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Titan vs Ret Best of 5 Semi Finals
Best of 7 Final
$1000 Winner takes all
Need I say more?
The GD Studio - The Arena
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
Stephano vs Lucifron Titan vs Ret Best of 5 Semi Finals Best of 7 Final $1000 Winner takes all Need I say more? | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
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yoigen
Germany369 Posts
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:08 yoigen wrote: Please put some more effort in your op. You kidding right? Poster says it all | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Yeah poster is enough ^^. Only you casting or will 2gd/Semmler/TB join you?  | ||
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dragonborn
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sick sick sick match. | ||
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Xaerax
Australia3 Posts
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
kid is back and kid is good | ||
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Zwerver
Netherlands104 Posts
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
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kju
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Sabre
United Kingdom1086 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Mijati
United Kingdom44 Posts
Keep up the great work guys. | ||
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yoigen
Germany369 Posts
Gotcha. + Show Spoiler + 8D | ||
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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expellist
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
STEPHANO FIGHTING! | ||
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TheGDStudio
Sweden12 Posts
Just because Apollo is a bad OP I had to add this in. | ||
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Arvediu
Spain69 Posts
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Gorg
Germany261 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Well not bad. I don't think either of the challenger have a shot offline but online it's different. We'll see good games anyway. | ||
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Ireniicus
United Kingdom374 Posts
of course he is dead now but that moot | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
Oh, boy, well, there goes my sunday evening. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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TemujinGK
United States483 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:30 TheGDStudio wrote: Casters: dApollo & Semmler Just because Apollo is a bad OP I had to add this in. so real. | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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Jongl0
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Germany63 Posts
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hwatti
Finland136 Posts
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m0ck
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Fatcamp
Sweden1 Post
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lleberg
Sweden19 Posts
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phillyd
United Kingdom61 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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United Kingdom94 Posts
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Floobie
England296 Posts
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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Theovide
Sweden914 Posts
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:26 Windwaker wrote: yes will the sack of shit cast?? User was temp banned for this post. why is he banned? that wasnt an insult , just an "insider" :D | ||
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shaippen
Sweden88 Posts
On April 29 2012 03:14 DailYLeet wrote: why is he banned? that wasnt an insult , just an "insider" :D Yeah, he shouldn't have been banned, though it's a bit unnecessary to write something like that. I hope a mode can revoke the ban though. | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6255 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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zomgE
498 Posts
On April 29 2012 03:44 Azzur wrote: Interesting tournament - however, I question the wisdom to just having random showmatch tournaments with invites - how does this help foster new talent? theres plenty of opportunity for new players. | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On April 29 2012 03:14 DailYLeet wrote: why is he banned? that wasnt an insult , just an "insider" :D Maybe the mod wasn't aware of the joke. :S | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
On April 29 2012 02:46 lleberg wrote: No TLO?! How is he supposed to get rid of that beard now? they gave him the chance to 1v1 incontrol and apolo for 1k :p His team manager wasn't online on skype at that time so he refused for the moment (: | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:26 Windwaker wrote: Hey mods, this is an internal joke of 2GD stream, please unban this guy. One of the casters called another "sack of shit" while talking to a girl who hung up the phone, possibly thinking he said it to her. There have been memes and tons of references and it's all cool.yes will the sack of shit cast?? User was temp banned for this post. VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/315941171 @ 1:41:50 | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
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Tuthur
France985 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:26 Windwaker wrote: yes will the sack of shit cast?? User was temp banned for this post. Reason: Don't caster bash. Nice moderation, totally missing the joke. | ||
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samw
England443 Posts
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Ranir
413 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:26 Windwaker wrote: yes will the sack of shit cast?? User was temp banned for this post. Sick banning reason, totally missing the new meme, here's the link http://i.imgur.com/td3zQ.jpg. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Natespank
Canada449 Posts
<3 | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
On April 29 2012 05:51 Ranir wrote: Sick banning reason, totally missing the new meme, here's the link http://i.imgur.com/td3zQ.jpg. Posts that only reference a meme are not welcome on TL either... Not to mention that he used the meme poorly. | ||
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Zheega
Slovenia180 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On April 29 2012 07:34 xtfftc wrote: Posts that only reference a meme are not welcome on TL either... Not to mention that he used the meme poorly. Everyone who talks about grack should be permabanned | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Is this going to be a one-off event for GD Studio, or is this going to be a regular or occuring thing? | ||
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TheGDStudio
Sweden12 Posts
On April 29 2012 08:55 revel8 wrote: Wow, this looks like a really cool mini-tournament. A great set of players and Apollo to cast them! Looking forward to it. Is this going to be a one-off event for GD Studio, or is this going to be a regular or occuring thing? We run 4 tournaments a month, every Sunday, on "The Arena" series for Dota2, QuakeLive, BloodlineChampions and Starcraft 2. | ||
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Cejotas
Spain88 Posts
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Youtakenocandle
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
i dont have anything against the casters, i really like semmler and apollo.(was just an insider) maybe LucifroN can suprise us this tournament | ||
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LorCHsc2
Spain103 Posts
g0g0 Luci!!! | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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scsnow
Slovenia515 Posts
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On April 29 2012 01:26 Windwaker wrote: yes will the sack of shit cast?? User was temp banned for this post. rofl can't believe this guy got banned mod must not have seen the gd studio episode he was referring to | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On April 29 2012 20:27 -orb- wrote: rofl can't believe this guy got banned mod must not have seen the gd studio episode he was referring to That's like saying "mod must not have seen the orb replay he was referring to" when someone gets banned for calling someone a disgusting n***er. Referring to someone else using foul, condescending language is not an excuse to doing so yourself. OT: this tournament will be sick! I'm so happy with the invites in TITAN and Lucifron, two really great up and comers. Let's see if they can take out the heavy favorites | ||
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Youtakenocandle
543 Posts
On April 29 2012 20:27 -orb- wrote: rofl can't believe this guy got banned mod must not have seen the gd studio episode he was referring to Not always a fan of the mods here, but you can't expect all mods to know all inside jokes. | ||
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Frostime
Spain10 Posts
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Kotara
Poland27 Posts
On April 29 2012 20:39 Choboo wrote: That's like saying "mod must not have seen the orb replay he was referring to" when someone gets banned for calling someone a disgusting n***er. Referring to someone else using foul, condescending language is not an excuse to doing so yourself. OT: this tournament will be sick! I'm so happy with the invites in TITAN and Lucifron, two really great up and comers. Let's see if they can take out the heavy favorites You are comparing two different situations. Orb is right, this Windwaker shouldnt be banned. | ||
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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Bumblebee
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LorCHsc2
Spain103 Posts
What do you think could happend when he play at 100% sc2? Meaby the best terran in Europe? or he's already? | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On April 29 2012 22:03 LorCHsc2 wrote: We want to see LucifroN making a great job in this tournament... he's back and he's strong!! What do you think could happend when he play at 100% sc2? Meaby the best terran in Europe? or he's already? LucifroN is in masters at the moment, so he obviously isn't laddering _that_ much, despite what the wc3 forums are saying Also, Ret just played him while he was streaming, it wasn't pretty I like LucifroN, I watched him play WC3 many times, but he's not quite there yet I think - I think its almost a guaranteed Ret vs. Stephano finals | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On April 29 2012 22:15 ELA wrote: LucifroN is in masters at the moment, so he obviously isn't laddering _that_ much, despite what the wc3 forums are saying Also, Ret just played him while he was streaming, it wasn't pretty I like LucifroN, I watched him play WC3 many times, but he's not quite there yet I think - I think its almost a guaranteed Ret vs. Stephano finals What are you talking about he is rank 2 GM, and is very good even Kas said he is one of the best terrans. | ||
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archonOOid
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LorCHsc2
Spain103 Posts
On April 29 2012 22:15 ELA wrote: LucifroN is in masters at the moment, so he obviously isn't laddering _that_ much, despite what the wc3 forums are saying Also, Ret just played him while he was streaming, it wasn't pretty I like LucifroN, I watched him play WC3 many times, but he's not quite there yet I think - I think its almost a guaranteed Ret vs. Stephano finals Im sorry but you are trully mistaked. Lucifron is Rank #2 in GM Europe... so hi has a REAL chance to win ^^ | ||
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Lorch
Germany3669 Posts
Also lol at thinking that his ladder rank has anything to do with his chances of winning... | ||
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Benjamin99
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
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lambda-
Germany147 Posts
On April 29 2012 07:43 Zheega wrote: Why no TLO? The guy needs some beard-points... Probabily because he is moving from Sweden to Germany this weekend if I'm not mistaken. | ||
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On April 30 2012 00:41 ZeitgeisT wrote: Probabily because he is moving from Sweden to Germany this weekend if I'm not mistaken. There was talk of a showmatch with him. But yeah he is moving today or he has just moved. | ||
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peacenl
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
On April 30 2012 00:56 peacenl wrote: Stephano was beaten a few days ago by Ret during his streaming. I think Stephano said something like I haven't played an entire week. He was on a skiing holiday last week. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
His TvZ is maybe the best in Europe and Stephano has not been in top form since his vacation. | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:03 Redox wrote: I have a feeling Lucifron will beat Stephano. His TvZ is maybe the best in Europe and Stephano has not been in top form since his vacation. peak lucifron is so frickin' good, but stephano is stephano, idk. that said, it's a short series so who knows | ||
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Funkydonky
950 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:03 Redox wrote: I have a feeling Lucifron will beat Stephano. His TvZ is maybe the best in Europe and Stephano has not been in top form since his vacation. doubt it, they played maybe 8 practice games in last week, stephano won all of them | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:12 Azarkon wrote: Where's the stream? :| http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/TheGDStudio | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Edit: levan Polkka | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
I think Stephano 3-1 or 3-2 as LucifroN still has time to improve and Stephano is still far and away the sickest player in Europe. Ret to beat Titan 3-1 then a 4-1 for Stephano over Ret in the finals | ||
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wraithy
Finland13 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:16 Hemula wrote: It's something-polka, right? Edit: Levan Polkka Ievan polkka | ||
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Ph4ZeD
United Kingdom753 Posts
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:17 Ph4ZeD wrote: Are these games played live? Yeah they are. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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Daray
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User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:27 Daray wrote: Sack of shit casting aswell :f Someone just got banned for saying that. Be careful... | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:28 Hemula wrote: Someone just got banned for saying that. Be careful... So be it. mods not getting the joke :/ | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
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ThePowerHour
United States834 Posts
Now back to droning hard, Titan is scared and gets a 2nd cannon. | ||
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Daray
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ThePowerHour
United States834 Posts
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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ThePowerHour
United States834 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:42 theBALLS wrote: Isn't stephano's match supposed to be first? sorry just joined the stream. Can anyone enlighten me? Stephano was playing in the Millenium vs Absolute Legends match, so they moved his match to the 2nd one. Red at hive tech, making spines to defend against double robo colossus... loses his 4th, but broodlords on the way. Ret floats his broodlords to Titan's natural with only lings for support and loses his army! | ||
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United States3810 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Baseic
Netherlands310 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Thezzphai
Germany1145 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 30 2012 01:44 ThePowerHour wrote: Stephano was playing in the Millenium vs Absolute Legends match, so they moved his match to the 2nd one. Red at hive tech, making spines to defend against double robo colossus... loses his 4th, but broodlords on the way. Ret floats his broodlords to Titan's natural with only lings for support and loses his army! He was done with the Millennium vs. AL match before the tournament began ... They were talking about a tournament finals that he had to go to, wonder which one? | ||
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Benjamin99
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Baseic
Netherlands310 Posts
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ArnaudF
France993 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:03 ArnaudF wrote: Semmler's name is Auguste Masonnat, that sounds French. Does he have French roots? (I know he speaks french fluently) Born somewhere in California from a french father. Probably has a double nationality. | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:03 ArnaudF wrote: Semmler's name is Auguste Masonnat, that sounds French. Does he have French roots? (I know he speaks french fluently) Hes french. | ||
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France993 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7197 Posts
Problem is most Zergs I play dronescout and kill with zerglings. :D | ||
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Benjamin99
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[RS]Fuchs
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edit: is there any other sound setting except for the "normal" sound thing (speaker icon) and the volume bar of the embadded player? | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:28 [RS]Fuchs wrote: Is the sound volume very low for everybody or just me? Everything is on full throttle but the sound volume is so low It seems reasonable to me. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Everything is ok for me too. | ||
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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mememolly
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tofubeans
United States794 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:34 mememolly wrote: are these games being played live? yea | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
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mememolly
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
He is a good caster, but why is he whining so much all the time? I always feel like I have to give him a tissue everytime a unit dies. I dont like starcraft to be casted like some greek drama when I just want to be entertained. | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:36 mememolly wrote: really glad he didn't pick entombed valley, although I'm undecided if cloud is a good map or not It's not that good zvp | ||
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mememolly
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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mememolly
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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alistarnl
Netherlands144 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:54 SeriouR wrote: Titan doesn't understand pvz very well. given that he seems to be doing ok | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
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x2mirko
Germany245 Posts
thrown this game away sooooo hard | ||
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United States2800 Posts
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Nick3
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Choboo
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United Kingdom876 Posts
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
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Netherlands144 Posts
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Germany25649 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
by that, i guess there's been maybe zero upsets ever | ||
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Ireland318 Posts
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mememolly
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Netherlands15767 Posts
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Maddhatter1
United States51 Posts
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Youtakenocandle
543 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:59 Benjamin99 wrote: Titan pretty damm good Not to be rude towards Titan, but that was all Ret messing up, not Titan doing something particularly well. | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
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m0ck
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
good job from TItan though. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:59 Elsid wrote: What has happened to rets monstrous ZvP? He never had a monstrous ZvP. He only had a really good mid-game. His lategame in all matchups is kinda weak. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 30 2012 02:58 Youtakenocandle wrote: Ret throwing games with poor engagements, shocking. Rets late game army control has always been his biggest weakness. Not that surprising. Btw I like how the new guy who is not even a sc2 caster I think called that better than Apollo. That guy is actually surprisingly good. | ||
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Maddhatter1
United States51 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:00 Youtakenocandle wrote: Not to be rude towards Titan, but that was all Ret messing up, not Titan doing something particularly well. Titan did play well throughout the series, but that last game he was definitely sloppy, Ret just was even more sloppy | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:00 m0ck wrote: Are all matches from replays or only semis? um that was live | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
edit: I'm an idiot Kas is Ukranian TT | ||
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Netherlands4511 Posts
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
Oh ok, my bad. Misunderstanding, | ||
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Greece64 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's True :D i can confirm, mass blink stalker is actually quite good vs broodlords and you can never fungal all of them so most of the time more than half of their army is under your broodlords and broodlords are weak to target fire. Losing most of your broodlords is much more painful that losing stalkers for protoss. You probably need more support army like -3/4 broodlords +30 lings or so. In addition your army isn't really mobile. | ||
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scsnow
Slovenia515 Posts
I am hoping for a 3-2 in second semi and 4-3 in the finals  | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:05 c78331 wrote: If ret had 5-6 infestors he would have won the last battle convincingly,titan though played really well i remember his first pvzs it is like night and day with now. I remember his PvZ on Terminus where he went 3 speed warp prisms with 2 immortals in it each vs Muta and sniped bases everywhere. That shit was sick. he seems to play a lot more standard now but I think his PvZ has always been pretty cool | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's I think the colossi wrecked the DPS of your broods by killing all the broodlings. Not sure what to do about that, but infestors do a lot of damage to stalkers with fungals - they're not there just to hold the stalkers from blinking. Titan's colossi heavy late game play is ingenious in a way - forget motherships, archons, carriers and all that clutch jazz. Straight up colossi to kill brood lings, HTs to feedback infestors, and stalkers to kill the brood lords after the ground forces and broodlings are dead. Econ efficient and a lot faster timing. | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:05 Nerchio wrote: True :D i can confirm, mass blink stalker is actually quite good vs broodlords and you can never fungal all of them so most of the time more than half of their army is under your broodlords and broodlords are weak to target fire. Losing most of your broodlords is much more painful that losing stalkers for protoss. You probably need more support army like -3/4 broodlords +30 lings or so. In addition your army isn't really mobile. Whats your bet on Luci vs Stephano?? | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:06 SeriouR wrote: I think that you need to keep closer to spine crawlers when engaging blink stalkers and/or have more infestors. Upgrates were key too, when Stephano goes for the BL/infestor mix he goes for double air upgrates. well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote: well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game Don't be downhearted. It was pretty close. I have been very impressed with your form recently. Stephano, Nerchio and yourself are the best 3 European zerg currently. I think you can do very well at the Red Bull tourney next month. | ||
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Baseic
Netherlands310 Posts
It looked pretty painful, you kept losing your broodlords because you didn't have enough support, made me very sad, it just seemed like you wanted to rush it too much. I'm worse than you though, I may be way off Gogo Ret fighting! Huge grats to Titan, very strong and underestimated protoss! | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:12 sixfour wrote: paella? There are more things in spain other than paella and sangria ~~ | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote: well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game Don't you worry man, you are awesome. I hope you win the next tourney you play :D | ||
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England11061 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:10 Liquid`Ret wrote: well yes that's ideal but at some point u need another base :X at this moment in time i find myself playing zvp with plenty of money and any unit to choose from i spend more time thinking about what unit i actually need rather than playing the game How difficult would it be to incorporate ultralisks into the classic zerg late-game composition? SlayerSYuGiOh used to rush to 4 base infestor/broodlord/ultralisk behind mass spines, and while protosses eventually learned to expand faster they could never deal with that army in a direct fight. | ||
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Nauru12397 Posts
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Germany5427 Posts
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Estonia409 Posts
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Muffel
Germany137 Posts
had to play DRG ad DH and today stephano :/ hard to show that he is actualy realy good when he has to play the tournament winner in the first round :D | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:27 revel8 wrote: Stephano dealt with drops extremely well in that game. yeah, kind of hard counters someone known for his great drop micro | ||
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Germany63 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:23 dAPhREAk wrote: ugh, lucifron looks so bad when playing with stephano. =( I really dont think LucifroN looked bad there at all, just Stephano looking massively too powerful | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:28 LittLeD wrote: I really dont think LucifroN looked bad there at all, just Stephano looking massively too powerful at the point i wrote it, he was doing two simultaneous drops. one on a group of lings with spore/spine, and one on a group of roaches with infestors. he lost both drops. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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United States7875 Posts
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England443 Posts
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United States7875 Posts
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Bulgaria516 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:37 Chicane wrote: Wow... Lucifron (as Apollo said) continued to get the gas instead of bunkers, and then he moved all his SCVs and mules into the 2 banelings... >.< He must have just thought it was a 6-8 roach pressure to do some damage to a greedy terran, in which case the point is to not overreact and 1 repaired bunker is enough. But yes it was strange. It seemed obvious that baneling support was a highly probable option so a few cheap bunkers is the standard response. | ||
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United Kingdom3022 Posts
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France2888 Posts
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Germany5427 Posts
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Australia1029 Posts
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emis
Estonia409 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:42 Lasbike wrote: Stephano on 200/2000, he should attack now and not let Lucifron catch up. Only Stephano can go 200/2000 | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
Actually everyone can go 200/2000....if he said 2000/200 i would agree with you | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
Whoops, my bad :p | ||
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
Stephano goes 2000/200 every game. Usually by 12 minutes. | ||
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Germany63 Posts
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United States21060 Posts
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France360 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:38 Chicane wrote: That sounded more like a rape analogy than a sports reference. D: Sex isn't always about rape friend. I wish you one day to have a girl spread her leg for you because she loves you. | ||
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emis
Estonia409 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:48 MekTypro wrote: What's the score plz ? Can't watch stream cause my internet sucks t_t + Show Spoiler + 2-0 for Stephano | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:48 Otolia wrote: Sex isn't always about rape friend. I wish you one day to have a girl spread her leg for you because she loves you. Sex isn't always about rape? LOL. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:48 Otolia wrote: Sex isn't always about rape friend. I wish you one day to have a girl spread her leg for you because she loves you. Isnt allways?? haha god | ||
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France2888 Posts
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England11061 Posts
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Belgium4158 Posts
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United Kingdom38149 Posts
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Germany1597 Posts
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Belgium2844 Posts
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United Kingdom6330 Posts
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Finland9221 Posts
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France496 Posts
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United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Australia1029 Posts
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United States21060 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:59 Ylrahc wrote: You mean Stephano didn't want to play this map so tried a T3 rush w/o baneling nest, or any real defense for that matters ? uhhh no thats not what we meant. | ||
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milesfacade
United Kingdom799 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:59 Ylrahc wrote: You mean Stephano didn't want to play this map so tried a T3 rush w/o baneling nest, or any real defense for that matters ? Why wouldn't you want to play Atlantis as a zerg? | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
in the end, made a ton of lings, but it was too late | ||
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:59 Ylrahc wrote: You mean Stephano didn't want to play this map so tried a T3 rush w/o baneling nest, or any real defense for that matters ? Or you could give Luci some fucking credit. He hit a good 2/2 timing when Stephano was just getting infestors out. Not enough fungal against bio means you're going to have a bad day. | ||
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France496 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:01 Phobbers wrote: Or you could give Luci some fucking credit. He hit a good 2/2 timing when Stephano was just getting infestors out. Not enough fungal against bio means you're going to have a bad day. Fact is, Stephano played a style he knows is not safe because he probably thinks he is a lot better than his opponent. Map 4 & 5 may prove me wrong though, let's see. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:02 Ylrahc wrote: Fact is, Stephano played a style he knows is not safe because he probably thinks he is a lot better than his opponent. Map 4 & 5 may prove me wrong though, let's see. If you think you are a lot better you usually play more safe. | ||
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:03 Redox wrote: If you think you are a lot better you usually play more safe. No, you play cheesy (or greedy which is a form of economical cheese) so you can end the match faster. You play safe when there is a lot on the line and you don't want to get "cheesed" or time-attacked. At least that's why I observed usually, however I agree there may be a lot to discuss on this subject, feel free to explain to me your way to see things (no joke or troll here, there may have been some in some of my previous comments ).Weird choice of map from Stephano btw, I saw him getting raped a lot on this map because his army wasn't mobile enough and he could protect his bases successfully. Edit : betting on broodlords, if Luci is able to manage his marines like Polt, he can do it. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:07 Ylrahc wrote: No, you play cheesy (or greedy which is a form of economical cheese) so you can end the match faster. You play safe when there is a lot on the line and you don't want to get "cheesed" or time-attacked. well, if it's not an important game, sure. otherwise you'll generally want to play in a way that'll reduce variance, obviously chucking in occasional cheese to be less exploitable | ||
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Saiwa
Germany789 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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France2888 Posts
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United States7875 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
gg | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
patience is the best skill to have, and it paid good | ||
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United States5052 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:16 NeonFox wrote: I don't get why Stephano never goes for ultra baneling, it's perfect against bio heavy forces like this. no gas for infestors, get kited die horribly. | ||
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France2888 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:10 sixfour wrote: well, if it's not an important game, sure. otherwise you'll generally want to play in a way that'll reduce variance, obviously chucking in occasional cheese to be less exploitable Question is, he was leading 2 - 0 against a (in his opinion) weaker opponent in a cup for "only" (he could win more or less the same amount if he was streaming instead of participating, w/o actually having to win) 1000€. Was it, for Stephano, an important game ? I don't think so. Game 4 seemed to prove me right, he made a safer build and totally outplayed Lucifron in late game. | ||
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Germany1597 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:18 Ylrahc wrote: Question is, he was leading 2 - 0 against a (in his opinion) weaker opponent in a cup for "only" (he could win more or less the same amount if he was streaming instead of participating, w/o actually having to win) 1000€. Was is, for Stephano, an important game ? I don't think so. Game 4 seemed to prove me right, he made a safer build and totally outplayed Lucifron in late game. well, it wasn't really, esp given that he'd have the map choice in set 4 (and 5 if needed), i'm just talking in general | ||
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Cejotas
Spain88 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:18 Ylrahc wrote: Question is, he was leading 2 - 0 against a (in his opinion) weaker opponent in a cup for "only" (he could win more or less the same amount if he was streaming instead of participating, w/o actually having to win) 1000€. Was it, for Stephano, an important game ? I don't think so. Game 4 seemed to prove me right, he made a safer build and totally outplayed Lucifron in late game. He lost a game, deal with it. 1000$ is a lot of money, I don't think that he does this in 3 hours streaming. | ||
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Myt
Germany318 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:10 Saiwa wrote: Apollo is really good They are both pretty good. Apollo shows his great gameknowledge like a boss and Semmler too is a lot better in casting as in talking to girls^^ | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:21 Myt wrote: They are both pretty good. Apollo shows his great gameknowledge like a boss and Semmler too is a lot better in casting as in talking to girls^^ He is french buddy, he doesn't need to talk to girls. But when he talks, Girls come ! PS : Pun inside | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
I don't ever think I've seen a terran a move 10 thors into 100 zerglings and complain they suck. If Stephano would have just instantly maxed on roach/ling/bane the game would have ended way sooner. Zergs still don't drop at all. How devastating would it have been to drop 30 lings into Lucifron's main? If creep can be spread every 15 seconds why wasn't the entire map covered by the game's end? How much easier would Stephano have won if he made a nydus network right outside of lucifrons 3rd and streamed units into it indefinitely? | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Ireland247 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:19 sixfour wrote: well, it wasn't really, esp given that he'd have the map choice in set 4 (and 5 if needed), i'm just talking in general Okay, my misunderstanding. He lost a game, deal with it. 1000$ is a lot of money, I don't think that he does this in 3 hours streaming You'd be suprised...when he talks he gets 10k+, sometimes 15k+ viewers on his stream, spams advertising, imho he gets more than that... | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:39 Nerchio wrote: Titan could have taken that easily but he did too much forward blinks so he lost like 5 stalkers where he could lose none. What's your prediction for the finals? How would you rate Titan's PvZ against Stephano's ZvP? | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:39 Nerchio wrote: Titan could have taken that easily but he did too much forward blinks so he lost like 5 stalkers where he could lose none. Are you still studying at School, Nerchio? Or are you full-time pro? | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
Either there is something wrong with Daybreak, or protoss should start to search for another opening... | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:40 HowardRoark wrote: Boring all-in. yes, from both players | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:42 Ylrahc wrote: I've the feeling I've seen this match a million times on Daybreak with Stephano as the 3 bases zerg holding a protoss 2 bases all in and win Either there is something wrong with Daybreak, or protoss should start to search for another opening...No, Titan had the win. His build hit at a timing when Stephano was very vulnerable - he was at 90 supply vs. 110 with BLINK STALKERS. That's an auto-win in the hands of a top Korean Protoss but Titan's micro failed. | ||
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disco
Netherlands1667 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: i feel i didnt really mess up tbh, at some point u need a 5th base but if you move towards it u can lose all ur bls, maybe if i have 8 infestors and get perfect fungals then i can stop blinks before they happen (?) but normally as soon as u see the army the stalkers blink so u can fungal them but they are already under your bl's Isn't this why you always need some ground support? To make him actually pay for blinking under your broodlords. He's gonna be focussing the broodlords so ling/roach can clean it all up quite quickly. I understand that this will have an effect on the amount of broodlords. You played well anyway, I'm just always sad to see you lose because we all know what you can do. | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:31 Ylrahc wrote: Okay, my misunderstanding. You'd be suprised...when he talks he gets 10k+, sometimes 15k+ viewers on his stream, spams advertising, imho he gets more than that... you overestimates the amound of money advertising on a stream makes | ||
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:43 Azarkon wrote: No, Titan had the win. His build hit at a timing when Stephano was very vulnerable - he was at 90 supply vs. 110 with BLINK STALKERS. That's an auto-win in the hands of a top Korean Protoss but Titan's micro failed. MC stalkers micro makes me hard, no kidding You're right, so the thing that was wrong is the protoss, ok Still this kind o f game happens very often when Stephano & Daybreak are involved, Stephano must lose, but...it must be some kind of black magic | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:44 DOUDOU wrote: you overestimates the amound of money advertising on a stream makes Its not 1k in 3 hours but smth around 400 dollar seems realistic in my eyes. (based on information about the earnings TLO got on his 24h charity event) But you understimate the marketing bonus of winning such a tournament. Winning is always good, it pleases the sponsors, your clan and helps your reputation. | ||
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England11061 Posts
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United Kingdom3022 Posts
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United States337 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:57 sixfour wrote: titan's blink micro is pretty impressive. obv playing against someone with no mouse helps Now you're the one trolling He played quite well, keeping his colossus alive, Stephano (again) was a bit too greedy saccing all his roaches while he could just have transitioned into something more effective while he was 4 base vs 2 (I saw a spire, infestors were an option too). Titan couldn't push as he would have been surrounded by roaches and his whole army would have died. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:57 sixfour wrote: titan's blink micro is pretty impressive. obv playing against someone with no mouse helps Pretty sure Stephano immediatly paused when the mouse was off. He also controlled his roaches all the time. When he tried to snipe the Colossus but titan pulled it back the last second, that was not bad control by Stephano lke Apollo claimed. It was just titan doing the right thing and Stephano being a little unlucky. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Ireland247 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13379 Posts
It seems to be how he wins most of his PvZs. :S | ||
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United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
Of couse, against top koreans, it's another story as they don't make these kind of mistakes On April 30 2012 05:10 ZeromuS wrote: I honestly don't know how well Stephano will do the moment his roach max is completely figured out. It seems to be how he wins most of his PvZs. :S Well he has an extremly strong late game vs protoss as well with infestors / BLs, and does pretty good with 2 bases mutas as well, although he doesn't use mutas much in "serious" games. I don't know why, probably because he feels he is not skilled enough to pull it off against top protosses. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:10 ZeromuS wrote: I honestly don't know how well Stephano will do the moment his roach max is completely figured out. By the time that happens it will be time for HOTS which is going to massively change the game anyway. | ||
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Nauru12397 Posts
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United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Kahlgar
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On April 30 2012 05:10 ZeromuS wrote: I honestly don't know how well Stephano will do the moment his roach max is completely figured out. It seems to be how he wins most of his PvZs. :S fwiw back when he used other builds, his ZvP was already very good | ||
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Germany456 Posts
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France2888 Posts
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United States21060 Posts
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Veclada
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ZeromuS
Canada13379 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:37 Veclada wrote: so boring, just go stargate against stephano and win That doesnt work. Stephano is just much much better than Titan that is all | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
He should have either got a shitload of cannons or got some tech before he tried getting the Nexus. | ||
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France2888 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:37 Veclada wrote: so boring, just go stargate against stephano and win didnt he do that last game and lose? as mondragon said, the counter to void rays is roaches. | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:39 Lasbike wrote: This guy is totally bilingual, perfect french. Cool. Is he American or Canadian? | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:39 Lasbike wrote: This guy is totally bilingual, perfect french. being french helps but didn't even got the first couplet right! | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
French, I think. | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
I'm such a sack of shit. | ||
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United States5018 Posts
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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
GG Stephano! | ||
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:40 DOUDOU wrote: being french helps but didn't even got the first couplet right! Ho, he's french ? Well that sure helps :D | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Germany23571 Posts
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Congrats to Stephano for winning the mini-tourney. Well done to all the players, casters and sponsors. A really fun and enjoyable mini-tournament. Really convenient time-zone for me too! | ||
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mememolly
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
The best foreigner is between him, Naniwa, and Thorzain - best Zerg, best Protoss, and best Terran in the foreigner's scene. | ||
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Finland230 Posts
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Myt
Germany318 Posts
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Dotq
Norway235 Posts
Well done. | ||
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Slovakia336 Posts
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Dearn
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Norway3381 Posts
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France1352 Posts
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ilikeLIONZ
Germany427 Posts
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TheGDStudio
Sweden12 Posts
Semmler was born in the USA but one of his parents is French. | ||
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Youtakenocandle
543 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:59 Dotq wrote: Kinda strange how you can put up a small 4 man online tournament for liturally no cost compared to a huge offline tournament and get half or 1/3 viewers Well done.For a shorter period of time though. But yeah I like the format. No fluff like most tournaments, that force you to stay in your house for 3 days. | ||
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France111 Posts
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myti
Finland43 Posts
//slightly offtopic but still about gd studio i really like that you aren't only focusing on 1 game. quake is always fun to watch, dota 2 is my favourite game atm and this is the first time i've seen blc, but i'm trying to gather up friends to go out and play it. thanks and keep up the gd work gl trying to get singsing casting with you! | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On April 30 2012 10:54 tree.hugger wrote: Great mini-tournament, and also a great job of picking a great line-up based on skill and not just on popularity. All of these guys are so incredible, on another day it could've gone completely differently. Great games, and grats to Stephano! hmm no Stephano would've won no matter what...thoe online tourneys with euro players+Stephano always go to the frenchman. | ||
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