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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership.

This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc.

Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset.
(added page 174)

Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227)
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
April 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#5141
On April 07 2012 06:54 Eurekastreet wrote:
Won't be able to watch the whole thing tonight (bad timing for CET)...will VOD's be available tomorrow/in a few hours ? And if yes, where ?


I believe IPL won't be releasing timely VODs. Even if you paid $5
Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
April 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#5142
On April 07 2012 06:55 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:53 Mithridates wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.

If you think MKP was serious with that build you clearly dont know anything about starcraft


I know a lot more then you do and I'd be willing to put money on that. People said the same thing about Flashes style. Look where he's at now.

A very bold statement. SC2 is a game of hard counters and BW is not. IN sc2 you cant mass units that are weak against its hard counter. In this case 1-1 marines vs 3-3 collosus. Getting a factory at 20 minutes will never be viable.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
April 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#5143
On April 07 2012 06:46 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:45 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:31 Femari wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:28 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:28 Femari wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:26 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:11 Femari wrote:
I call bullshit on everything having to be in the GSL to mean something. You act like he's not beating Koreans. He beat DRG 5-2. He just got first in his group in GSL. He's doing well everywhere. He is obviously playing the best. You do not need to win a GSL to be playing the best at this moment.

The format of the GSL and the competition is what makes it more important than every other tournament. You have time to prepare for the GSL, time to prepare specifically for one opponent.

The GSL alone does not determine who the best person in SC2 is atm.

I don't think you can be called the best if you can't win a gsl.

In that regard, it does.

Bullshit.

GSL is not always going on. What happens during the downtime and someone's rolling over everyone? Do we just go "LOL THEY HAVENT WON A GSL THEYRE NOT THE BEST"? No. They're playing the best atm, therefore they are the best atm.


It's ultimately a meaningless title of the best when it's devoid of a GSL win.

It's like people calling Stephano the best player in the world. Yeah, he's ripping up foreign tournaments, but in a format like the GSL would he be as successful? I don't know.

Stephano wasn't playing the absolute best players in the world though.

Polt's great and all but I'd hesitate to put him top 10 in the world. MKP was ripping through MC and DRG like it was nothing.


I realize, but it's not just the best players but the fomat itself which is so important for it's prestige.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#5144
Cats(THE BEST CASTER IN THE WORLD!) and PainUser(The master of offensive cannons in TvP) get on main stage while Wolf and DoA who are both great casters in their own right but also have good chemistry get shafted to the sidelines...
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
April 06 2012 21:58 GMT
#5145
On April 07 2012 06:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:55 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money,



Do you seriously think that 12rax 25ghosts no starport against a 3base 5colossi protoss is a viable strategy?

MKP is known to pull off bullshit builds against foreigners he consider to be trash

First of all, he didn't now it was a 3base 3 robo collosi build. If he did, he would NEVER have done that build no matter what because it is an auto-lose army composition. It's like building only reapers against 3 base mass stalkers.


LOL 1/1 bio gets wrecked against any decent Protoss composition with AOE. So I guess MKP was anticipating a Adelscott-esque mass gateway push with upgrades out of White-Ra?


Only Collosi. Not even PartinG would be able to land a storm against MKP with 25 ghosts.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5146
On April 07 2012 06:56 Ripper41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:55 Sc2Null wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 bikefrog wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 Ripper41 wrote:
Guys, MKP won two MLG's. No one has ever done that! MLG is the most competitive tournament in the world. of course he is the best player.

Lol.



pretty sure huk won two mlg's

That was in the past, it doesn't count! the only tournys that count are the ones my subpar brain can remember!

Only results that matter are ones that deal with the current metagame.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 22:00:42
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5147
On April 07 2012 06:58 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:55 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money,



Do you seriously think that 12rax 25ghosts no starport against a 3base 5colossi protoss is a viable strategy?

MKP is known to pull off bullshit builds against foreigners he consider to be trash

First of all, he didn't now it was a 3base 3 robo collosi build. If he did, he would NEVER have done that build no matter what because it is an auto-lose army composition. It's like building only reapers against 3 base mass stalkers.


LOL 1/1 bio gets wrecked against any decent Protoss composition with AOE. So I guess MKP was anticipating a Adelscott-esque mass gateway push with upgrades out of White-Ra?

HTs and archons would have been RIPPED. 22 ghosts anyone?


Two good storms and MKP loses 90% of his army. So I guess MKP thinks White-Ra is some sort of scrub who can't control templar eh?

On April 07 2012 06:58 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:55 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money,



Do you seriously think that 12rax 25ghosts no starport against a 3base 5colossi protoss is a viable strategy?

MKP is known to pull off bullshit builds against foreigners he consider to be trash

First of all, he didn't now it was a 3base 3 robo collosi build. If he did, he would NEVER have done that build no matter what because it is an auto-lose army composition. It's like building only reapers against 3 base mass stalkers.


LOL 1/1 bio gets wrecked against any decent Protoss composition with AOE. So I guess MKP was anticipating a Adelscott-esque mass gateway push with upgrades out of White-Ra?


Only Collosi. Not even PartinG would be able to land a storm against MKP with 25 ghosts.


Any unit composition would have hurt MKP badly since he stopped at 1/1 for the rest of the game. His build was essentially structured like a timing push, but he never attacked.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5148
haha MKP wasn't happy about that.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4304 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5149
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.


What foreigners beat koreans in BW? lol...im not going into your other argument 'cause I kind of agree with you but that part about BW was just too much o.O
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5150
On April 07 2012 06:57 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:51 MrCon wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:48 FuTon wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.

MMA

Lose to Choya, Puma - best player in the world. Sounds about right.

MMA's achievements:
[image loading]

Looks about right to be a contender for best player in the world.


Boxer is the best broodwar player in the world by that logic.

I guess it would be less offensive for fanboys alike haters to call him the player with the current highest form.

No one else can compete with MMA for best player until MMA falls out of at least two tournaments against people he shouldnt or someone else wins this GSL and a couple of foreign tourneys. MKP has the foreign ones but if he can't at least come close to GSL champ there is no way he is best atm. At worst for MMA he is one of a group of best players and at best he is the sole best player right now. Dude needs to fix his TvP though.


MMA is by no mean the best player in the world.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5151
haha MKP swearing :D
Stork[gm]
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5152
DAT PROBE LOL
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5153
lol ninja-ra
I have no quote!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5154
LOL. MKP annoyed by losing his SCV.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5155
Haha.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5156
lol dat probe
Pokemon Master
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5157
w0ot. white-ra has got this now. scv kill ftw
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 22:00:05
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5158
MKP "shi bal"
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5159
Anyone see the look on MKP's face when they panned to him?
Xax
Profile Joined December 2003
475 Posts
April 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#5160
GO WHITERA
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