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On April 23 2012 02:41 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:39 Funkydonky wrote:On April 23 2012 02:36 Azarkon wrote:On April 23 2012 02:35 Funkydonky wrote:On April 23 2012 02:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 23 2012 02:31 Doublemint wrote:
hm that´s like exactly how nestea beat stephano - better control in the early stages of the game. Nestea won the games vs. Stephano with better understanding of the match up. First game he won he built 20-30 lings while Stephano was droning and Stephano was caught without units. Second game he won he did by building a spine crawler in his mineral lines and hiding his banelings in a ling baneling all-in, where Stephano did neither. You do realize that is not better understanding but just pure luck, because he didn't scout in the first game that stephano was droning. And you forget to mention that stephano beat nestea in macro game, out multitasking nestea heavily. Nestea has a 80% win rate in ZvZ - you think he gets lucky? We are talking about those particular games, i love how you changed the topic. People like you are the reason why discussion on forums are pointless. Nestea and Stephano did exactly the same in that last game but Nestea was prepared and stephano not. being prepared or not is not about luck, its about understanding "fuck he might attack me"
Not only that, but Nestea understands - and Monster understands - that the best defense in ZvZ is offense.
You are not safe in ZvZ. You don't drone when you don't know what's coming. You attack. In attacking, you gain scouting information, and you punish droning by your opponent. Attacking tells you when you are able to transition and get a round of drones in. Being defensive doesn't.
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They don't look happy because they haven't won the tournament yet. I don't know how many of you have ever played in a tournament, but you don't really want to relax fully until you are done. Monster is still in this, so while he is feeling a minor high from winning this bo3, he still has more games to play and wants to keep the same intensity for the rest of the day.
Come on guys. A little empathy please.
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Just by music alone does dreamhack make it worth it.
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song please?
edit: someone on stream said Tristan Garner presents Caribe - Panama
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On April 23 2012 02:42 Eee wrote:People are probably out doing something else until the semis/finals, was the same last Dreamhack.
I'm in the crowd now and that's what's going on. Alot of people go to eat etc, I guess they pick zvz to skip. I'm staying for every game tho.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:42 JWD wrote:
DreamHack EIZO Open: 1 part SC2 tourney, 1 part EDM show
Which is pretty cool imo.
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On April 23 2012 02:44 mRandy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:42 Eee wrote:On April 23 2012 02:36 `Zapdos wrote:
Why is it so empty up in there? People are probably out doing something else until the semis/finals, was the same last Dreamhack. I'm in the crowd now and that's what's going on. Alot of people go to eat etc, I guess they pick zvz to skip. I'm staying for every game tho.
That's dedication. Give a loud cheer from us TLers who can't be there 
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Nerchio oh Nerchio.....  (((
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this kind of strengthens what i was thinking before DH that naniwa is not really deserving of where he is at in GSL. I dont think any other current code s ro8 participant would have lost to the people he has lost to in dreamhack =\
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Damn, nice beats Dreamhack.
What's the name of this song? Really digging the Spanish guitar effect.
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On April 23 2012 02:39 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:37 Youtakenocandle wrote:On April 23 2012 02:35 Spitmode wrote:
am i the only one who thinks these interviews with the koreans are kinda weird and awkward? i dont know.. They always are. I find it odd that in 2012 young Koreans don't speak English, don't they get thaught that in school? I got taught Spanish for 4 years in school and I don't claim to speak it. It's common to "learn" a language and not have any comfortable grasp of it unless you put it to use in your everyday life.
The way we learn languages in English speaking countries is really, really half-arsed
Although I can kind of understand it. I quite enjoyed learning German at school, and any time I've tried to speak German to someone who is German they've just switched it to English immediately. Only French would be useful for me now (I think) as they're pretty nationalistic about the whole thing.
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Really.. the music, the venue, the players, the casters... everything really cool. easily beats iem and mlg. Matches arent everything Great Job!
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On April 23 2012 02:43 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:40 Azarkon wrote:On April 23 2012 02:39 Funkydonky wrote:On April 23 2012 02:36 Azarkon wrote:On April 23 2012 02:35 Funkydonky wrote:On April 23 2012 02:33 Azarkon wrote:On April 23 2012 02:31 Doublemint wrote:
hm that´s like exactly how nestea beat stephano - better control in the early stages of the game. Nestea won the games vs. Stephano with better understanding of the match up. First game he won he built 20-30 lings while Stephano was droning and Stephano was caught without units. Second game he won he did by building a spine crawler in his mineral lines and hiding his banelings in a ling baneling all-in, where Stephano did neither. You do realize that is not better understanding but just pure luck, because he didn't scout in the first game that stephano was droning. And you forget to mention that stephano beat nestea in macro game, out multitasking nestea heavily. Nestea has a 80% win rate in ZvZ - you think he gets lucky? We are talking about those particular games, i love how you changed the topic. People like you are the reason why discussion on forums are pointless. I'm not the one saying that Nestea got lucky in his games vs. Stephano. He didn't - he outplayed Stephano. Gah If I had known I would start a fight between a Nestea/Stephano Fan I would have just kept silent about it...
I'm not a Nestea fan, but saying that Stephano has better knowledge of this match-up than the guy with 80% win rate in it is crazy. Stephano has a lot to learn in this match up from Nestea.
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On April 23 2012 02:45 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:44 mRandy wrote:On April 23 2012 02:42 Eee wrote:On April 23 2012 02:36 `Zapdos wrote:
Why is it so empty up in there? People are probably out doing something else until the semis/finals, was the same last Dreamhack. I'm in the crowd now and that's what's going on. Alot of people go to eat etc, I guess they pick zvz to skip. I'm staying for every game tho. That's dedication. Give a loud cheer from us TLers who can't be there
Haha thanks will do!
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United States12607 Posts
On April 23 2012 02:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:42 JWD wrote:
DreamHack EIZO Open: 1 part SC2 tourney, 1 part EDM show Which is pretty cool imo.
It's awesome!
just getting me more psyched for Hardwell/Bingo Players show Wednesday...
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Oh wow, DH is only over 2 days? Brutal x_X
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On April 23 2012 02:42 TheBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 02:39 Youtakenocandle wrote:On April 23 2012 02:37 JWD wrote:On April 23 2012 02:37 Youtakenocandle wrote:On April 23 2012 02:35 Spitmode wrote:
am i the only one who thinks these interviews with the koreans are kinda weird and awkward? i dont know.. They always are. I find it odd that in 2012 young Koreans don't speak English, don't they get thaught that in school? dude, chill on that. It requires a really high level of language competency to answer complicated questions in front of a huge crowd. And a 12 year old Swedish kid can (Najsomething)? Anyway I guess it's offtopic, so I'll drop it. Swedish and English are both germanic languages, not a fair comparison.
English also becomes really prevalent in smaller countries that do a huge amount of business with English speaking countries. Sweden is a good example.
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EPT
