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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5181
On April 07 2012 06:59 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.


What foreigners beat koreans in BW? lol...im not going into your other argument 'cause I kind of agree with you but that part about BW was just too much o.O


White-Ra did well, so did kolll.
kiss kiss fall in love
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5182
On April 07 2012 06:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:58 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:57 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:55 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money,



Do you seriously think that 12rax 25ghosts no starport against a 3base 5colossi protoss is a viable strategy?

MKP is known to pull off bullshit builds against foreigners he consider to be trash

First of all, he didn't now it was a 3base 3 robo collosi build. If he did, he would NEVER have done that build no matter what because it is an auto-lose army composition. It's like building only reapers against 3 base mass stalkers.


LOL 1/1 bio gets wrecked against any decent Protoss composition with AOE. So I guess MKP was anticipating a Adelscott-esque mass gateway push with upgrades out of White-Ra?

HTs and archons would have been RIPPED. 22 ghosts anyone?


Two good storms and MKP loses 90% of his army. So I guess MKP thinks White-Ra is some sort of scrub who can't control templar eh?

How would he ever get off a storm? Do you even play Terran?

When you have 22 ghosts you can permanently spam EMPs on his army. Do you think that MKP is just some scrub who can't control ghosts?
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5183
Wow MKP's player cam.. got pissed off when ra's stalker killed the scouting scv
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 22:01:20
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5184
On April 07 2012 06:57 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:51 MrCon wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:48 FuTon wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 XiGua wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.

MMA

Lose to Choya, Puma - best player in the world. Sounds about right.

MMA's achievements:
[image loading]

Looks about right to be a contender for best player in the world.


Boxer is the best broodwar player in the world by that logic.

I guess it would be less offensive for fanboys alike haters to call him the player with the current highest form.

No one else can compete with MMA for best player until MMA falls out of at least two tournaments against people he shouldnt or someone else wins this GSL and a couple of foreign tourneys. MKP has the foreign ones but if he can't at least come close to GSL champ there is no way he is best atm. At worst for MMA he is one of a group of best players and at best he is the sole best player right now. Dude needs to fix his TvP though.


Just to check, you know the reason MKP has good foreign tournament wins lately and MMA doesn't is because MMA failed to even qualify for those foreign tournaments (losing to Lucky and Inca)...
Ripper41
Profile Joined July 2011
284 Posts
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5185
On April 07 2012 06:59 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:56 Ripper41 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:55 Sc2Null wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 bikefrog wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 Ripper41 wrote:
Guys, MKP won two MLG's. No one has ever done that! MLG is the most competitive tournament in the world. of course he is the best player.

Lol.



pretty sure huk won two mlg's

That was in the past, it doesn't count! the only tournys that count are the ones my subpar brain can remember!

Only results that matter are ones that deal with the current metagame.

And since the current metagame is always changing.... oh man

also you're logic is insane. metagame (as you're using the word) is just the common strategies. by your logic, I can create a unique build, win a game, and then become the worlds greatest player
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 06 2012 22:00 GMT
#5186
so far this looks like a pretty standard middle of the road build by MKP
blah blah blah...
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5187
MKP was rubbing his eyes earlier. Probably had a ridiculous flight schedule.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5188
On April 07 2012 06:58 Mithridates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:55 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Mithridates wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.

If you think MKP was serious with that build you clearly dont know anything about starcraft


I know a lot more then you do and I'd be willing to put money on that. People said the same thing about Flashes style. Look where he's at now.

A very bold statement. SC2 is a game of hard counters and BW is not. IN sc2 you cant mass units that are weak against its hard counter. In this case 1-1 marines vs 3-3 collosus. Getting a factory at 20 minutes will never be viable.


You can't really do something like that in BW too. -_-"
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2110 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5189
On April 07 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:55 RJGooner wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:53 Micket wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.

You have poor understanding of the game. Marineking is known to do trolly stuff. If you think he is 100% serious all the time, justify why he nuked his entire army vs Drewbie in a TvT and promptly lost. Justify no factory tech vs Protoss at 20 minute mark.


Then he's acting like a moron for doing this shit. I fail to see the point of making yourself play more games then you need to.


To you it makes him a moron. To his fans, it's him being who he is.

MVP was the standard solid play all game every game Terran - and MKP was the crowd favorite.


His image is that he can do non-standard builds and make them work. If we assume he was trolling that game, then it IS stupid because he is losing and he's making himself play more games than he needs to. The only other logical explanation is he actually thought the build would work.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5190
why you not play standard MKP T_T

why all in in your best matchup
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5191
It's not the hugest argument, but look at MKP's body language. He seems really nervous, I don't think he is/was "taking it easy" with WhiteRa.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 22:01:29
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5192
MKP going 1 base mmm.. really..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5193
Isn't just repairing the hurt scv with 2 others the safest response to the 1 hit from death scv being chased by a probe? That's embarrassing. MKP gonna crumble? I doubt it.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5194
Cats(THE BEST CASTER IN THE WORLD!) and PainUser(The master of offensive cannons in TvP) get on main stage while Wolf and DoA who are both great casters in their own right but also have good chemistry get shafted to the sidelines...

anyone else think this is a magnificent decision?

User was temp banned for this post.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5195
On April 07 2012 06:59 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.


What foreigners beat koreans in BW? lol...im not going into your other argument 'cause I kind of agree with you but that part about BW was just too much o.O

mondragon, draco, PJ
Stork[gm]
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5196
On April 07 2012 06:43 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:41 -TesteR- wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:39 Noocta wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:38 -_- wrote:
MKP's play is downright disrespectful. I think he'll lose this game because of it, but he doesn't consider WR a threat.


+1

I'm not amused by MKP doing this kind of troll builds.
Let me think he's arrogant enough to think he can win against foreigner by doing silly things.


MKP expression says that was in no way shape or form a troll build


It was.
You don't go 12 rax ghost without a factory before the 20min mark if you're not blantly trolling.

you could say the same thing about 3 reactor hellion in tvp, right?
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 22:02:27
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5197
On April 07 2012 06:59 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:44 vndods wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:43 Denzil wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:42 mitthrawn wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:41 Sc2Null wrote:
best player in the world? wtf?

name a contender for that title.


DRG NesTea MC MVP MMA

but here in the starcraft world if you win a tournament or 2 apparantly you're king

Now I know you're just an MKP hater. Must be tough to be an antifan nowadays when you can't see that was OBVIOUSLY not a serious build by MKP.


lol...

This is a tournament not ladder. MKP IS doing serious builds that he's practiced and has had success with otherwise he wouldn't risk it with so much money, respect, and reputation on the line.

Your comment falls into the same category as when foreigners beat Koreans in Brood War. "Oh, he didn't try that game" when in actuality he did.


What foreigners beat koreans in BW? lol...im not going into your other argument 'cause I kind of agree with you but that part about BW was just too much o.O


Not regularly but Ret took a game off Nada. Advokate took a game off Jaedong. Midas lost to some cheeser at a WCG, Androide beat Silent_Control at WCG the list goes on.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
April 06 2012 22:01 GMT
#5198
scorsese behind the camera i see
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10129 Posts
April 06 2012 22:02 GMT
#5199
nice FF ... come one White-rA!!!!!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Zuor
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland377 Posts
April 06 2012 22:02 GMT
#5200
Whitera's forcefields are fucking delicious.
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