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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#3001
On May 28 2012 07:58 power-overwhelming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:57 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:46 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
LMAO.

incoming stephano fans rage?

MC playing standard totally destroyed Stephano.


Stephano fans never rage at all. top 4 is a good performance


Top 4 not too shabby. Somewhat disappointed that the better player lost Good timings and mix of builds from MC. He simply out maneuvered Stephano over the course of the series. It's easy to give advice in hindsight, but Stephano really should do everything in his power just to take games to the late game. Let MC get his third. MC techs too slowly and is not good at all in late, late game situations. He's very, very good up until that point though. Time for MC to lose to Squirtle now I guess.


Diagnosis: Mad


are you 0ne's smurf?
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#3002
On May 28 2012 07:56 eusoc wrote:
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On May 28 2012 07:50 vinsang1000 wrote:
I'm sad for Stephano.

I really think he has to study more diverse strategies for the mid-game to surprise his opponent... If he doesn't do it, his code S spot will no last long...





Now in korea there is a 200/200 roach timing with overlord drop(not even need speed now) that is almost impossible to hold, as you have to defend 3 different places while the ffs are almost useless



IMO this literally is a HUGE problem right now once zergs start learning this


you dont even need roachspeed OR lingspeed, just spend 300/300 on drops and protoss has to defend 3 locations at once while you drop 200food of roach/ling into the toss main at TWELVE MINUTES LITERALLY


honestly lingspeed/roachspeed loses its value after mass forcefields at in play. imo might be better to skip lingspeed and just get droptech for a 200max drop at 12 minutes

this new 200food max + drops strategy thats been going around the korean ladder is KILLER. i agree once stephano starts doing that its gonna be WTFHAX
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#3003
On May 28 2012 08:00 SpiZe wrote:
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?

Having met DJWheat at an MLG - the man is freakin giant.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#3004
On May 28 2012 07:58 power-overwhelming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:57 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:46 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
LMAO.

incoming stephano fans rage?

MC playing standard totally destroyed Stephano.


Stephano fans never rage at all. top 4 is a good performance


Top 4 not too shabby. Somewhat disappointed that the better player lost Good timings and mix of builds from MC. He simply out maneuvered Stephano over the course of the series. It's easy to give advice in hindsight, but Stephano really should do everything in his power just to take games to the late game. Let MC get his third. MC techs too slowly and is not good at all in late, late game situations. He's very, very good up until that point though. Time for MC to lose to Squirtle now I guess.


Diagnosis: Mad


Seconded
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 27 2012 23:01 GMT
#3005
On May 28 2012 07:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
So I thought Stephano had unbeatable best ZvP in the world?


Why do we need post like these T_T

Hey, Stephano ZvP is really good. ( like the stats show, 72% )
But 72% is not 100% as far as I know, and MC is very good at PvZ.
It's normal that it can go eitherway.....
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
May 27 2012 23:01 GMT
#3006
On May 28 2012 08:00 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:59 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:49 Zane wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano


Why do we even need a poll for this?


Cause Stephano might be slightly....just slightly overrated.


Yes, finally, someone saying the truth. Forget objective measures like Elo.


Yes ELO is a great objective measure...
SealOverseer
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
May 27 2012 23:01 GMT
#3007
On May 28 2012 07:58 power-overwhelming wrote:
Let's be honest. The 11 min roach max rush is basically the zerg version of 1-1-1, only better and safer as you can still play standard if it didn't outright kill the toss. The other style stephano plays is the mass bl roach infestor ling play which is in late game.

Other than those two styles he is pretty one dimensional. Players of MC and MVP's caliber who can adjust within a series is always going to find a way to win the series whether it be cheese (MVP vs Toss) or just adjusting timings and build orders (MC vs Stephano). .


Stephano rolled MC in game1 with Ling/Infestor and you just go out and say that he's onedimensional and top Koreans read him easily?



On May 28 2012 07:58 power-overwhelming wrote:
but MC adjusted fully to Stephanos style and won 5-2.


Yes, and 2 weeks later "adjusted" in getting 0-2'd at MLG and now won because of a 2010 6gate allin and a 124HP-left Nexus.

You're talking as if MC is vastly superior to Stephano, which is not the case.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3008
On May 28 2012 08:00 SpiZe wrote:
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?


I think its both. If the two korean players are Smix's height, they're pretty short, and I'm pretty sure Wheat is a decent height himself, maybe 5'10" or 6'
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3009
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3010
I don't wanna be "that guy"... But the translator... dayamn...
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3011
On May 28 2012 08:00 susySquark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:00 SpiZe wrote:
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?

Having met DJWheat at an MLG - the man is freakin giant.

so 6'3" is giant status now?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3012
On May 28 2012 08:00 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:59 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:49 Zane wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano


Why do we even need a poll for this?


Cause Stephano might be slightly....just slightly overrated.


Yes, finally, someone saying the truth. Forget objective measures like Elo.


LOL at elo being objective.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 27 2012 23:02 GMT
#3013
Much better questions this time around.
Mattumsfox
Profile Joined April 2012
United States233 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3014
I'm going to feel bad if squirtle gets to another finals and takes second place again lol.
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3015
On May 28 2012 08:01 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:00 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:59 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:49 Zane wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano


Why do we even need a poll for this?


Cause Stephano might be slightly....just slightly overrated.


Yes, finally, someone saying the truth. Forget objective measures like Elo.


Yes ELO is a great objective measure...


clearly, I guess TaeJa got to be best Terran in the world?

Oh wait, MVP holds all dat GSL titles....
Flash
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3016
What the fuck is he talking about? Everyone will always remember how MVP won despite having non functioning wrists and raped 3 STQ protosses in a row to do so.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3017
No thank you to Smix for translating!? How rude
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3018
On May 28 2012 08:02 Mentalizor wrote:
I don't wanna be "that guy"... But the translator... dayamn...

I think shes very pretty ^^
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3019
On May 28 2012 08:02 Mentalizor wrote:
I don't wanna be "that guy"... But the translator... dayamn...

Hey hey, we all love Smix, lets treat her with some more respect
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#3020
cmon bomber!
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