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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8881
On April 08 2012 13:08 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:07 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 iSunrise wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:03 Zerothegreat wrote:
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Poor StartaleQ, I'm pretty sure parting was almost win anyway congratulation Prime!

If even a pro calls it, why doubt him. I´m off to bed. Good night everyone. Sad ending of this day, but we will get over it, eventually.

The pro you mentioned happens to be Protoss too

Obviously they have to be a protoss, how else can they judge the game. The point is that he's not on ST or Prime.

The point isn't what race he plays.

It's the oh so important little word 'almost'. By saying that Tyler aggrees that MKP had a chance of a comeback. That's why there was a regame. It was probably right on the edge though, which is why no matter what they did (regame or parting win) it would be bad for everyone. That doesn't mean it wasn't the right decision.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8882
On April 08 2012 13:07 Kamwah wrote:
I find it funny that people can't see what's logically fair.

The rematch was the best option because while MKP was ahead most of the game, Parting was ahead when the network went down.

I just really can't see why people have such a problem with a rematch, if Parting was going to win then he would have won the rematch and we'd probably see Parting being the victors here.

But this is the internet I guess, where people can QQ and rage at each other and not just calmly discuss or agree to disagree.


MKP was ahead but it wasn't near the level that Parting was ahead when the DC happened

Parting was ahead in worker count and had a significant army supply advantage and was also destroying MKP's production buildings. MKP never got to the point of destroying Parting's production buildings in Game 1.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8883
On April 08 2012 13:09 MaNaVoId wrote:
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On April 08 2012 13:08 Xarles wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:02 sirreginold wrote:
People should hate on the GomTV refs and Blizzard not on MKP. He just played his games out after the terrible decision made by the refs.

Lol...
GomTV should change their format so it doesn't become redundant when you defeat another team.
StarTale got another BO9, MKP got another BO1.
You tell me which is more fair.


since when is having 3 marauders vs 16zealots and 6 templars and 6 stalkers a possibility? Terran would have to be imba to the max to do that.

The fact that MKP was in just as bad, if not worst situations in his next 2 games against Bomber and Squirtle, and still somehow pulled out a win, shows that he can make it a possibility.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8884
Why aren't we attacking Blizzard for causing this entire situation?
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Argolis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada211 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8885
If you are so good at the game, that when you almost lose a game, it automatically disconnects from the server for you ..... Youuuuuuuuuu might a bonjwa!
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8886
On April 08 2012 13:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?

mkp is damn good. but if he is the first bonjwa, that term really doesnt mean much.


I dont think its possible to be a bonjwa in sc2
Branmatt
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States66 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8887
People are now just calling MKP a bad player in the stream chat because of the rematch. Seriously? I mean, you got an extra game, and it wasn't his fault his Internet was bad.

Besides, if MKP is apparently so bad that he disconnected the Internet himself, how come he went on to beat a few other guys in a row without rematches?
Lozos
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8888
Parting beat MKP, everything after that doesn't count.
Keith > Piglet
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
April 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#8889
On April 08 2012 13:11 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:07 Kamwah wrote:
I find it funny that people can't see what's logically fair.

The rematch was the best option because while MKP was ahead most of the game, Parting was ahead when the network went down.

I just really can't see why people have such a problem with a rematch, if Parting was going to win then he would have won the rematch and we'd probably see Parting being the victors here.

But this is the internet I guess, where people can QQ and rage at each other and not just calmly discuss or agree to disagree.

"What's logically fair?" It's completely irrelevant that MKP was ahead most of the game. All that matters is that Parting would have won if there was no DC. If Player 1 is ahead 90% of the game, but then Player 2 manages to win in the end, it doesn't mean that Player 2 didn't deserve the win or that it wasn't fair - if anything it just makes the victory more impressive. The twisted logic MKP fanboys will use to try and justify an unfair decision.

He's saying that MKP was ahead right up to where he disconnected and Parting became ahead. Perhaps MKP would have gotten ahead again. But I understand what you're trying to say. That attack was most likely game ending, I would say 70% Parting would have won right there if I had to give a number
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8890
On April 08 2012 13:11 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:10 Kettchup wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Tzuborg wrote:
After seeing the two comebacks in the MKP vs Bomber match, there really is no way the game vs PartinG could not be re-done. The comeback factor here can simply not be ignored.

GG, WP, Foxer!


MKP had an army advantage in the Bomber match when Bomber thought he had it won, of course no one would be against a regame in that scenario. There was a clear route to victory for MKP, go and kill him really fast.

There was no route to victory in the Parting game. MKP had nothing.

Except about 10+ production buildings in his base and superior micro. But we'll leave that out I guess.


Yea and even with one full production cycle his army is still inferior to Parting's.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8891
On April 08 2012 13:10 Schizoe wrote:
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On April 08 2012 13:08 lolmlg wrote:
lol @ people suggesting that a regame tainted the series. It's a regame, it's not like the referees gave an unfair ruling. If you're a Parting fan you probably think he had the game won, but the fact is that the game wasn't over yet. We saw SO MANY insane comebacks in this weekend, you can't just say that they should have awarded Parting the game when both players had tons of bases and supply. If MarineKing had forfeited the regame, then we could all sit here calling him a true gentleman. But first and foremost he's an e-sportsman and he came to win.



tell me how to kill 12 chargelots 6 stalkers 2 archons with 3 marauder 2 marines and 2 ghosts


It wasn't like MKP had 15 barracks making units.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8892
On April 08 2012 13:10 Schizoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:08 lolmlg wrote:
lol @ people suggesting that a regame tainted the series. It's a regame, it's not like the referees gave an unfair ruling. If you're a Parting fan you probably think he had the game won, but the fact is that the game wasn't over yet. We saw SO MANY insane comebacks in this weekend, you can't just say that they should have awarded Parting the game when both players had tons of bases and supply. If MarineKing had forfeited the regame, then we could all sit here calling him a true gentleman. But first and foremost he's an e-sportsman and he came to win.



tell me how to kill 12 chargelots 6 stalkers 2 archons with 3 marauder 2 marines and 2 ghosts

The majority of people that comment in the SC2 forums actually don't play SC2. Keep that in mind when reading posts.
"let your freak flag fly"
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8893
On April 08 2012 13:11 Disengaged wrote:
I love the Startale tears.

They taste so damn good!
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HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 04:14:05
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8894
On April 08 2012 13:12 Nick_54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:08 MCMXVI wrote:
Congrats StarTale, the *real* GSTL S1 champions :D


No matter how many times you or other people post shit like this in the thread it will not change the result. MKP played great, won the regame, and the next 3 games. Prime won based fair and square based on the system and rules of the game and the tournament.

Marineking had to regame against Stephano yesterday and lost it but won the series. If ST was really the better team they would've overcome the setback.


LOL MAN, everyone know this, but the problem is, HE LOST THE FIRST GAME AND WITHOUT MKP WHO CAN BEAT PARTING, SQUIRTLE, BOMBER, CURIOUS?? WHO? CREATOR IS GOOD BUT NOT LIKE MKP.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8895
Kinda cool to see MKP finally playing like he has on ladder for 2 years now at about 75% win ratio. If he keeps it up this is his year and yes first B...
MC for president
Bycoja
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany14 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8896
going to sleep @6am in germany now after this amazing series
mkp truely proving that hes incredibly skillfull
When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8897
On April 08 2012 13:11 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?


You might want to figure out what that term means. Also winning a GSL is actually kind of important if you want to get that label

This. Still too early to call him a bonjwa. We need consistency and dominance. FOR AT LEAST A YEAR!
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vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8898
On April 08 2012 13:12 nakedsurfer wrote:
I don't care so much about the controversal re-game since MKP still had to beat bomber,squirtle and curious.
I think the lack of cheering from the crowd bothers me more. Even though it looked like a full event, the crowd didn't sound all that loud.

Crowd wasn't miced properly.
Delinius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8899
Parting wasn't ahead enough to secure a win, and MKP was still reinforcing with a similar worker count with over a dozen racks across his side of the map. People fail to realize protoss units warp in seconds while barracks take 10x longer.

Congrats MarineKing and Prime!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#8900
On April 08 2012 13:10 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:08 aHaTsc wrote:
So dumb, to anyone saying "OMG look mkp beat all these good people on startale so the regame is meaningless", it really isn't. Startale was FORCING Prime to put MKP up vs Parting and parting had his strategy prepared for marineking. His strategy worked and he beat marineking and then he had to do it again because of a shitty call by the refs (most likely just to appeal to the swarm of bronze-league fan boys who don't care about fairness in the crowd). So he failed to do it again since his strategy was already revealed and mkp barely etches out wins vs other startale players.

It's pretty easy to tell that Startale would've won if the refs made the right decision instead of just appealing to fans since no one else on Prime would've been able to beat Parting, bomber and Squirtle


I wish I was gifted with the foresight that you seem to possess.

the worst part is, he's right

Prime either have to PvP parting out or send up a terran and you choose between MKP or Byun either was fine but they were forcing MKPs hand
his strategy was to beat MKP the reason he lost the 2nd game was MKP was wiser to it, and parting fucked up his force fields his FFs in game 1 were close to perfect
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