[Code S] Group C Ro16 GSL 2012 Season 2 - Page 119

On April 25 2012 21:26 Fragile51 wrote:


Hey! Shush! Dongraegu will be back in the Code S finals next season! D:

On April 25 2012 21:07 architecture wrote:

How is it that you can understand the 7 gate is a coinflip, but not understand that essentially every build is a coinflip. It wins against some, and loses against others. You can play super safe, but that is also a loss against greedy builds! There is no such thing as truly "safe", there are only advantages or disadvantages.

My point is that the dis/advantages are too harsh in this matchup for both races. It's too fatal. Z used to complain about this in ZvT, but mostly it's been hammered out and no one really dies that much. Look at the way T are able to handle 2 base Z busts, barely. That's good design.



As for MKP it's not always possible to sneak out another SCV 6m+ when there are stalkers camping your towers. Moving out with your marines, especially when you are preparing a build designed to deal with is really risky.

The issue isn't scouting. The issue is that you are forced to make a bet (you've taken a ton of geysers) and are waiting for 3 tanks for 9m+ timing. The side effect is that you die to other stuff. Ideally, this would be a game where proper execution meant that builds could survive multiple opposing builds without taking significant disadvantage. Unfortunately this just isn't true right now in SC2, and especially in TvP.

Also: the extra gates in a 7 gate take 1m to go up, and probably around 1m30s-2m to the required number of units being warped in. There's essentially no room there to make any adjustments for the opposing player. What do you expect there to be different in a reaction. If you didn't get so much gas, and had more rax + marines, you could potentially do bunkers, like the 6+ bunkers we've seen. Otherwise all you can really do that in that time is continue your build.