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On May 10 2012 19:36 FidoDido wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 19:35 illumn wrote: Whining is just too mainstream these days. So many people thinking their race is what's holding back their pro-gaming career. haha this, and when they play vs their own race, they just call it a coinflip MU.
XD
"Dudes I would totally be a progamer Bonjwa if my race wasn't so weak"
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United States23455 Posts
How do they not notice Squirtle's 9-0 PvP record?
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
Getting incredibly hard to keep watching now. So nervous.
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On May 10 2012 19:35 illumn wrote: Whining is just too mainstream these days. So many people thinking their race is what's holding back their pro-gaming career.
This, so much. Every time I see rage infested balance whine I can't help it - all I see is low level leaguers trying to justify their slow or no progress towards "pro-gaming career".
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United States33075 Posts
in the interview room, Mvp says he didn't actually prepare too much specific stuff for this series, he just winged it, such as
SCV timing in game one was because he scanned PartinG and saw his troop count was unusually low
1/1/1 in game two wasn't planned, but he had a feeling it would be a good follow-up to a g1 win
also he said he was fully confident in beating PartinG in a 200/200 game if it went there, and that he thought he should have beat parting in G3 if he didn't make the bad mistake of letting his troops get cut in half.
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Game 4 Parting had Templar and Stalkers in his main, no way he should have let all those medivacs drop down.
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time to play my drinking game, "1 dt 1 shot"
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Hero, go go go, Hero fighting !
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On May 10 2012 19:36 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 19:34 CursivE wrote:On May 10 2012 19:32 Pazuzu wrote:On May 10 2012 19:31 Zealot Orgy wrote: MVP in the finals is a shame to the GSL as a whole.
He had the most disappointing display of skill of all the 32 codeS players, and he made it to the finals thanks to a train of allins.
If STC does it, he's called theSTCheese and blamed by everyone, if MVP does it, "OH WELL ITS HIS WRISTS" "GAME GENIE OMFG BEST GOGO 4TH GSL" "OMG DAT PERFECT TIMING" so much anger...he played standard in 3 games... You missed his point. Out of the round of 32 players... Not this set in isolation. People who seriously think he looked the worst out of all ro32 players are kidding themselves. Seriously, just think about it for a second.
That's fine, but he still didn't address the point and went off half cocked without reading.
MVP is clearly one of the best. But he did cheese more than usual this code s.
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Wolf has a hair fetish, i am sure you'd have a chance Tasteless
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On May 10 2012 19:28 eFonSG wrote: It seems to me like people just straight up dont like protoss around here, either they hit early and are cheesy/2 base players using a style that takes no skill; Or they play a macro game, but instead its just considered a no skill autoloss for the opponent automatically. What great choices as a protoss player x.x
Noticed this as well. Terran and zerg players both hate on protoss a lot. I think it's because two influential players Idra and Demuslim are both really bad vP and spend all their time whining about it. I see so many people claiming that 'protoss is dominating the pro scene' when they haven't won a major tournament for months and haven't won a GSL for over a year.
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On May 10 2012 19:35 teamamerica wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 19:25 Talaris wrote:One huge drop can win you games, yet people QQ about Protoss late game... Thats SC2... if those feedbacks or the first Stalker volleys would have killed 2 of those 4 medivacs before fully unloading, it would have went the other way =/ Kinda like Parting got 5-8 free marines/marauders and 2 medivacs "for free" in Game #3 making that game seemingly one-sided as well =/ Oh well, thats PVT, 1 bad engagment and its over, still a nice series - just too short for a semfinals in the most important tournament in the world XD I don't understand this 'that's sc2' argument being applied to this game. Yes if you fuck up and let your opponent doom drop your base, you'll lose. His obs position wasn't as good as it could be. For example, he could have had 2 obs around the unpathable areas of the base and pretty much be able to see every possible drop area + obs can't be sniped. His obs was out of position (the first one), and the second one got there too late. Same thing happens in BW...people are just so good in that game now you don't see stupid mistakes like that. Flash almost had huge comeback vs Fantasy doomdropping his main, he was just behind already so it barely didn't work. MVP wasn't behind, his drop worked out enough to win. Parting lost game one for a huge anti-timing moveout and messing up his forcefields. Parting lost game two by forgetting how to respond to 1-1-1. MVP lost game three by miscontrolling his army. Parting lost game four by fucking up as I explained earlier. The only reason MVP won game 1,2,4 and four were by Parting messing up (game four being the most excusable imo). But when MVP consistently plays people who don't make stupid errors, he'll have to evolve his play, as will Toss when they play Terrans who can consistently engage lategame well. As people get better you won't see errors like this and so games will be longer, or at least I think and hope they will.

What makes me even happier is that protoss is doing so well in the lategame. So, I don't understand why Parting would even try to move out and be aggressive. Parting essentially played game3 as he should and won easily, why not do that all the time?
Well... happy he didn't do so!!!
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On May 10 2012 19:37 Fionn wrote: How do they not notice Squirtle's 9-0 PvP record? That's called bias. All SC2 casters have lots of it.
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On May 10 2012 19:36 Juliette wrote: Liquid'HerO vs ST_Squirtle
Set 1:
Red P7 HerO <Daybreak> Blue P1 Squirtle
Both players open identical, but Squirtle takes a quicker second gas at 18.
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On May 10 2012 19:36 ToD wrote:wow .... brutal.
i look at marineking getting 4 silvers and i just go... hais again
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Thanks Wax!
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Actually, even though I wanted Parting to win, I think that MVP's victory will be good for my enjoyment of the finals. Before it just would have been a PvP that I vaguely wanted Parting to win. NOW I can root against MVP, and be more emotionally invested.
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On May 10 2012 19:37 Waxangel wrote: in the interview room, Mvp says he didn't actually prepare too much specific stuff for this series, he just winged it, such as
SCV timing in game one was because he scanned PartinG and saw his troop count was unusually low
1/1/1 in game two wasn't planned, but he had a feeling it would be a good follow-up to a g1 win
also he said he was fully confident in beating PartinG in a 200/200 game if it went there, and that he thought he should have beat parting in G3 if he didn't make the bad mistake of letting his troops get cut in half.
Starsense of a champion
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On May 10 2012 19:33 Asvhald wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 19:19 ZeromuS wrote: Best part is, even with MVP in the finals, even if MVP wins the GSL, terran players will still complain about protoss That's what happens when a race is fundamentally overpowered for more than a year or a year and a half, especially in the game's early life. It gives birth to a special breed of fan who got so used to seeing that race win (good or bad players, but helped by their race choice) that he believes Terran should normally win by divine right. Everything else is "imbalance" for them. Terran have SEVEN fucking championships, Zerg has FIVE, and protoss have... *drumroll* TWO!!! but no matter, this is the natural order, this is what should happen, and if anything (i.e Protoss strong lategame) gets in the way, then they behave like the spoiled little princess who can't have her fourth dress made for yesterday. No matter they have the strongest early and midgame, strongest harrassment, strongest turtle, strongest scouting ability (hi scan), strongest drop play, etc... just no matter. It isn't enough for them, unless Terran wins everything. I congratulate MVP for his victory and I'm glad to see a person overcoming his problems, but let's be serious, MVP can be as good as he wants to be, but which other race would let him get away with so many gimmicks, mind-fucks, and such? If he was Z or P with the same wrist problems, he would have probably fallen in Ro16, IMHO. God, I'm so tired of these little Terran posting princesses.
Protoss crybabies.
I love seeing a champion regain his former self when everyone is doubting his skill.
Also fuck PvT balance problems for the quality of games this season, I think everyone can agree that T being strong early game and P being strong late-game is shoddy balance design, and as an Mvp fan, I am happy, but disappointed that I don't get to see the macro king himself.
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