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flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
May 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#3781
On May 02 2012 20:51 WallieP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 20:49 flowSthead wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:36 Hall0wed wrote:
Also I like that MVP was able to stomp so hard even after being quite sick in China a few days earlier, losing to Moon in that tournament.


What is the tournament in China? I can't find it on Liquipedia.

Found that for you
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NVIDIA_Gaming_Festival_2012


Thank you very much ^_^
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
May 02 2012 11:56 GMT
#3782
Based MVP keeping my passion alive, i was so unsure about his chances i left early for some outside business. Will catch the vods and enjoy them greatly.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
May 02 2012 11:57 GMT
#3783
On May 02 2012 20:51 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 20:44 GoSuChicken wrote:
Sad that Mvp wasnt able to beat nani in macro games... now all the naniwa fanboys will cry how Mvp sucks and hes not able to beat him in longer games

I don't care! Better player won, that's it!

Hope he will crush Parting, too.


Smarter, not better. I totally agree with what MVP did, he's there to win and thus, did exactly what he had to. But to me, it doesn't make him a better player.
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
May 02 2012 11:57 GMT
#3784
On May 02 2012 20:39 An2quamaraN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 19:22 JunkkaGom wrote:
All this rage..reminds me when Bronn killed Ser Vardis.
Lysa Aryn : You don't fight with honor!
Bronn : No. (pointing the hole where Vardis's corpse fell)He did


That's damn true.

So MvP plays for money only, doesn't care for his audience and doesn't shun from lies and tricks. Kk, basically right person to be fan of


you're words are actually true for Naniwa
Try again, fail better.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
May 02 2012 11:57 GMT
#3785
On May 02 2012 20:23 mango_destroyer wrote:
woot MVP!! so gosu

MVP Interview:
You relied heavily on strategy not once but twice. Was it because of your wrist? Some other problem?

I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished. Naniwa is a player who has a risky early game and gets a good economy. Those strategies were a response to that.


Imagine a scenario where MVP lost to Naniwa in 3 games like those. Post game interview (if happened):

Question: You relied heavily on strategy not once but twice. Was it because of your wrist? Some other problem?
MVP: Well you know, I've been having problems practicing because of my wrist injury, so I could not play macro games as I would be in a disadvantage.


Of course, if you win, you say that you predicted greedy play and countered it. If someone can check it, for sure Bit didn't say he did what he did because he is a bad player compared to everyone else, but because he was outsmarting other players XD
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2012 11:59 GMT
#3786
On May 02 2012 20:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow looks like Oz got stomped. Was it as one-sided as the results show?

Did Naniwa get rolled? Were the games close? I know he was practicing his heart out; was MVP just playing like his old self again?


Well, Parting vs Oz was onesided indeed. Really weird games.

MVP just handled the situations better and set them up perfectly. Not to say that the games were especially beautiful.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ImperialTea
Profile Joined June 2011
France187 Posts
May 02 2012 11:59 GMT
#3787
Cheese or not, a win is a win. If you lose a Bo5 to all ins, it means you weren't prepared/your builds and your mentality were too easy to exploit, and you're not good enough of a player. Notice how Leenock beat Naniwa the same way at MLG Providence? Gratz to MVP.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:00:46
May 02 2012 12:00 GMT
#3788
On May 02 2012 20:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow looks like Oz got stomped. Was it as one-sided as the results show?

Did Naniwa get rolled? Were the games close? I know he was practicing his heart out; was MVP just playing like his old self again?


There are live reports if you want to know how each of the games went.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
May 02 2012 12:02 GMT
#3789
Can't wait for parting to DESTROY MVP in the RO4. It's going to be glorious.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
May 02 2012 12:05 GMT
#3790
On May 02 2012 21:02 Audemed wrote:
Can't wait for parting to DESTROY MVP in the RO4. It's going to be glorious.


Cannot be worse than today
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
May 02 2012 12:07 GMT
#3791
The difference between if NaNiwa won with cheese against Mvp is that Mvp is known and has proven he is the very best when it comes to macro mechanics and late-game pushes, his late-game stats echo that when they throw it up on the GOM cast.

Mvp cheesing just to me signifies that he is a completely well-rounded player, who is unpredictable, it also might indicate that he doesn't want to play long games because of his wrists, but the fact is Mvp is and always has been a better player than NaNiwa.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 02 2012 12:14 GMT
#3792
"I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished."

Did you guys cry when Leenock exploited Naniwa's predictable play at Providence as well?

Naniwa is nothing special. The reason why he has such a strong mid/late game is because he plays so greedy in the early game. If he didn't cut so many corners he wouldn't die to cheese but he also wouldn't be so dominating in the later game. Of course, you guys don't realize that because you have 0 understanding of the game.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Flexis
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden235 Posts
May 02 2012 12:15 GMT
#3793
there is no way parting in his current state will lose to the mvp of today
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
May 02 2012 12:15 GMT
#3794
On May 02 2012 21:14 zefreak wrote:
"I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished."

Did you guys cry when Leenock exploited Naniwa's predictable play at Providence as well?

Naniwa is nothing special. The reason why he has such a strong mid/late game is because he plays so greedy in the early game. If he didn't cut so many corners he wouldn't die to cheese but he also wouldn't be so dominating in the later game. Of course, you guys don't realize that because you have 0 understanding of the game.

This! +1
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 02 2012 12:16 GMT
#3795
On May 02 2012 20:57 Eshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 20:51 KiNGxXx wrote:
On May 02 2012 20:44 GoSuChicken wrote:
Sad that Mvp wasnt able to beat nani in macro games... now all the naniwa fanboys will cry how Mvp sucks and hes not able to beat him in longer games

I don't care! Better player won, that's it!

Hope he will crush Parting, too.


Smarter, not better. I totally agree with what MVP did, he's there to win and thus, did exactly what he had to. But to me, it doesn't make him a better player.

You're delusional if you think naniwa is better than mvp. Smarter is better -.-
Yhamm is the god of predictions
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:18:33
May 02 2012 12:16 GMT
#3796
Naniwa fans are so funny.

They support a player who says he only cares about winning but when Mvp wins with cheese builds they complain about him not showing good games.

I'm sure when Naniwa did the 2 gate proxy vs Nestea at MLG Arena you were all saying Nani is a genius for predicting and punishing Nestea's greedy hatch first.
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 12:18:00
May 02 2012 12:17 GMT
#3797
damn PartinG looking serious this season.

MVP will find a much tougher challenge in him than against the overrated Swede.

Tomorrow is Team Liquids turn, and I think at least HerO should advance there.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 02 2012 12:19 GMT
#3798
Why doesnt SeeKeR get his own icon btw :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
May 02 2012 12:21 GMT
#3799
MVP for 4th gsl tittle called it first! : )
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
May 02 2012 12:22 GMT
#3800
On May 02 2012 21:14 zefreak wrote:
"I am of the opinion that you should be punished for risky play. If you get greedy with me, you will get punished."

Did you guys cry when Leenock exploited Naniwa's predictable play at Providence as well?

Naniwa is nothing special. The reason why he has such a strong mid/late game is because he plays so greedy in the early game. If he didn't cut so many corners he wouldn't die to cheese but he also wouldn't be so dominating in the later game. Of course, you guys don't realize that because you have 0 understanding of the game.

Nailed it. Kids, please appreciate how beautiful the game is, instead of just blindly hating on dudes. Play greedy, get punished. Play safe, then you have to hope your opponent isn't playing greedy.

Game of Drones / Game of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Macro Macro Macro for a baseline advantage, then duel it out in other aspects like strategy + micro.
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