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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8841
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?


This guy gets it.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8842
On April 08 2012 13:08 aHaTsc wrote:
So dumb, to anyone saying "OMG look mkp beat all these good people on startale so the regame is meaningless", it really isn't. Startale was FORCING Prime to put MKP up vs Parting and parting had his strategy prepared for marineking. His strategy worked and he beat marineking and then he had to do it again because of a shitty call by the refs (most likely just to appeal to the swarm of bronze-league fan boys who don't care about fairness in the crowd). So he failed to do it again since his strategy was already revealed and mkp barely etches out wins vs other startale players.

It's pretty easy to tell that Startale would've won if the refs made the right decision instead of just appealing to fans since no one else on Prime would've been able to beat Parting, bomber and Squirtle


I wish I was gifted with the foresight that you seem to possess.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8843
So apparently parting was only up 30 supply in the game where he was dropped? I mean, yeah, the chances that marineking was going to come back were very little, but i didn't see the drop, i assumed it was like 80 supply to 200 supply and all of marinekings stuff was dead. Also, the production that parting was killing was outside of marinekings natural, if marineking rallied his in-base production away from partings army and was able to gather up a pretty good force, he may have had a chance to come back. This is why he was awarded a regame.
Maruprime.
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8844
On April 08 2012 13:09 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:05 Clefairy wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:04 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Haha, so do they totally skip the interviews? Might be too afraid of the backfire.

Nah the interview girl didn't come to Las Vegas. They didn't plan any interview.


Eh? They had people more than capable, and several translators.


Smix is there, she does all the regular IPL interviews.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8845
On April 08 2012 13:08 MCMXVI wrote:
Congrats StarTale, the *real* GSTL S1 champions :D

lol. after losing all the games to MKP. not so impressive.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8846
On April 08 2012 13:08 lolmlg wrote:
lol @ people suggesting that a regame tainted the series. It's a regame, it's not like the referees gave an unfair ruling. If you're a Parting fan you probably think he had the game won, but the fact is that the game wasn't over yet. We saw SO MANY insane comebacks in this weekend, you can't just say that they should have awarded Parting the game when both players had tons of bases and supply. If MarineKing had forfeited the regame, then we could all sit here calling him a true gentleman. But first and foremost he's an e-sportsman and he came to win.


I am not a parting fan.

I am a fan of the spirit of competition.

Parting won. I could have beat MKP from his position and I don't even play protoss.

This entire finals is tainted because of that ruling.
theplagueman
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8847
Some relevant math I did:
149 supply for Parting vs 110 supply MKP
Parting:
79 Probes
Army:
70 supply - 4 observers - warp prism = 65 supply
6 stalkers = 12 supply
53 supply remaining
8 HTs x 2 = 16 supply
53 - 16 = 37 supply remaining
18 zealots ~ = 36 supply
Those are all things that Parting had ON THE FIELD.
MKP had 3 marauders and 6 vikings. 20 of his supply was in production - considering that by the time that production is on the field, parting will have another warp cycle off of 15 gates.... he would be almost 80 supply up in army by the time MKP came out.
As a top masters Protoss, I can say with 100% confidence that unless parting had an aneurism, and even then, MKP would have lost the game. I can respect the judge's decision, but as a player I would be FURIOUS to win a game vs another teams ace player in the finals of the most important team league in the world, and then be forced to re-game.
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8848
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?


lol yes!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8849
On April 08 2012 13:07 Kamwah wrote:
I find it funny that people can't see what's logically fair.

The rematch was the best option because while MKP was ahead most of the game, Parting was ahead when the network went down.

I just really can't see why people have such a problem with a rematch, if Parting was going to win then he would have won the rematch and we'd probably see Parting being the victors here.

But this is the internet I guess, where people can QQ and rage at each other and not just calmly discuss or agree to disagree.


Seriously, stupidest post. LOL.... OMG
Never!
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8850
On April 08 2012 13:07 Tzuborg wrote:
After seeing the two comebacks in the MKP vs Bomber match, there really is no way the game vs PartinG could not be re-done. The comeback factor here can simply not be ignored.

GG, WP, Foxer!


MKP had an army advantage in the Bomber match when Bomber thought he had it won, of course no one would be against a regame in that scenario. There was a clear route to victory for MKP, go and kill him really fast.

There was no route to victory in the Parting game. MKP had nothing.
FrodoAndTheSlobStix
Profile Joined September 2011
United States158 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8851
Every one shut up and get sucked off.

Here are the graphs of partin vs mkp game 1.

A clear parting win, think not? You decide?

http://i.imgur.com/eQRd4.jpg

Gt skd off fgts

User was temp banned for this post.
You eat meat? Then your evil. Simple as that.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8852
On April 08 2012 13:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:08 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 DystopiaX wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 iSunrise wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:03 Zerothegreat wrote:
HerO's Twitter:

‏ @Liquid_HerO


Poor StartaleQ, I'm pretty sure parting was almost win anyway congratulation Prime!

If even a pro calls it, why doubt him. I´m off to bed. Good night everyone. Sad ending of this day, but we will get over it, eventually.

The pro you mentioned happens to be Protoss too

Major isn't toss.

Major is so relevant.

Major is better than 99% of the people in this thread.

Cool, a player who plays this game for a living is better than spectators? Amazing, Unfathomable!
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8853
On April 08 2012 13:07 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:06 iSunrise wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:03 Zerothegreat wrote:
HerO's Twitter:

‏ @Liquid_HerO


Poor StartaleQ, I'm pretty sure parting was almost win anyway congratulation Prime!

If even a pro calls it, why doubt him. I´m off to bed. Good night everyone. Sad ending of this day, but we will get over it, eventually.

The pro you mentioned happens to be Protoss too

We all saw PartinG doing the impossible and killing everything from MKP. In exactly that moment the connection broke, strange, isn´t it? And HerO is a great player, why he should be biased when it´s not his team is beyond me.
Schizoe
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany4 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8854
On April 08 2012 13:08 lolmlg wrote:
lol @ people suggesting that a regame tainted the series. It's a regame, it's not like the referees gave an unfair ruling. If you're a Parting fan you probably think he had the game won, but the fact is that the game wasn't over yet. We saw SO MANY insane comebacks in this weekend, you can't just say that they should have awarded Parting the game when both players had tons of bases and supply. If MarineKing had forfeited the regame, then we could all sit here calling him a true gentleman. But first and foremost he's an e-sportsman and he came to win.



tell me how to kill 12 chargelots 6 stalkers 2 archons with 3 marauder 2 marines and 2 ghosts
jkang
Profile Joined May 2011
United States404 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8855
On April 08 2012 13:08 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

Not when he needs lost to parting nad got the cheek to ask for regame
you are retarded, it wasn't his decision.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13430 Posts
April 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#8856
On April 08 2012 13:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?


god no.


BLIND RAWR!! You've been upgraded to science vessel congrats :D its the best icon IMO such a cool looking icon.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Zheega
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia180 Posts
April 08 2012 04:11 GMT
#8857
On April 08 2012 13:07 Tzuborg wrote:
After seeing the two comebacks in the MKP vs Bomber match, there really is no way the game vs PartinG could not be re-done. The comeback factor here can simply not be ignored.

GG, WP, Foxer!

MKP vs Bomber was in no way a come-back. Bomber had less army supply by about 30%, also 4 less tanks. It wasn't even close.
And when MKP army attacked bomber there was no come-back possible, because MKP had a 50% army supply lead. Parting had an even bigger lead (about 90%).
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 08 2012 04:11 GMT
#8858
On April 08 2012 13:07 Kamwah wrote:
I find it funny that people can't see what's logically fair.

The rematch was the best option because while MKP was ahead most of the game, Parting was ahead when the network went down.

I just really can't see why people have such a problem with a rematch, if Parting was going to win then he would have won the rematch and we'd probably see Parting being the victors here.

But this is the internet I guess, where people can QQ and rage at each other and not just calmly discuss or agree to disagree.

"What's logically fair?" It's completely irrelevant that MKP was ahead most of the game. All that matters is that Parting would have won if there was no DC. If Player 1 is ahead 90% of the game, but then Player 2 manages to win in the end, it doesn't mean that Player 2 didn't deserve the win or that it wasn't fair - if anything it just makes the victory more impressive. The twisted logic MKP fanboys will use to try and justify an unfair decision.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 08 2012 04:11 GMT
#8859
On April 08 2012 13:10 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:07 Kamwah wrote:
I find it funny that people can't see what's logically fair.

The rematch was the best option because while MKP was ahead most of the game, Parting was ahead when the network went down.

I just really can't see why people have such a problem with a rematch, if Parting was going to win then he would have won the rematch and we'd probably see Parting being the victors here.

But this is the internet I guess, where people can QQ and rage at each other and not just calmly discuss or agree to disagree.


Seriously, stupidest post. LOL.... OMG


You call his post stupid? Look at yours. Holy shit. The toxicity just increases by every page.
secret - never again
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 08 2012 04:11 GMT
#8860
On April 08 2012 13:07 rothsbury wrote:
MKP shouldn't be celebrating like that imo... just seems to be rubbing a stolen win in Startale's faces.

It's only stolen if it's stolen. This wasn't.

Army values and blah blah aside, the outcome of that game was still not decided, even if Parting had just gained a significant advantage. You can't give him a win if he didn't actually win, and the only other option was a regame. The refs called it correctly, MKP won, and then went on to sweep the rest of ST. He has every reason to be happy.
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