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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:11:43
April 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#201
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote:
i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's


I think the colossi wrecked the DPS of your broods by killing all the broodlings. Not sure what to do about that, but infestors do a lot of damage to stalkers with fungals - they're not there just to hold the stalkers from blinking.

Titan's colossi heavy late game play is ingenious in a way - forget motherships, archons, carriers and all that clutch jazz. Straight up colossi to kill brood lings, HTs to feedback infestors, and stalkers to kill the brood lords after the ground forces and broodlings are dead. Econ efficient and a lot faster timing.
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#202
On April 30 2012 03:05 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote:
i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's

True :D i can confirm, mass blink stalker is actually quite good vs broodlords and you can never fungal all of them so most of the time more than half of their army is under your broodlords and broodlords are weak to target fire. Losing most of your broodlords is much more painful that losing stalkers for protoss. You probably need more support army like -3/4 broodlords +30 lings or so. In addition your army isn't really mobile.


Whats your bet on Luci vs Stephano??
Hello friends:)
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4540 Posts
April 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#203
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote:
I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.


well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X

at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#204
paella?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#205
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote:
I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.


well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X

at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game


Don't be downhearted. It was pretty close. I have been very impressed with your form recently. Stephano, Nerchio and yourself are the best 3 European zerg currently. I think you can do very well at the Red Bull tourney next month.
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:15:27
April 29 2012 18:14 GMT
#206
I think you should be more patient, have confidence in your army comp (Spine crawler wall, broodlords and infestors).
It looked pretty painful, you kept losing your broodlords because you didn't have enough support, made me very sad, it just seemed like you wanted to rush it too much. I'm worse than you though, I may be way off
Gogo Ret fighting!
Huge grats to Titan, very strong and underestimated protoss!
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SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
April 29 2012 18:15 GMT
#207
On April 30 2012 03:12 sixfour wrote:
paella?


There are more things in spain other than paella and sangria ~~
Trance music makes the fairys dance
SeriouR
Profile Joined November 2010
Spain622 Posts
April 29 2012 18:17 GMT
#208
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote:
I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.


well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X

at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game


Don't you worry man, you are awesome. I hope you win the next tourney you play :D
Trance music makes the fairys dance
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 29 2012 18:22 GMT
#209
I wonder when the nuking will start
I have no quote!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 29 2012 18:22 GMT
#210
HERO TANK
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 29 2012 18:23 GMT
#211
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote:
I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates.


well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X

at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game


How difficult would it be to incorporate ultralisks into the classic zerg late-game composition? SlayerSYuGiOh used to rush to 4 base infestor/broodlord/ultralisk behind mass spines, and while protosses eventually learned to expand faster they could never deal with that army in a direct fight.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 18:23 GMT
#212
ugh, lucifron looks so bad when playing with stephano. =(
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
April 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#213
sick play by stephano
keep it deep! @zulison
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
April 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#214
stephano is just sick!
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
April 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#215
Stephano dealt with drops extremely well in that game.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
April 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#216
Stephano outclassed Lucifron, imo.
Muffel
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany137 Posts
April 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#217
poor lucifron
had to play DRG ad DH and today stephano :/ hard to show that he is actualy realy good when he has to play the tournament winner in the first round :D
Cox:"I suppose I could riff a list of things that I care as little about as our last week together. Lemme see, uhh [...] Oh! And Hugh Jackman." J.D.: Hugh Jackman's Wolverine! How dare he.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 29 2012 18:28 GMT
#218
On April 30 2012 03:27 revel8 wrote:
Stephano dealt with drops extremely well in that game.


yeah, kind of hard counters someone known for his great drop micro
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
rahji
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany63 Posts
April 29 2012 18:28 GMT
#219
stephano seemed invincible this game, none of lucifron's drops made any damage
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
April 29 2012 18:28 GMT
#220
On April 30 2012 03:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
ugh, lucifron looks so bad when playing with stephano. =(

I really dont think LucifroN looked bad there at all, just Stephano looking massively too powerful
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