On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's
I think the colossi wrecked the DPS of your broods by killing all the broodlings. Not sure what to do about that, but infestors do a lot of damage to stalkers with fungals - they're not there just to hold the stalkers from blinking.
Titan's colossi heavy late game play is ingenious in a way - forget motherships, archons, carriers and all that clutch jazz. Straight up colossi to kill brood lings, HTs to feedback infestors, and stalkers to kill the brood lords after the ground forces and broodlings are dead. Econ efficient and a lot faster timing.
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's
True :D i can confirm, mass blink stalker is actually quite good vs broodlords and you can never fungal all of them so most of the time more than half of their army is under your broodlords and broodlords are weak to target fire. Losing most of your broodlords is much more painful that losing stalkers for protoss. You probably need more support army like -3/4 broodlords +30 lings or so. In addition your army isn't really mobile.
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote: I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.
well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X
at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote: I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.
well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X
at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game
Don't be downhearted. It was pretty close. I have been very impressed with your form recently. Stephano, Nerchio and yourself are the best 3 European zerg currently. I think you can do very well at the Red Bull tourney next month.
I think you should be more patient, have confidence in your army comp (Spine crawler wall, broodlords and infestors). It looked pretty painful, you kept losing your broodlords because you didn't have enough support, made me very sad, it just seemed like you wanted to rush it too much. I'm worse than you though, I may be way off Gogo Ret fighting! Huge grats to Titan, very strong and underestimated protoss!
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote: I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.
well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X
at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game
Don't you worry man, you are awesome. I hope you win the next tourney you play :D
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote: I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.
well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X
at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game
How difficult would it be to incorporate ultralisks into the classic zerg late-game composition? SlayerSYuGiOh used to rush to 4 base infestor/broodlord/ultralisk behind mass spines, and while protosses eventually learned to expand faster they could never deal with that army in a direct fight.
poor lucifron had to play DRG ad DH and today stephano :/ hard to show that he is actualy realy good when he has to play the tournament winner in the first round :D
EPT
I hope you win the next tourney you play :D
