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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8581
BO3 still? ROFL what a joke.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8582
On April 09 2012 08:40 eviltomahawk wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.

Would you feel better if MMA died to Reavers instead?

It would feel so good
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8583
On April 09 2012 08:36 hstq wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:21 JJH777 wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:20 hstq wrote:
So good performace by Stephano, i loved how he didnt leave game early. He won against JYP, Curious, Bomber, all mid-code S.


Lol. No wonder people think Stephano is so good. JYP and Bomber both got eliminated early in Code A last season. Curious is bottom code s not mid.


You have no clue what you are talking about. This year in GSL S1, all in code S, JYP lost in group with DRG and Genuis - finalists of that season of code S?! Curious is in Code S for so long. got to RO16 in S1 .... Bomber is not that good in GSL, but he is doing so good in GSTL vs code S players, so he is top level korean too. All these are code S players for sure!


Bomber is really bad against Zerg, look at his game versus Stephano and Idara, he had practically no micro. Against Idra he had to presplit his marines, while good tvz players can split on the spot. He made it this far in this tourney based on the merit of his tvt with the one group play tvz he played against a foreigner and not winning by a wide margin.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8584
On April 09 2012 08:39 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
how can anyone complain about tvp right now? mma doesnt scout at all and thats what you get for it.


It's just boring to watch a match where there is one fight that decides the outcome of the entire game.
Masil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 23:41:51
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8585
It's like going back to classics. Recently, most high-level terrans are trying to counter the mass chargelot+fast upgrade build with early economic advantages and it wouldn't work against those 2 base colluosus build.

And MMA didn't scout what it's coming until it hits.

Be honest, be yourself.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8586
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


lol? Stephano can't beat either of those players, especially Squirtle. If you truly were a Stephano fan you would know that Stephano cannot beat Squirtle.
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8587
On April 09 2012 08:40 MCDayC wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:39 Pandain wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:38 Spiner wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.


I hope they remove it in HOTS and add a unit that requires more micro


If only there was such a unit in BW that did sick splash damage but required sick micro to use effectively.....
*thinks hard*
....
...
...

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oh well!

Crazyness. Madness. Such a unit can't exist!

lol, nice. no way this unit can exist, it would cause too much awesomeness
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kleetzor
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany360 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8588
ears...blood...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8589
On April 09 2012 08:40 dpurple wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:39 jjhchsc2 wrote:
wow mma's facial skin is so good.


lol what.


I know right...not a patch on Ace's
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8590
On April 09 2012 08:08 trinxified wrote:
Anyone not cheering for Squirtle is a MKP fan. Quite simple. Probably the same people asking for that re-game.


I want MMA to win because I <3 MMA
wellAdjusted
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom65 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8591
Uh oh war of the worlds just began.
"Rock is imba, but paper is ok..." - Scissors
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8592
Cats is such an excellent caster. Keep it up.
eXeHephaistas
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands144 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8593
On April 09 2012 08:39 Kettchup wrote:
It's really interesting how that one misblink by Squirtle against Nestea completely changed the tournament. Stephano would have had a Squirtle-Alive-Grand Final route instead of Nestea and MMA, would have been his tournament to lose at that point.


And you think he would win vs squirtle ezpz? :')
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8594
On April 09 2012 08:39 eYeball wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.


But you don't care about the colossus if MMA would win, just because your favourite player lost to a push it's retarded? :/


What are you on about? The colossus is one of the most poorly designed boring ass unit, I thought this was uncontested. There have been numerous polls, I think even one that Blizzard conducted lol.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8595
On April 09 2012 08:26 mordk wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:25 m0ck wrote:
Why is it so important to some people that the Koreans dominate everything? What is the payoff?

I much prefer the underdog-story of the talented few foreigners, who can stand up to the mass of Korean pro players. To each his own, i guess.

I've watched koreans so much I feel more attached to them than foreigners, plus add the fact that most of the metagame innovations and game progression comes from them, and that the best players in the world are koreans. Also, they put the largest amount of effort in starcraft, I like to see effort well rewarded.

Well, you're right on all accounts, although I want to add that both Thorzain and Stephano has made developments to the meta-game that changed the way SC2 is played in korea as well. I think the very best foreigners have distinctive qualities where they shine, also compared to the Koreans. But without a doubt, the best players are Korean, although I'm not ready to say that Stephano couldn't be one of them. Losing to the very best terrans is what zergs do, after all

On the other hand it is obviously true, that the best play is seen in the GSL. I watch it regularly, not least because I gamble quite a lot on SC2 matches, and they are often impressive (and often not). But I get the most excitement from the quick-and-dirty weekend tournaments, and I fear for those once the Korean dominance really sets in.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8596
On April 09 2012 08:36 PhoenixVoid wrote:
That two-base, two-Colossi with Thermal Lance is looking like a strong build vs Terrans.



Yep. Hit before/as Medivacs are starting to come out and before they get Vikings....



Is there a reason Terrans stopped doing the 1-1-1??
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
April 08 2012 23:41 GMT
#8597
On April 09 2012 08:39 Micket wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:37 PeggyHill wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:36 babybell wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:35 PeggyHill wrote:
This is a big shift in the PvT metagame, finally we know the proper response to terran 3 cc play

It's not like it's the most marvelously brilliant idea, it's been out since the beta practically.


Thats not the point, I mean we can now say that the proper response to the 3cc build is 2 base colo.

Ofc the build has been around for ages, but twlight/2 forge has been more dominant midgame pvt recently than colo.

MC vs MVP on Shakuras MLG Providence showed that 3 cc into double upgrades into 4 rax marine BUT with dilligent scouting has no problem beating 2 base colossus. MVP made lots of bunkers and had a huge concave and vikings.

It really depends of the map, and Squirtle hits earlier but with upgrades and blink.
I think his build just isn't figured out yet.
WriterMaru
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 08 2012 23:42 GMT
#8598
On April 09 2012 08:40 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:39 eYeball wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote:
Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.


But you don't care about the colossus if MMA would win, just because your favourite player lost to a push it's retarded? :/

Most Terran think it's stupid because you can't mech vP and it hardcounters bio.


Hell you can mech vP. Ever had a look at this?
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
April 08 2012 23:42 GMT
#8599
I don't know why but I just love CatsPajamas, both as caster and interviewer.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 08 2012 23:42 GMT
#8600
On April 09 2012 08:40 Promethelax wrote:
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On April 09 2012 08:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:34 Promethelax wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:30 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:29 Theeakoz wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:28 Sakkreth wrote:
On April 09 2012 08:25 Theeakoz wrote:
Poll: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competition

We only have Stephano none else. (84)
 
50%

Koreans are way ahead. (61)
 
36%

We're gotten better but not nearly there yet. (22)
 
13%

We there. (2)
 
1%

169 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competition

(Vote): We're gotten better but not nearly there yet.
(Vote): We there.
(Vote): We only have Stephano none else.
(Vote): Koreans are way ahead.



Stephano, HuK, NaNiWa.

Yes I think if Huk was in this trounament he would have done really well as too.

he was in the tourney. he got eliminated really early.


In a loser's final in the open bracket isn't all that early.

I would suggest that Sase, Thorzain and Illusion are also quite good we have less than ten quality players who are close to being on a level with the Koreans. I hope that eventually there will be good forgien players in the GSL on their own skill and making deep runs a la Jinro and Huk. Eventually we'll have a GSL winner, I hope.

its relative. if you dont get out of the open bracket, i consider that early.


Consider the open bracket though, he was top 16 out of 128 which included about half of code S, and Code A most of the top Foreign talent and a lot of no names some of whom it turns out are really good.
Decent enough point though, open bracket isn't its own tournament. But I still think Huk easily could have come out and, if he had, he would have done decently in groups.

again, i didnt say he didnt do well. i just consider the fact that he didnt make it out of open bracket getting eliminated really early. if you think not getting out of open bracket is not early then thats fine. its just semantics.
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