• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:54
CEST 11:54
KST 18:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho1Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure3[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15
Community News
Code S RO8 Interviews - Group A Winners0Code S Season 1 - RO8 Group A Results (2025)0Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)21Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5
StarCraft 2
General
Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025) I hope balance council is prepping final balance Code S RO8 Interviews - Group A Winners How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports?
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO8 - Group B [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal A [ASL19] Semifinal B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Racial Distribution over MMR …
Navane
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 20330 users

[Code S] Semi-Final 2012 GSL Season 2 - Page 111

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 109 110 111 112 113 157 Next
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2201
On May 10 2012 19:36 FidoDido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:35 illumn wrote:
Whining is just too mainstream these days. So many people thinking their race is what's holding back their pro-gaming career.



haha this, and when they play vs their own race, they just call it a coinflip MU.


XD

"Dudes I would totally be a progamer Bonjwa if my race wasn't so weak"
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2202
Squirtle all the way UP
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2203
How do they not notice Squirtle's 9-0 PvP record?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2204
Getting incredibly hard to keep watching now. So nervous.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2205
On May 10 2012 19:35 illumn wrote:
Whining is just too mainstream these days. So many people thinking their race is what's holding back their pro-gaming career.


This, so much.
Every time I see rage infested balance whine I can't help it - all I see is low level leaguers trying to justify their slow or no progress towards "pro-gaming career".
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33208 Posts
May 10 2012 10:37 GMT
#2206
in the interview room, Mvp says he didn't actually prepare too much specific stuff for this series, he just winged it, such as

SCV timing in game one was because he scanned PartinG and saw his troop count was unusually low

1/1/1 in game two wasn't planned, but he had a feeling it would be a good follow-up to a g1 win

also he said he was fully confident in beating PartinG in a 200/200 game if it went there, and that he thought he should have beat parting in G3 if he didn't make the bad mistake of letting his troops get cut in half.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2207
Game 4 Parting had Templar and Stalkers in his main, no way he should have let all those medivacs drop down.
EG.DeMuslim --- EG.ThorZain --- TSL.Polt --- LGIMMvp --- Mill.fOrGG --- EG.Stephano --- EGiNcontroL --- EG.IdrA --- MarineKing.Prime --- SlayerS_MMA --- Liquid'Hero
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2208
time to play my drinking game,
"1 dt 1 shot"
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2209
Hero, go go go, Hero fighting !
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2210
On May 10 2012 19:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:34 CursivE wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:32 Pazuzu wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:31 Zealot Orgy wrote:
MVP in the finals is a shame to the GSL as a whole.

He had the most disappointing display of skill of all the 32 codeS players, and he made it to the finals thanks to a train of allins.

If STC does it, he's called theSTCheese and blamed by everyone, if MVP does it, "OH WELL ITS HIS WRISTS" "GAME GENIE OMFG BEST GOGO 4TH GSL" "OMG DAT PERFECT TIMING"


so much anger...he played standard in 3 games...


You missed his point. Out of the round of 32 players... Not this set in isolation.


People who seriously think he looked the worst out of all ro32 players are kidding themselves. Seriously, just think about it for a second.


That's fine, but he still didn't address the point and went off half cocked without reading.

MVP is clearly one of the best. But he did cheese more than usual this code s.
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2211
Wolf has a hair fetish, i am sure you'd have a chance Tasteless
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2212
On May 10 2012 19:28 eFonSG wrote:
It seems to me like people just straight up dont like protoss around here, either they hit early and are cheesy/2 base players using a style that takes no skill; Or they play a macro game, but instead its just considered a no skill autoloss for the opponent automatically. What great choices as a protoss player x.x


Noticed this as well. Terran and zerg players both hate on protoss a lot. I think it's because two influential players Idra and Demuslim are both really bad vP and spend all their time whining about it. I see so many people claiming that 'protoss is dominating the pro scene' when they haven't won a major tournament for months and haven't won a GSL for over a year.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6255 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2213
On May 10 2012 19:35 teamamerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:25 Talaris wrote:
One huge drop can win you games, yet people QQ about Protoss late game...

Thats SC2... if those feedbacks or the first Stalker volleys would have killed 2 of those 4 medivacs before fully unloading, it would have went the other way =/
Kinda like Parting got 5-8 free marines/marauders and 2 medivacs "for free" in Game #3 making that game seemingly one-sided as well =/

Oh well, thats PVT, 1 bad engagment and its over, still a nice series - just too short for a semfinals in the most important tournament in the world XD


I don't understand this 'that's sc2' argument being applied to this game. Yes if you fuck up and let your opponent doom drop your base, you'll lose. His obs position wasn't as good as it could be. For example, he could have had 2 obs around the unpathable areas of the base and pretty much be able to see every possible drop area + obs can't be sniped. His obs was out of position (the first one), and the second one got there too late.

Same thing happens in BW...people are just so good in that game now you don't see stupid mistakes like that. Flash almost had huge comeback vs Fantasy doomdropping his main, he was just behind already so it barely didn't work. MVP wasn't behind, his drop worked out enough to win.

Parting lost game one for a huge anti-timing moveout and messing up his forcefields.
Parting lost game two by forgetting how to respond to 1-1-1.
MVP lost game three by miscontrolling his army.
Parting lost game four by fucking up as I explained earlier.

The only reason MVP won game 1,2,4 and four were by Parting messing up (game four being the most excusable imo). But when MVP consistently plays people who don't make stupid errors, he'll have to evolve his play, as will Toss when they play Terrans who can consistently engage lategame well.

As people get better you won't see errors like this and so games will be longer, or at least I think and hope they will.



What makes me even happier is that protoss is doing so well in the lategame. So, I don't understand why Parting would even try to move out and be aggressive. Parting essentially played game3 as he should and won easily, why not do that all the time?

Well... happy he didn't do so!!!
Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2214
On May 10 2012 19:37 Fionn wrote:
How do they not notice Squirtle's 9-0 PvP record?

That's called bias. All SC2 casters have lots of it.
It ain't over till it's over
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2215
On May 10 2012 19:36 Juliette wrote:
Liquid'HerO vs ST_Squirtle

Set 1:

Red P7 HerO <Daybreak> Blue P1 Squirtle


Both players open identical, but Squirtle takes a quicker second gas at 18.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2216
On May 10 2012 19:36 ToD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:32 Darion wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:31 ejozl wrote:
Does anyone have a link to all the gsl first places?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_Starcraft_II_League



wow .... brutal.


i look at marineking getting 4 silvers and i just go... hais again
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2217
Thanks Wax!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2218
Actually, even though I wanted Parting to win, I think that MVP's victory will be good for my enjoyment of the finals. Before it just would have been a PvP that I vaguely wanted Parting to win. NOW I can root against MVP, and be more emotionally invested.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#2219
On May 10 2012 19:37 Waxangel wrote:
in the interview room, Mvp says he didn't actually prepare too much specific stuff for this series, he just winged it, such as

SCV timing in game one was because he scanned PartinG and saw his troop count was unusually low

1/1/1 in game two wasn't planned, but he had a feeling it would be a good follow-up to a g1 win

also he said he was fully confident in beating PartinG in a 200/200 game if it went there, and that he thought he should have beat parting in G3 if he didn't make the bad mistake of letting his troops get cut in half.



Starsense of a champion
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:39:19
May 10 2012 10:39 GMT
#2220
On May 10 2012 19:33 Asvhald wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:19 ZeromuS wrote:
Best part is, even with MVP in the finals, even if MVP wins the GSL, terran players will still complain about protoss


That's what happens when a race is fundamentally overpowered for more than a year or a year and a half, especially in the game's early life. It gives birth to a special breed of fan who got so used to seeing that race win (good or bad players, but helped by their race choice) that he believes Terran should normally win by divine right. Everything else is "imbalance" for them. Terran have SEVEN fucking championships, Zerg has FIVE, and protoss have... *drumroll* TWO!!! but no matter, this is the natural order, this is what should happen, and if anything (i.e Protoss strong lategame) gets in the way, then they behave like the spoiled little princess who can't have her fourth dress made for yesterday.

No matter they have the strongest early and midgame, strongest harrassment, strongest turtle, strongest scouting ability (hi scan), strongest drop play, etc... just no matter. It isn't enough for them, unless Terran wins everything.

I congratulate MVP for his victory and I'm glad to see a person overcoming his problems, but let's be serious, MVP can be as good as he wants to be, but which other race would let him get away with so many gimmicks, mind-fucks, and such? If he was Z or P with the same wrist problems, he would have probably fallen in Ro16, IMHO.

God, I'm so tired of these little Terran posting princesses.


Protoss crybabies.

I love seeing a champion regain his former self when everyone is doubting his skill.

Also fuck PvT balance problems for the quality of games this season, I think everyone can agree that T being strong early game and P being strong late-game is shoddy balance design, and as an Mvp fan, I am happy, but disappointed that I don't get to see the macro king himself.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
Prev 1 109 110 111 112 113 157 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL Code S
09:30
Group Stage 2 - Group B
Classic vs ReynorLIVE!
GuMiho vs Maru
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 258
SC2_NightMare 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 487
BeSt 298
PianO 253
Pusan 152
Dewaltoss 94
sSak 85
Leta 72
GoRush 51
ToSsGirL 46
JYJ41
[ Show more ]
Liquid`Ret 29
Sharp 27
Aegong 23
NaDa 16
Barracks 12
HiyA 8
Bale 3
Dota 2
XaKoH 574
XcaliburYe480
BananaSlamJamma356
League of Legends
JimRising 453
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2552
x6flipin227
Other Games
singsing1305
ceh9869
mouzStarbuck374
crisheroes260
ZerO(Twitch)1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick687
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv147
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 23
lovetv 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 83
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 21
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt614
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6m
OSC
3h 6m
RSL Revival
13h 6m
OSC
14h 6m
GSL Code S
23h 36m
herO vs TBD
TBD vs Cure
OSC
1d 14h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 17h
RSL Revival
2 days
SOOP
2 days
HeRoMaRinE vs Astrea
Online Event
2 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Percival vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Spirit
MaxPax vs Jumy
RSL Revival
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.