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PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
May 02 2012 13:42 GMT
#3841
Why are people playing with jackets on in their tournament matches? Are the booths too air conditioned so it will get cold or is it just to avoid overall coldness while playing?
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
May 02 2012 13:47 GMT
#3842
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 02 2012 13:50 GMT
#3843
would be awesome if MVP could win this and get back up to being the best Terran/player in the world...but sad nani lost
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
May 02 2012 13:51 GMT
#3844
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.


Haha yeah, well MKPs short time as widely accepted King of Terran might be over right now. But that hasn't to be a bad thing
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
May 02 2012 13:58 GMT
#3845
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.

I always cheered for MVP
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
May 02 2012 13:59 GMT
#3846
Me too. Other than Moon I hate every player who beats MVP.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 14:00 GMT
#3847
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.


Mvp has always kept his fans, and I don't think anyone is saying that Mvp is better than MKP and that MKP has fallen off.

Mvp is my favorite player but I would say MKP is the favorite in all MU at least until Mvp gets his wrists fixed. I am just glad that he is still able to play at a high level after all this time and considering his injury.
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
May 02 2012 14:01 GMT
#3848
On May 02 2012 19:22 JunkkaGom wrote:
All this rage..reminds me when Bronn killed Ser Vardis.
Lysa Aryn : You don't fight with honor!
Bronn : No. (pointing the hole where Vardis's corpse fell)He did


Baller. As. Fuck.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 14:02:40
May 02 2012 14:01 GMT
#3849
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.


Not from me. I was always the biggest Mvp fan, NEVER EVER MKP. Mvp is the smartest Terran so far.


On May 02 2012 23:00 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.


Mvp has always kept his fans, and I don't think anyone is saying that Mvp is better than MKP and that MKP has fallen off.

Mvp is my favorite player but I would say MKP is the favorite in all MU at least until Mvp gets his wrists fixed. I am just glad that he is still able to play at a high level after all this time and considering his injury.


I still think Mvp is smarter than MKP in every situation, so Mvp > MKP for me.
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37049 Posts
May 02 2012 14:09 GMT
#3850
On May 02 2012 21:19 KalWarkov wrote:
Why doesnt SeeKeR get his own icon btw :/

Well. That would be awesome. But it is entirely up to TL staff and if they feel like I've contributed enough. And I myself would honestly say I haven't contributed enough to deserve special treatment
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 14:14 GMT
#3851
On May 02 2012 23:09 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:19 KalWarkov wrote:
Why doesnt SeeKeR get his own icon btw :/

Well. That would be awesome. But it is entirely up to TL staff and if they feel like I've contributed enough. And I myself would honestly say I haven't contributed enough to deserve special treatment


I think you have, and I support the Seeker Icon Initiative!
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Shardz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States349 Posts
May 02 2012 14:14 GMT
#3852
If Mvp dismantles Parting with cheese, I wonder what will happen to this forum =O.
Oh Hi
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 02 2012 14:15 GMT
#3853
On May 02 2012 21:49 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:34 Otolia wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:14 zefreak wrote:
"I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished."

Did you guys cry when Leenock exploited Naniwa's predictable play at Providence as well?

Naniwa is nothing special. The reason why he has such a strong mid/late game is because he plays so greedy in the early game. If he didn't cut so many corners he wouldn't die to cheese but he also wouldn't be so dominating in the later game. Of course, you guys don't realize that because you have 0 understanding of the game.

You can punish a Nexus First build with something else than a 2 proxy rax. If you don't believe me, check Assembly replays for DieStar. MVP choose the easy way; and it saddens a lot of the foreign fans.

On May 02 2012 21:33 Yaki wrote:
After reading all the comments yesterday in the destiny drama thread and now in this one, I really am disgusted about this community, I thought it was just a minority but no, people are just so fucked up in their mind. That's just not how we're gonna get this thing growing. So much hipocrisy. Nobody would have said anything if it wasn't naniwa today.

You can go back to aAa if you wish, I've heard they are nice.

You're just responding childishly. You aren't sad because "MVP choose the easy way", you're just angry because naniwa got crushed for being so greedy and instead of accepting that you're just putting the blame on mvp who by the way owes you nothing.

I'm glad you are a mind-reader, friend.

I'm not mad, I'm not upset. I'm disappointed because I wanted to see an epic battle with a glorious winner.

And NaNiwa didn't play that greedy, it's not like he did 1Gate into 3 Nexuses like the now famous MKP 1Rax 3 CC build. He lost, badly even, and that shows he isn't on top of the world. But that doesn't mean MVP didn't choose to play shorter games. That was his plan, he said so in the interview.

In Iron Squid, Symbol did some very prepared build too against MKP but those were innovative and meticulously planned BO. A proxy 2Rax is just a random thing you throw at your opponent wishing he doesn't blind counter you, it's not a specific Bo for a specific opponent. I expect more of a player who was the best not so long ago; wrists issues or not.

That being said, PartinG is on his way to a title right now and it pleases me.
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
May 02 2012 14:17 GMT
#3854
On May 02 2012 22:58 pumpy145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 22:47 cozzE wrote:
I love how quickly jump back on the MVP bandwagon after his extensive time on the sidelines due to his wrist injury. Pretty sure I remember seeing Marineking hype all over the various SC2 sites.

I always cheered for MVP


I always cheer for him too, I even have "IMMvpFanboy" account on eu!
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 14:22:50
May 02 2012 14:21 GMT
#3855
On May 02 2012 23:15 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:49 Yaki wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:34 Otolia wrote:
On May 02 2012 21:14 zefreak wrote:
"I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished."

Did you guys cry when Leenock exploited Naniwa's predictable play at Providence as well?

Naniwa is nothing special. The reason why he has such a strong mid/late game is because he plays so greedy in the early game. If he didn't cut so many corners he wouldn't die to cheese but he also wouldn't be so dominating in the later game. Of course, you guys don't realize that because you have 0 understanding of the game.

You can punish a Nexus First build with something else than a 2 proxy rax. If you don't believe me, check Assembly replays for DieStar. MVP choose the easy way; and it saddens a lot of the foreign fans.

On May 02 2012 21:33 Yaki wrote:
After reading all the comments yesterday in the destiny drama thread and now in this one, I really am disgusted about this community, I thought it was just a minority but no, people are just so fucked up in their mind. That's just not how we're gonna get this thing growing. So much hipocrisy. Nobody would have said anything if it wasn't naniwa today.

You can go back to aAa if you wish, I've heard they are nice.

You're just responding childishly. You aren't sad because "MVP choose the easy way", you're just angry because naniwa got crushed for being so greedy and instead of accepting that you're just putting the blame on mvp who by the way owes you nothing.

I'm glad you are a mind-reader, friend.

I'm not mad, I'm not upset. I'm disappointed because I wanted to see an epic battle with a glorious winner.

And NaNiwa didn't play that greedy, it's not like he did 1Gate into 3 Nexuses like the now famous MKP 1Rax 3 CC build. He lost, badly even, and that shows he isn't on top of the world. But that doesn't mean MVP didn't choose to play shorter games. That was his plan, he said so in the interview.

In Iron Squid, Symbol did some very prepared build too against MKP but those were innovative and meticulously planned BO. A proxy 2Rax is just a random thing you throw at your opponent wishing he doesn't blind counter you, it's not a specific Bo for a specific opponent. I expect more of a player who was the best not so long ago; wrists issues or not.

That being said, PartinG is on his way to a title right now and it pleases me.


A proxy 2 rax on Daybreak is extremely EXTREMELY risky on Daybreak, not something random by Mvp.
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
May 02 2012 14:21 GMT
#3856
On May 02 2012 21:16 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 20:57 Eshra wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:51 KiNGxXx wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:44 GoSuChicken wrote:
Sad that Mvp wasnt able to beat nani in macro games... now all the naniwa fanboys will cry how Mvp sucks and hes not able to beat him in longer games

I don't care! Better player won, that's it!

Hope he will crush Parting, too.


Smarter, not better. I totally agree with what MVP did, he's there to win and thus, did exactly what he had to. But to me, it doesn't make him a better player.

You're delusional if you think naniwa is better than mvp. Smarter is better -.-


Ok dude, i never said that Naniwa is better than MVP. I said that the way MVP won doesn't make him a better player than his opponent. I'm not gonna enter a contest to find out who the best is between Naniwa and MVP. Pointless.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
May 02 2012 14:23 GMT
#3857
On May 02 2012 23:21 Eshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 21:16 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:57 Eshra wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:51 KiNGxXx wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:44 GoSuChicken wrote:
Sad that Mvp wasnt able to beat nani in macro games... now all the naniwa fanboys will cry how Mvp sucks and hes not able to beat him in longer games

I don't care! Better player won, that's it!

Hope he will crush Parting, too.


Smarter, not better. I totally agree with what MVP did, he's there to win and thus, did exactly what he had to. But to me, it doesn't make him a better player.

You're delusional if you think naniwa is better than mvp. Smarter is better -.-


Ok dude, i never said that Naniwa is better than MVP. I said that the way MVP won doesn't make him a better player than his opponent. I'm not gonna enter a contest to find out who the best is between Naniwa and MVP. Pointless.


Winning a BO5 (regardless of how you win) makes you the better player.
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
May 02 2012 14:24 GMT
#3858
Funny how people seemingly proclaim "MVP can't macro!" as if they just wiped out his 3x GSL runs from their memories. Reminds me of protoss players forgetting what MC did for their race.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 02 2012 14:24 GMT
#3859
On May 02 2012 22:42 PeZuY wrote:
Why are people playing with jackets on in their tournament matches? Are the booths too air conditioned so it will get cold or is it just to avoid overall coldness while playing?


If they are used to practicing with jackets on they will play tournament matches with jackets on.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
May 02 2012 14:25 GMT
#3860
On May 02 2012 20:07 MosART wrote:
Being creative is a con, most of the time.


Creative is a compliment given to someone who isn't consistent.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
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