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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#2981
I havent seen any of bombers games, hows he been playing?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#2982
Why isn't Bomber using his Startale outfit ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 22:57:38
May 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#2983
stephano forgot his stuff in the booth lol
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#2984
So I thought Stephano had unbeatable best ZvP in the world?
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
May 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#2985
On May 28 2012 07:46 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
LMAO.

incoming stephano fans rage?

MC playing standard totally destroyed Stephano.


Stephano fans never rage at all. top 4 is a good performance


Top 4 not too shabby. Somewhat disappointed that the better player lost Good timings and mix of builds from MC. He simply out maneuvered Stephano over the course of the series. It's easy to give advice in hindsight, but Stephano really should do everything in his power just to take games to the late game. Let MC get his third. MC techs too slowly and is not good at all in late, late game situations. He's very, very good up until that point though. Time for MC to lose to Squirtle now I guess.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2986
Let's be honest. The 11 min roach max rush is basically the zerg version of 1-1-1, only better and safer as you can still play standard if it didn't outright kill the toss. The other style stephano plays is the mass bl roach infestor ling play which is in late game.

Other than those two styles he is pretty one dimensional. Players of MC and MVP's caliber who can adjust within a series is always going to find a way to win the series whether it be cheese (MVP vs Toss) or just adjusting timings and build orders (MC vs Stephano).

Stephano fans like to ignore the IPL fight club even though it only happened a month ago, but MC adjusted fully to Stephanos style and won 5-2.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 22:58:56
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2987
On May 28 2012 07:54 SealOverseer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:50 vinsang1000 wrote:
I'm sad for Stephano.

I really think he has to study more diverse strategies for the mid-game to surprise his opponent... If he doesn't do it, his code S spot will no last long...




He doesn't have a codeS spot to begin with

And on Entombed he won a game by going Ling/Infestor against pretty much the same composition MC used to beat him in the last game

It was just a matter of not getting the 3rd for 100HP.


Wasn`t he invited to code S this season?

Stephano uses this strategy because its good and he can execute it perfectly... the games were really close.

But I agree that to play in Code S he needs to diversify or he will be blind countered every time (and this is not only in ZvP).
SEKO SEKO SEKO
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2988
is anyone else getting weird audio lag? the audio seems to desync from the picture the longer I let the stream go. it's fine right when I refresh, but it starts to desync and just gets worse from there.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2989
On May 28 2012 07:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
So I thought Stephano had unbeatable best ZvP in the world?


MC is one of the best Ps in the world, no shame in 2-3 to bosstoss
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2990
On May 28 2012 07:57 The_Darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:46 JohnMatrix wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
LMAO.

incoming stephano fans rage?

MC playing standard totally destroyed Stephano.


Stephano fans never rage at all. top 4 is a good performance


Top 4 not too shabby. Somewhat disappointed that the better player lost Good timings and mix of builds from MC. He simply out maneuvered Stephano over the course of the series. It's easy to give advice in hindsight, but Stephano really should do everything in his power just to take games to the late game. Let MC get his third. MC techs too slowly and is not good at all in late, late game situations. He's very, very good up until that point though. Time for MC to lose to Squirtle now I guess.


Diagnosis: Mad
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2991
On May 28 2012 07:54 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:50 SealOverseer wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ceaRshaf wrote:
MC was idras Nemesis not long ago. Now he is Stephano's.


If you count 8-to-5 months old games I guess it's true.

If you count recent offline performances MC's 3W-4L


Idra vs MC was a complete stomp.


To be fair to IdrA, most of their games were at a time where protoss was completely broken and they had to play on ridiculous maps.

Then again if IdrA was to play MC right now i don't think the result would be very different than it was before.



No...MC won at least half of the games against IdrA when zerg was favored in the matchup, even heavily favored. Historically Z has probably been more favored in the matchup than P, though both have had month long streaks.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3116 Posts
May 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#2992
On May 28 2012 07:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
So I thought Stephano had unbeatable best ZvP in the world?


only when protosses play into his hands or do stupid shit.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#2993
I thought MC choosed his builds very wisely on each map.
From a low level T point of view, it seems to me that the problem is holding this style as master P in the same way it is to deal with lategame P as a master T. I mean there is obvious happiness for some P players to see this roach style punished, which is a good thing as the mu is terribly boring at the moment, but the porblem if this roach max has been an answer to protoss timing attacks after ffe. PvT & specially PvZ are far from becoming as interesting as TvZ to me as a spectator. In game it is still really nice mus.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#2994
On May 28 2012 07:49 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano


Why do we even need a poll for this?


Cause Stephano might be slightly....just slightly overrated.
Flash
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
May 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#2995
On May 28 2012 07:55 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:52 DifuntO wrote:
A bit offtopic but who are the best zergs at the moment,other than DRG,Violet and Steph?

Curious, Leenock, NesTea, not necessarily in that order.


Add in Coca, Symbol and Life.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#2996
twins
yo
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#2997
On May 28 2012 07:55 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:52 DifuntO wrote:
A bit offtopic but who are the best zergs at the moment,other than DRG,Violet and Steph?

Curious, Leenock, NesTea, not necessarily in that order.


Symbol has been bossing it up recently, and I really feel like B4 will be a contender in the coming months.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#2998
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#2999
On May 28 2012 07:59 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:49 Zane wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano


Why do we even need a poll for this?


Cause Stephano might be slightly....just slightly overrated.


Yes, finally, someone saying the truth. Forget objective measures like Elo.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 27 2012 23:00 GMT
#3000
On May 28 2012 07:57 Dodgin wrote:
This sucks for Red Bull, with Stephano out there goes any chance of having a high viewer count for the finals.


PvP makes for boring finals.... Time to play some bw.
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