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On April 09 2012 08:35 MCDayC wrote: MMA played soooo greedy. 70 scvs vs 50 before Squirtle hit. And didnt scout/scan. Just outplayed like he usually is vs toss. It's like his mind doesnt work right when facing toss.
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MMA died because of no vikings, obvious.
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A scan could have spotted it, he got 3 oc but no scan, greedy play from mma.
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On April 09 2012 08:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:Can anyone give me brief summaries of the previous round? I was in the car (mma vs stephano, mkp vs squirtle) Much appreciated! MKP Squirtle : g1 : MKP 1rax FE, fast expo for P as well. MKP fast 3rd cc inbase. Squirtle hides 2 colossus and then pushes out with 6gates, MKP did not scout it so wasn't able to prepare accordingly (colossus on 2bases is great response against fast 3rd cc). Game 2 nexus first for Squirtle, 1rax reaper expo does 3 probes and 1zelot kill. Squirtle defends everything on 2bases whereas MKP 3rd cc again, MKP agressive but cant deal real dmg, he then dies trying to defend his third.
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Squirtle is bringing back 2 base collosus haha.
poor mkp and mma thinking its gonna be templar tech before collos. gotta scan around the 9--10 minute mark to be safe.
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Colossus timings have been in TvP forever and they've always been strong. Mana did it exclusively for about a year.
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I don't understand how pros randomly go a whole game without any scouting info.
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On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote: Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.
I hope they remove it in HOTS and add a unit that requires more micro
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On April 09 2012 08:36 Deserex wrote: With Stephano out.... go Squirtle. Protoss hero fighting! This.
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Is this thing really still going on? I went to dinner and went to bed with the stream on, and just woke up to the noise. I thought it's a rerun but it seems to be live?
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On April 09 2012 08:36 hstq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:21 JJH777 wrote:On April 09 2012 08:20 hstq wrote: So good performace by Stephano, i loved how he didnt leave game early. He won against JYP, Curious, Bomber, all mid-code S. Lol. No wonder people think Stephano is so good. JYP and Bomber both got eliminated early in Code A last season. Curious is bottom code s not mid. You have no clue what you are talking about. This year in GSL S1, all in code S, JYP lost in group with DRG and Genuis - finalists of that season of code S?! Curious is in Code S for so long. got to RO16 in S1 .... Bomber is not that good in GSL, but he is doing so good in GSTL vs code S players, so he is top level korean too. All these are code S players for sure!
and after that JYP failed to get through Code A. Curious lost 0-2 in ro16 last season and 0-2 again first round of this season averaging those results puts him bottom 8 of Code S. Not middle. Bomber winning bo1s doesn't make him code s level.
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On April 09 2012 08:36 hstq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:21 JJH777 wrote:On April 09 2012 08:20 hstq wrote: So good performace by Stephano, i loved how he didnt leave game early. He won against JYP, Curious, Bomber, all mid-code S. Lol. No wonder people think Stephano is so good. JYP and Bomber both got eliminated early in Code A last season. Curious is bottom code s not mid. You have no clue what you are talking about. This year in GSL S1, all in code S, JYP lost in group with DRG and Genuis - finalists of that season of code S?! Curious is in Code S for so long. got to RO16 in S1 .... Bomber is not that good in GSL, but he is doing so good in GSTL vs code S players, so he is top level korean too. All these are code S players for sure!
anyone can do good in bo1
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On April 09 2012 08:37 PeggyHill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:36 babybell wrote:On April 09 2012 08:35 PeggyHill wrote: This is a big shift in the PvT metagame, finally we know the proper response to terran 3 cc play It's not like it's the most marvelously brilliant idea, it's been out since the beta practically. Thats not the point, I mean we can now say that the proper response to the 3cc build is 2 base colo. Ofc the build has been around for ages, but twlight/2 forge has been more dominant midgame pvt recently than colo. Well since Squirtle never saw the hidden third, it seems he thinks that 2 base colossus is the proper to anything the terran is doing on two base
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On April 09 2012 08:34 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:30 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 09 2012 08:29 Theeakoz wrote:On April 09 2012 08:28 Sakkreth wrote:On April 09 2012 08:25 Theeakoz wrote:Poll: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competitionWe only have Stephano none else. (84) 50% Koreans are way ahead. (61) 36% We're gotten better but not nearly there yet. (22) 13% We there. (2) 1% 169 total votes Your vote: What do you think of the foreigner/korean competition (Vote): We're gotten better but not nearly there yet. (Vote): We there. (Vote): We only have Stephano none else. (Vote): Koreans are way ahead.
Stephano, HuK, NaNiWa. Yes I think if Huk was in this trounament he would have done really well as too. he was in the tourney. he got eliminated really early. In a loser's final in the open bracket isn't all that early. I would suggest that Sase, Thorzain and Illusion are also quite good we have less than ten quality players who are close to being on a level with the Koreans. I hope that eventually there will be good forgien players in the GSL on their own skill and making deep runs a la Jinro and Huk. Eventually we'll have a GSL winner, I hope.
I think, the EU scene is pretty deep. Guys like Happy, Kas, Feast, MaNa, Dimaga, Nerchio, ThorZain, Morrow, Sjow and so on can take games of most koreans (not all). There certainly the underdogs, but it is possible.
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On April 09 2012 08:37 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:36 MCDayC wrote:On April 09 2012 08:35 OOOOOOO_POTATO_HAHA wrote: PvT is so easy nowadays
awesome times as a Protoss ^_^ Not balance whining, but have you seen the winrates recently>? Most Terrans cheese or all in to avoid mid-to-lategame Protoss from what I see. Mhm, toss has had one "good" months in atound 12 months and that was Februar 2012, March lookied bad again lol.
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On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote: Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH.
But you don't care about the colossus if MMA would win, just because your favourite player lost to a push it's retarded? :/
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how can anyone complain about tvp right now? mma doesnt scout at all and thats what you get for it.
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On April 09 2012 08:38 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 08:37 elanobissen wrote: Collossus is such a dumb unit - how could Blizz not even come up with anything else than another retarded high dps splash dmg unit. SIGH. I hope they remove it in HOTS and add a unit that requires more micro
If only there was such a unit in BW that did sick splash damage but required sick micro to use effectively..... *thinks hard* .... ... ...
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What happened to the 8 minute scan at natural. If both gases are taken and theres a robo its 90% chance collosi off 2 base...
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