EPTOn May 08 2012 06:03 vertigo1 wrote:
idra should do the honourable thing and retire
idra should do the honourable thing and retire
Agreed.
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
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Avicularia
540 Posts
On May 08 2012 06:59 naux wrote: i really think idra should change races to terran.. his playstyle is just more suitable for terran.. turtle style with macro i know people are gonna say its to late.. well HotS is coming out and there is his chance to change Well, but the thing is that nowadays, terrans need to be very aggressive at the early and mid game, 'cos lategame is rly hard. The truth is, that any race Idra will play, will always have "trash units"  | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On May 08 2012 07:28 Avicularia wrote: Well, but the thing is that nowadays, terrans need to be very aggressive at the early and mid game, 'cos lategame is rly hard. The truth is, that any race Idra will play, will always have "trash units" i dont think so i think idrA can turtle 3 cc easily you dont really need ot be that aggressive with terran i dont know i just think idrA needs to switch to terran | ||
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
On May 08 2012 07:38 naux wrote: i dont think so i think idrA can turtle 3 cc easily you dont really need ot be that aggressive with terran i dont know i just think idrA needs to switch to terran if you don't understand why T needs to play aggro early/mid, you should not be offering sc2 advice ever. in any case it looks like some of the games were at least worth watching. maybe idra can just step up his engagement decisions. gratz morrow! | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On May 08 2012 07:28 Avicularia wrote: Well, but the thing is that nowadays, terrans need to be very aggressive at the early and mid game, 'cos lategame is rly hard. The truth is, that any race Idra will play, will always have "trash units" IdrA did Mutas for so long. Being aggressive shouldn't be to much of a problem. I think his mindset keeps him from practising the right way and from winning because of that. It's not that he doesn't have the potential to be one of the best foreigners. Besides that I think he won't switch race because he is to proud. From what I know it was the same in BW where he hated Protoss for being to easy but never played P himself. If the EG house doesn't manage to bring him back on track I don't think it's worth it. | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On May 08 2012 07:47 heartlxp wrote: if you don't understand why T needs to play aggro early/mid, you should not be offering sc2 advice ever. in any case it looks like some of the games were at least worth watching. maybe idra can just step up his engagement decisions. gratz morrow! i probably understand starcraft 2 more in my pinky then u. many terrans play solid macro passive builds not every terran has to be the same jesus christ | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On May 08 2012 09:55 naux wrote: i probably understand starcraft 2 more in my pinky then u. many terrans play solid macro passive builds not every terran has to be the same jesus christ Any terran who does absolutely no aggression in the early/mid game is a bad terran, end of story. They don't need to, in fact most terran's shouldn't, over commit in these aggression, but if a terran sits and macros, they will get raped 8/10 times. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 08 2012 13:13 Shinta) wrote: Any terran who does absolutely no aggression in the early/mid game is a bad terran, end of story. They don't need to, in fact most terran's shouldn't, over commit in these aggression, but if a terran sits and macros, they will get raped 8/10 times. you build 4 hellions and chill in front of your opponents base, while you get a third before your opponent in TvZ. Then mix in a runby or a allin based upon your hellions, every 10th game instead of the third. That's like every good Terran plays it. What aggression? Scanning and burning defenseless creep tumors? I'm sorry, by those means, Protoss who chill with Stalkers in front of Terrans and Zerg who chill with Zerglings all around the place are just as aggressive. | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
On May 06 2012 16:03 polyphonyEX wrote: morrow 4-0 turns out even my supposed flawless prediction was wrong... it's actually morrow 5-0! | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On May 08 2012 09:29 CruelZeratul wrote: If the EG house doesn't manage to bring him back on track I don't think it's worth it. as long as he brings in the dough he will never retire. Actually I am curious about his mental state, it must be pretty tough to lose so frequently and so consistently while there are an entire legion of fans who only watch for that. | ||
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_Ice_
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mememolly
4765 Posts
why should he retire? he is still one of the best foreigners, that might not be saying a lot but it is still true, plus he makes good money, who else can get 10k stream viewers so easily? stephano and MKP with a webcam but no one else - 98% of foreigners have the same results he has had at recent major tourneys, should they retire also? | ||
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Sergio1992
Italy522 Posts
On May 08 2012 18:45 mememolly wrote: why should he retire? he is still one of the best foreigners, that might not be saying a lot but it is still true, plus he makes good money, who else can get 10k stream viewers so easily? stephano and MKP with a webcam but no one else - 98% of foreigners have the same results he has had at recent major tourneys, should they retire also? I don't think he should retire, I mean, he can do whatever he wants. If he can get a living off streaming I would advise him to continue doing so. People (and in these people there is also me) like to watch Idra just because of his rage, not because he is unbelievable good... If you wish to see innovative play you go watch Stephano, not Idra. Also, there are always 10k people willing to watch idra, just because he has a huge fanbase from the beta, where he was really a good player. Everytime I connect on twitch.tv to watch idra it happens just because I wish to see idra's face when he ragequits or when he start talking about how much futile starcraft 2 is... | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
The youtube vids are free loaded up 3 days after the EU rebroadcast, but now it seems I get erorrs. 'This video is private' | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
Disagree. Nothing wrong with being 4th in your group. And if Idra beats Thorzain (who is sucking really bad right now) Idra will be 3rd in his group He is still very much in it. Season isn't close to being over. But yes he is playing badly. He used to be #1 GM in NA without any trouble now he has a Rank1 in Masters. | ||
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yoigen
Germany369 Posts
On May 09 2012 01:23 SayGen wrote: Disagree. Nothing wrong with being 4th in your group. And if Idra beats Thorzain (who is sucking really bad right now) Idra will be 3rd in his group He is still very much in it. Season isn't close to being over. But yes he is playing badly. He used to be #1 GM in NA without any trouble now he has a Rank1 in Masters. What? Thorzain just won the most recent Dreamhack. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 09 2012 01:23 SayGen wrote: Disagree. Nothing wrong with being 4th in your group. And if Idra beats Thorzain (who is sucking really bad right now) Idra will be 3rd in his group He is still very much in it. Season isn't close to being over. But yes he is playing badly. He used to be #1 GM in NA without any trouble now he has a Rank1 in Masters. ThorZaiN sucking really bad? Did I miss smth.? He won DH, MSI-Cup and E-sport SM Qualifier the last month and is a major contender for being top-3-foreigner. About Idra: the problem is, that he is 4th in his group because of a walkover and Cruncher. I doubt, he can hold that place, although he should beat Catz and maybe SeleCT, I do not see see him win against Ret, ThorZaiN or Lowely. Retirering might be the wrong choice though, an Idra in perfect shape is a threat to everyone, but someone really needs him to get there. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
Still played well vs morrow | ||
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
On May 08 2012 18:45 mememolly wrote: why should he retire? he is still one of the best foreigners, that might not be saying a lot but it is still true, plus he makes good money, who else can get 10k stream viewers so easily? stephano and MKP with a webcam but no one else - 98% of foreigners have the same results he has had at recent major tourneys, should they retire also? Do you know nothing about opportunity cost? Idra will be cleaning my dishes 10 years from now. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On May 09 2012 06:28 Xoronius wrote: ThorZaiN sucking really bad? Did I miss smth.? He won DH, MSI-Cup and E-sport SM Qualifier the last month and is a major contender for being top-3-foreigner. ThorZaIN's obviously pouring in the results lately and is a top 3 foreigner for sure, I guess because he sits 1-3 in his NASL group he sucks, according to that poster, which is obviously not the case. | ||
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