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[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Code S Ro32 Group F - Page 69

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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#1361
Yeah, I think 2 good Protoss players going at it in a PvP could be really good. Better than the three PvZs we've had so far, and the PvT curb-stomping that was MC vs Rain.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#1362
That reminds me of that speech loop hiccup they had some season back.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
April 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#1363
What happened to our player intros?....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Tulkas25
Profile Joined August 2011
Greece292 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1364
On April 12 2012 20:30 K_Dilkington wrote:
Reading this thread I can only conclude that the average IQ of starcraft 2 fans is the same as fans of other games; quite low.


Thank you for your constructive and itelligent criticism!
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1365
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1366
On April 12 2012 20:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:27 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:26 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:24 Wildmoon wrote:
Seems like 2012 will be the year for Protoss.

We were saying that last GSL and MC still remains the only Toss to win a GSL. Perhaps this month us Aiur-folk will manage it, Parting's probably looked the strongest so far but his PvP looks a bit iffy. Guy apparently thinks his PvZ is actually his best matchup, judging by his PvT that's a terrifying prospect!


That's incorrect, actually.

Last season, you were defeated by DRG 0:3 quite handily

I made too many mistakes. I’d never been nervous since my debut match but in ro8, I was so nervous. I couldn’t defend against attacks that I should have been able to and overall, just made a lot of mistakes. Since then, my vZ had gotten worse. Also, last season, not meeting a lot of Zergs, my practice against the race was lacking. However, lately, I am practising my vZ a lot so I can win against most Zergs. I can’t say that for DRG but he’s no longer in this season. So I am glad.

From http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328331

My 30 hours of not sleeping are catching up with me, as you didn't utilise quotation marks I thought you were initially invalidating my posts on account of me being defeated by DRG 3-0.

Sadly for variety's sake the chances for him to show off these newly developed PvZ chops seem to be hanging on a knife-edge given how Zergs have done this season. Plus it deprives us of TvZ


No, lack of sleep was not the issue there as I read it the same way at first... though I don't actually ever sleep so maybe I am suffering from lack of sleep also.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:34:45
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1367
On April 12 2012 20:31 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:30 K_Dilkington wrote:
Reading this thread I can only conclude that the average IQ of starcraft 2 fans is the same as fans of other games; quite low.


Awesome constructive comment. Thanks for stopping by.


Yeah and the thousands of balance whine posts are very constructive, no? Seems like the being constructive is of little importance in this thread.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1368
On April 12 2012 20:32 SeeKeR wrote:
What happened to our player intros?....


I was thinking the same. Maybe that sound was them leaving.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1369
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..


I sure don't.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 12 2012 11:33 GMT
#1370
On April 12 2012 20:28 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:25 m0ck wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:24 THM wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:21 Tsubbi wrote:
new dual sight is so hard zvp, 2 base allins come so quick and 2 forcefield is enough to close in on the 3rd


Funny comment, bearing in mind that the map was chosen by Leenock, and he had all other GSL maps to choose from. So clearly he thinks this is the best map for ZvP out of all in the pool.

It's not hard ZvP, it's a zerg favored map, that is why it was picked.

Statistics tell a different story..

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/499_Dual_Sight_1.1

I remamber this statistic being up before, and I think toss has won alott of games here, because they know they must 2 base allinn here, if the go 3 base they lose.
Stupid of Leenock not to be ready for it, he knows that a 2 base allinn is most likely here.

Ergo: Many toss are good at 2 base allinn =)

Well, maybe the lesson is that 2-base all-ins are quite hard to hold on a map with as small as distance as we see on Dual Sight, and because of that the map isn't really Z-favored at all. I mean, Leenock clearly felt he had a good chance on the map, and he made a good fight of it, but it's just hard to argue with the results.

In any case, not to go all balance-bukake, but the zergs do have a very hard time in the GSL and that may well skew the map statistic.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#1371
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..


People said that about ZvZ finals and they were pretty interesting.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#1372
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..

Well no, but at least we'd finally get another Protoss Code S Champions 100%
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#1373
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..

It's actually a very fun matchup both to play and to watch in a Bo7 series if both players are equally skilled (and highly so, if possible :D).
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#1374
PvZ in general is looking pretty Protoss-favoured at the moment. It's not unique to Dual Sight at all.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
April 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#1375
Artosis is amazing... BW love for NaDa... Totally see where hes comin from.
YOU CAN NEVER DISS THE GENIOUS TERRAN!!
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 12 2012 11:35 GMT
#1376
On April 12 2012 20:33 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:31 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:30 K_Dilkington wrote:
Reading this thread I can only conclude that the average IQ of starcraft 2 fans is the same as fans of other games; quite low.


Awesome constructive comment. Thanks for stopping by.


Yeah and the thousands of balance whine threads are very constructive, no? Seems like the being constructive is of little importance in this thread.


"Well they are stupid so im gonna be stupid too"

That's not an argument.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 12 2012 11:35 GMT
#1377
On April 12 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..


People said that about ZvZ finals and they were pretty interesting.


Didnt we go into those finals thinking Nestea was going to crush Losira then Nestea proceeded to crush Losira.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27202 Posts
April 12 2012 11:35 GMT
#1378
On April 12 2012 20:33 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:27 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:26 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:24 Wildmoon wrote:
Seems like 2012 will be the year for Protoss.

We were saying that last GSL and MC still remains the only Toss to win a GSL. Perhaps this month us Aiur-folk will manage it, Parting's probably looked the strongest so far but his PvP looks a bit iffy. Guy apparently thinks his PvZ is actually his best matchup, judging by his PvT that's a terrifying prospect!


That's incorrect, actually.

Last season, you were defeated by DRG 0:3 quite handily

I made too many mistakes. I’d never been nervous since my debut match but in ro8, I was so nervous. I couldn’t defend against attacks that I should have been able to and overall, just made a lot of mistakes. Since then, my vZ had gotten worse. Also, last season, not meeting a lot of Zergs, my practice against the race was lacking. However, lately, I am practising my vZ a lot so I can win against most Zergs. I can’t say that for DRG but he’s no longer in this season. So I am glad.

From http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328331

My 30 hours of not sleeping are catching up with me, as you didn't utilise quotation marks I thought you were initially invalidating my posts on account of me being defeated by DRG 3-0.

Sadly for variety's sake the chances for him to show off these newly developed PvZ chops seem to be hanging on a knife-edge given how Zergs have done this season. Plus it deprives us of TvZ


No, lack of sleep was not the issue there as I read it the same way at first... though I don't actually ever sleep so maybe I am suffering from lack of sleep also.

Does it affect your SC? Mine's got to the stage where I pretty much am unable to play, the worst example of which was playing PvT yesterday and forgetting the FIRST pylon. Curse my habits and general physiology.

Also I would love to play DRG damnit, 0-3 would be a good result for me in that.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 12 2012 11:35 GMT
#1379
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..


2 top Protoss players playing PvP is actually one of the best matchups. For proof go watch the VoD of Hero's stream from last night, somewhere in there there is a 50 minute long PvP that is unbelievably amazing.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
April 12 2012 11:36 GMT
#1380
On April 12 2012 20:35 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:34 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 20:33 Ryps wrote:
Do protoss players want a PvP final ? Isnt that like the worst MU in the game..


People said that about ZvZ finals and they were pretty interesting.


Didnt we go into those finals thinking Nestea was going to crush Losira then Nestea proceeded to crush Losira.


The games were interesting though.

It's still better than the Nestea/Inca DT abomination.
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