If you waste too much supply in Ghost the Terran army becomes terrible in direct combat .
The zerg army is terrible in direct combat when you disable infestors.
No matter what you say, they will never agree that Ghosts have a use any more. They are hopelessly convinced they are useless.
I saw Ryung make ghosts against Hero in NASL Playoffs while being a good bit behind v. colossi/high templar/chargelot and he still had great engagements when down on supply. Possibly the only terran I've seen lately actually use ghosts properly the way they did 6 months ago in the HT v Ghost war, instead of just making 0-2 ghosts with 0 emps and getting rolled over by storms. But nope, ghosts are completely worthless. Better make more ravens that do nothing because he doesn't have infinite money to make ghosts as well apparently.
I think they were talking abou specifically for TvZ, not in general
I'm speaking about the general refusal to make any unit remotely nerfed that is pretty much shared by every race. It's like the second an OP unit is brought in line, it suddenly is deemed worthless to build, then suddenly the race gets completely destroyed because it refuses..to make...the unit.
Zergs are still making infestor even after the infestor nerf =)
Also Terrans are still using hellions.
In what way? The blue flame nerf? No one goes BFH against zerg anymore really. And the queen nerf, it's for map control in general in the first place it seems.
Definitely didn't see Jjakji go bio blueflame today at all, no sir
Jjaki being the only one who did it, against Monster who played horribly. How often exactly do you see that build?
The zerg army is terrible in direct combat when you disable infestors.
No matter what you say, they will never agree that Ghosts have a use any more. They are hopelessly convinced they are useless.
I saw Ryung make ghosts against Hero in NASL Playoffs while being a good bit behind v. colossi/high templar/chargelot and he still had great engagements when down on supply. Possibly the only terran I've seen lately actually use ghosts properly the way they did 6 months ago in the HT v Ghost war, instead of just making 0-2 ghosts with 0 emps and getting rolled over by storms. But nope, ghosts are completely worthless. Better make more ravens that do nothing because he doesn't have infinite money to make ghosts as well apparently.
I think they were talking abou specifically for TvZ, not in general
I'm speaking about the general refusal to make any unit remotely nerfed that is pretty much shared by every race. It's like the second an OP unit is brought in line, it suddenly is deemed worthless to build, then suddenly the race gets completely destroyed because it refuses..to make...the unit.
Zergs are still making infestor even after the infestor nerf =)
Also Terrans are still using hellions.
In what way? The blue flame nerf? No one goes BFH against zerg anymore really. And the queen nerf, it's for map control in general in the first place it seems.
Definitely didn't see Jjakji go bio blueflame today at all, no sir
Jjaki being the only one who did it, against Monster who played horribly. How often exactly do you see that build?
Quite a bit? I also see bio thor blueflame, and other midgame blueflame timings (not to mention the obvious mech uses)
Just because you don't watch enough Korean games doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Also Monster playing horribly has nothing to do with anything...
The zerg army is terrible in direct combat when you disable infestors.
No matter what you say, they will never agree that Ghosts have a use any more. They are hopelessly convinced they are useless.
I saw Ryung make ghosts against Hero in NASL Playoffs while being a good bit behind v. colossi/high templar/chargelot and he still had great engagements when down on supply. Possibly the only terran I've seen lately actually use ghosts properly the way they did 6 months ago in the HT v Ghost war, instead of just making 0-2 ghosts with 0 emps and getting rolled over by storms. But nope, ghosts are completely worthless. Better make more ravens that do nothing because he doesn't have infinite money to make ghosts as well apparently.
I think they were talking abou specifically for TvZ, not in general
I'm speaking about the general refusal to make any unit remotely nerfed that is pretty much shared by every race. It's like the second an OP unit is brought in line, it suddenly is deemed worthless to build, then suddenly the race gets completely destroyed because it refuses..to make...the unit.
Zergs are still making infestor even after the infestor nerf =)
Also Terrans are still using hellions.
In what way? The blue flame nerf? No one goes BFH against zerg anymore really. And the queen nerf, it's for map control in general in the first place it seems.
Definitely didn't see Jjakji go bio blueflame today at all, no sir
Jjaki being the only one who did it, against Monster who played horribly. How often exactly do you see that build?
Farily often, actually. You state "no one uses BFH anymore" when we just saw it today and you keep arguin? ...
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No matter what you say, they will never agree that Ghosts have a use any more. They are hopelessly convinced they are useless.
I saw Ryung make ghosts against Hero in NASL Playoffs while being a good bit behind v. colossi/high templar/chargelot and he still had great engagements when down on supply. Possibly the only terran I've seen lately actually use ghosts properly the way they did 6 months ago in the HT v Ghost war, instead of just making 0-2 ghosts with 0 emps and getting rolled over by storms. But nope, ghosts are completely worthless. Better make more ravens that do nothing because he doesn't have infinite money to make ghosts as well apparently.
I think they were talking abou specifically for TvZ, not in general
I'm speaking about the general refusal to make any unit remotely nerfed that is pretty much shared by every race. It's like the second an OP unit is brought in line, it suddenly is deemed worthless to build, then suddenly the race gets completely destroyed because it refuses..to make...the unit.
Zergs are still making infestor even after the infestor nerf =)
Also Terrans are still using hellions.
In what way? The blue flame nerf? No one goes BFH against zerg anymore really. And the queen nerf, it's for map control in general in the first place it seems.
Definitely didn't see Jjakji go bio blueflame today at all, no sir
Jjaki being the only one who did it, against Monster who played horribly. How often exactly do you see that build?
Farily often, actually. You state "no one uses BFH anymore" when we just saw it today and you keep arguin? ...
I said "really", obviously it is used occasionally but not to the extent it was. Maybe I miss all the games it's used but I watch most major tournaments and a good number of streams and almost never see them used by any terran. Feel free to point me to recent tournament matches besides Jjaki v Monster and I'll concede they're still used often, I just never see them compared to MMM or tank/marine after reactor hellion openings with the occasional banshee.
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