, and he did need 3 gsl finals experience to do so Well, if Bomber is working on it, I'm not convinced - in my mind, there are certain things player who has a tendency to relax and take things easy should never do: e.g. manner mule, /dance, etc. MVP does the same things, yes, but he's never had a problem with this and so is entitled to do them. bomber doesnt do ceremonys anymore actually. minus vs mkp in gstl final, but its a terrible example. the entire startale team was mentally destroyed after the regame, u could see it in their play, all of them.even parting in the regame just did the same thing but way worse. so no bomber is aware he has to work on his mental game, hes said it on shows, and the lack of manner mules in his games show that. he obviously still puts a lot of his personality in his play but thats what makes him a top player too He dropped manner mules in game1. I haven't rewatched game3 so I don't know if he did it then. But the point being - if you're prone to choking games/series, you should never drop a single mule.
Maybe Bomber knows what's better for himself. Koreans seem to be all about their condition and what not. Besides, it's much fun to see pride before the fall.
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yay puzzle, bomber and mma
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7/8 LBs... DAMN YOU THEBEST
On the other hand, god bless you, Freaky LOL
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Man, it really bugs me when Wolf gets on his high horse and down talks players so much. He's one of my favorite casters, but I get really irritated when he gets so emotional (not sure that that is word I'm looking for). He was speaking about how much of an embarrassment Bomber was in that game for sticking around a few minutes, but in such a bizzarre game, it can be hard to know if you still have a shot or not.
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