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polybios
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic111 Posts
April 09 2012 10:06 GMT
#15781
is there any list of recommended games to watch?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
April 09 2012 10:09 GMT
#15782
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
April 09 2012 10:09 GMT
#15783
wow congrats to alive and fnatic!!!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 09 2012 10:12 GMT
#15784
I liked the tournament, though I'm sad that stephano didn't make it past nestea. He could have put up a much better fight against alive and squirtle than the all-in cheesemaster that is nestea. Nice to see some very talented, but not very recognized, players get some time in the spotlight. Remember, the 'fan favorites' all started out this way.
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
April 09 2012 10:14 GMT
#15785
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


Yes I know and the Koreans deserve it. But still it's bad for the tournaments. Look at Alive, he is a perfect example of why Korean players aren't as popular as western players. Shy, overly humble, doesn't speak english, that's just a culture clash.

One thing IGN really needs to do in my opinion is sort their hosts out. They had too many out of place chicks, Anna Prosser for example has no idea how to work the crowd, it felt flat everytime. You need a nerd like Day9 or 2GD.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 09 2012 10:16 GMT
#15786
TT Squirtle, so close =(
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 09 2012 10:57 GMT
#15787
On April 09 2012 19:06 polybios wrote:
is there any list of recommended games to watch?

Honestly, you should watch the entire NesTea/aLive, NesTea/Squirtle and aLive/Squirtle series, all so sick. If I had to pick one game it would be NesTea/aLive game one though.
Tsunami49
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom46 Posts
April 09 2012 10:58 GMT
#15788
Pretty good tournament overall. I just think we need a foreigner to take the fight to the koreans and have a win to shake things up a bit. It just that the Korean pros lack charisma but a margin. I feel happy for alive but a huk win for example would have been totally baller!

I think we need western super hero to keep us interested or it's gonna go bw again. Would be nice to have the scene be more of an even playing field.
Getting out of woodleague, My Blog: http://wp.me/p32YqT-e
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
April 09 2012 11:07 GMT
#15789
Poor final srsly ... the end of the first Bo5 was intense because of the come back but thats all.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 09 2012 11:07 GMT
#15790
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


I dont agree that Stephano is a tier below the absolutle top he lost to MMA and Marineking in there best matchup and in Stephano´s worst. His lose against Nestea I feel he should have won but no shame it happend sometimes. Stephano did amasing top 6 is incredible. Even MMM and MKP lost 2 games where they got 2-0 they are a tier below the absolut top? ofcourse not.

Nahh Stephano proved he belong to the top of the sc2 scene. I consider Stephano a top 3 zerg rigth after Nestea and DRG.

Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
polybios
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic111 Posts
April 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#15791
On April 09 2012 19:57 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:06 polybios wrote:
is there any list of recommended games to watch?

Honestly, you should watch the entire NesTea/aLive, NesTea/Squirtle and aLive/Squirtle series, all so sick. If I had to pick one game it would be NesTea/aLive game one though.


thanks!
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
April 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#15792
On April 09 2012 20:07 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


I dont agree that Stephano is a tier below the absolutle top he lost to MMA and Marineking in there best matchup and in Stephano´s worst. His lose against Nestea I feel he should have won but no shame it happend sometimes. Stephano did amasing top 6 is incredible. Even MMM and MKP lost 2 games where they got 2-0 they are a tier below the absolut top? ofcourse not.

Nahh Stephano proved he belong to the top of the sc2 scene. I consider Stephano a top 3 zerg rigth after Nestea and DRG.



how can you even say that? Just because he does well againt the top in a one weekend tourney there are still so many better zergs. He has to prove himself in code A imo. I feel like any code a korean can give stephano a run for his money.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
April 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#15793
wow didnt expect Alive to win, Gratz to him!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 09 2012 11:23 GMT
#15794
Had a feeling aLive would win when i went to bed after i saw him defeating Nestea, still it seems Squirtle put up a good fight .

Shame i couldn't see it all, but i knew i had to go to sleep when i almost fell asleep doing the last match between Nestea and aLive ^^
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
April 09 2012 11:32 GMT
#15795
On April 09 2012 20:12 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 20:07 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


I dont agree that Stephano is a tier below the absolutle top he lost to MMA and Marineking in there best matchup and in Stephano´s worst. His lose against Nestea I feel he should have won but no shame it happend sometimes. Stephano did amasing top 6 is incredible. Even MMM and MKP lost 2 games where they got 2-0 they are a tier below the absolut top? ofcourse not.

Nahh Stephano proved he belong to the top of the sc2 scene. I consider Stephano a top 3 zerg rigth after Nestea and DRG.



how can you even say that? Just because he does well againt the top in a one weekend tourney there are still so many better zergs. He has to prove himself in code A imo. I feel like any code a korean can give stephano a run for his money.


he's on par with these zergs except DRG and Nestea
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
April 09 2012 11:47 GMT
#15796
On April 09 2012 19:12 m0ck wrote:
I liked the tournament, though I'm sad that stephano didn't make it past nestea. He could have put up a much better fight against alive and squirtle than the all-in cheesemaster that is nestea.


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NesTea beat both aLive and Squirtle before the finals.
The only person aLive lost to all tournament was NesTea.

I have no doubt Stephano would've put up a good fight against both Squirtle and aLive, but to 'a much better fight' is abit much.
stuff & things
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 09 2012 11:59 GMT
#15797
On April 09 2012 20:32 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 20:12 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On April 09 2012 20:07 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


I dont agree that Stephano is a tier below the absolutle top he lost to MMA and Marineking in there best matchup and in Stephano´s worst. His lose against Nestea I feel he should have won but no shame it happend sometimes. Stephano did amasing top 6 is incredible. Even MMM and MKP lost 2 games where they got 2-0 they are a tier below the absolut top? ofcourse not.

Nahh Stephano proved he belong to the top of the sc2 scene. I consider Stephano a top 3 zerg rigth after Nestea and DRG.



how can you even say that? Just because he does well againt the top in a one weekend tourney there are still so many better zergs. He has to prove himself in code A imo. I feel like any code a korean can give stephano a run for his money.


he's on par with these zergs except DRG and Nestea

He did great this tourney but remember there have been tourney's fairly recently in which he failed to get out of open brackets. Stephano is good, yes, and likely the best foreigner. I believe he could do well in Code A/S but until he proves himself there, it's difficult to maintain these assertions.
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Latchy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia121 Posts
April 09 2012 12:02 GMT
#15798
So I'm a little confused, did Squirtle win or did Alive win? Are there two winners? Can someone please explain this to me.
"Screw with Nestea and you catch a Nes.T.D" - Tasteless
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#15799
On April 09 2012 20:07 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote:
On April 09 2012 18:55 Youtakenocandle wrote:
Ok event, not as great as previous IPL events imo. And sadly a boring winner, but IGN can't help that. The lack of western players made it less interesting too.


The foreign scene needs a superstar that demolishes koreans and shows the way, shows that it's possible to beat the top players. Stephano is on par with the majority of them but he's a tier below the absolute top still. Unfortunately the train is already starting to move and it feels like what we have is what we get when it comes to foreign players. If none of the existing players will step it up, it's very unlikely any newcomers will take such a huge leap it requires. At the moment it's steering towards SCBW all over again.


I dont agree that Stephano is a tier below the absolutle top he lost to MMA and Marineking in there best matchup and in Stephano´s worst. His lose against Nestea I feel he should have won but no shame it happend sometimes. Stephano did amasing top 6 is incredible. Even MMM and MKP lost 2 games where they got 2-0 they are a tier below the absolut top? ofcourse not.

Nahh Stephano proved he belong to the top of the sc2 scene. I consider Stephano a top 3 zerg rigth after Nestea and DRG.



Dat fanboyism.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
April 09 2012 12:10 GMT
#15800
On April 09 2012 21:02 Latchy wrote:
So I'm a little confused, did Squirtle win or did Alive win? Are there two winners? Can someone please explain this to me.

Everybody in the tournament get 2 chances.

So what happens is that:
- Alive hadn't lost a series yet.
- He lost the first series.
- He gets his second chance (Squirtle got his second chance after losing to NesTea but continuing in the losers bracket which he won after beating NesTea).
- They play a second series.
- Alive wins!
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