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HGurryp
275 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 vndods wrote: Then why did he continue to play? If he had lost he should have been out and unable to play the remainder of the games. because one nice decision for regame, with 3 marauder against 18 zealots 3 archons, 6 stalker and 6 ht | ||
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Probasaur
United States461 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:05 JJH777 wrote: it's true. He does it after like every match now. Even ones that are barely important. It's dumb. He doesn't. He did it at the end of Winter Championship and now here. And maybe some other really important matches in between like code-S. And you can believe he'll do it tomorrow if he wins IPL4 as well. And you're a fool to think its an act. That level of raw emotion in his face and body language is so amazingly powerful. If you can look at that and not see true happiness then youre dead inside. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:13 Delinius wrote: Parting wasn't ahead enough to secure a win, and MKP was still reinforcing with a similar worker count with over a dozen racks across his side of the map. People fail to realize protoss units warp in seconds while barracks take 10x longer. Congrats MarineKing and Prime! that defends the parting won argument because if 16 zealots 6 stalkers and 8 templar against a production cycle and then on top of that the warp prism ready to warp in 13 odd zealots in the main production means 2 production cycles to 1 in favour of parting | ||
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GodZo
Italy224 Posts
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Robson13
United Kingdom248 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:13 Delinius wrote: Parting wasn't ahead enough to secure a win, and MKP was still reinforcing with a similar worker count with over a dozen racks across his side of the map. People fail to realize protoss units warp in seconds while barracks take 10x longer. Congrats MarineKing and Prime! Parting was on top of half of his production and he had spent his bank, he had lost | ||
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JiPrime
Canada688 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 FrodoAndTheSlobStix wrote: Every one shut up and get sucked off. Here are the graphs of partin vs mkp game 1. A clear parting win, think not? You decide? http://i.imgur.com/eQRd4.jpg Gt skd off fgts Nice photoshop there. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 duct_TAPE wrote: When protoss (or any race for that matter) get ontop of terran production facilities and have enough army to kill off the single file units streaming out the game is over. Judging by their army positions when Marineking lost his whole army, he was dead, absolutely dead. It was too close to his production facilities to make a new army in time. Except, Parting was on 3 barracks, not "the entire terran production facilities" | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 Robson13 wrote: Parting was on top of half of his production and he had spent his bank, he had lost 3 is half of ~15. This is news to me. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:11 MaNaVoId wrote: You think the referees did not consult the opinions of the teams, on the stream we saw the referees discussing with the teams? He certainly could have turned it down like how bomber did when he was given a free win after a game vs mana when he was certainly going to win, this shows the differences between prime and startale in the integrity of their playeers. lol no the ref's don't consult the teams... are you insane? Here's how it would go if they consulted the teams... Prime coach:Game wasn't over REGAME NOOW! ST Coach: WTF He won give us win! And in all of this if you think MKP has a choice in it you sir are quite frankly a retard... Again I will say it... Yea Parting 95% likely won the first game... Shitty situation goes to a regame and MKP wins, How the fuck does one blame MKP for this? Honestly! | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 rothsbury wrote: "We've seen lots of comebacks" does not imply that a comeback is possible in ANY situation, just as "MKP is good at comebacks" does not imply that MKP can come back in ANY situation. Just stupid, stupid logic. People at some level realise that if they analysed the MKP v Parting game then it is a clear parting win, so they ignore that game and point to a bunch of other games that involved comebacks instead. MarineKing could have comeback that game, it would be unlikely, but it seemed the referees didn't think it would be unlikely enough to award a win, which I understand. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
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Desiato
Canada185 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:12 Femari wrote: Why aren't we attacking Blizzard for causing this entire situation? I don't think anyones forgotten Blizzard, it's just that no one has any faith that they'll implement anything to fix it until HOTS is out. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:12 Fubi wrote: The fact that MKP was in just as bad, if not worst situations in his next 2 games against Bomber and Squirtle, and still somehow pulled out a win, shows that he can make it a possibility. The difference is in the game against Bomber he had the superior army for pretty much the entire game, just way behind in workers. The game against Squirtle he had a few medivacs which made all the difference. Parting was targetting down medivacs all game, the match was over. Congrats to Prime, they were my liquibet. Though I do think Parting should've taken that match, and it would've been nice to see how it went if that had all gone differently. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:06 KubricksMcGuffin wrote: DEAR BLIZZARD, SUCK MY DICK AND FUCK YOU. ESPECIALLY DUSTIN BROWDER AND THAT LONG-HAIRED WEASEL WHO CALLS HIMSELF A "DESIGN" LEAD DESPITE HIS CLEAR DYSFUNCTION WITH THE CONCEPT OF DESIGN, ESPECIALLY IN CONSIDERATION OF WHAT HE REGARDS AS A PROPER SELF-PRESENTATION. YOU LONG-HAIR STUCK-IN-THE-80'S-METAL-LOVING-FUCK. Haha, just kidding. MKP owns all the fuckfaces in the world complaining about disconnects. MKP-Prime-Blizzard conspiracy confirmed. Get fucked. User was banned for this post. That post just made me cry in laughter. Oh god, can't believe someone got so worked up at this. We still need LAN, and for the GOM/Blizzard exclusivity deal to go down. If Blizzard wants to overtake LoL in Korea, they have to permit a KeSPA SC2 league. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 Denzil wrote: that defends the parting won argument because if 16 zealots 6 stalkers and 8 templar against a production cycle and then on top of that the warp prism ready to warp in 13 odd zealots in the main production means 2 production cycles to 1 in favour of parting 6 vikings shoot down a warp prism pretty fast i hear. | ||
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DivinitySC2
United States244 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:13 Havik_ wrote: MKP bonjwa?? HAHAHAAHA!! I guess that makes MVP, NesTea, MC, MMA, Leenock, and DRG bonjwas too then. You can't dominate for a month or 2 and be bonjwa. The Bonjwas stay at their peak elo/winrates for at least a year. If MKP is in the top 3 of everything he enters for the next year or so, maybe you can call him Bonjwa. MKP has been dominating since GSL season 2, he has 5+ second place finishes in code S/A and numerous tourneys and recently he has 10+ 1st place finishes in numerous tournaments also. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:10 theplagueman wrote: Some relevant math I did: 149 supply for Parting vs 110 supply MKP Parting: 79 Probes Army: 70 supply - 4 observers - warp prism = 65 supply 6 stalkers = 12 supply 53 supply remaining 8 HTs x 2 = 16 supply 53 - 16 = 37 supply remaining 18 zealots ~ = 36 supply Those are all things that Parting had ON THE FIELD. MKP had 3 marauders and 6 vikings. 20 of his supply was in production - considering that by the time that production is on the field, parting will have another warp cycle off of 15 gates.... he would be almost 80 supply up in army by the time MKP came out. As a top masters Protoss, I can say with 100% confidence that unless parting had an aneurism, and even then, MKP would have lost the game. I can respect the judge's decision, but as a player I would be FURIOUS to win a game vs another teams ace player in the finals of the most important team league in the world, and then be forced to re-game. hmm 200 minerals 500 gas on protoss, not exactly full production | ||
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:14 antilyon wrote: You seem to be just quoting reddit so I'll post the same thing I post there: The keypoint here is if MKP had no chance at all, counting warp cycles, Parting's units positions, time until MKP's next cycle come out, how much space MKP had to regroup. You can only know this if you had access to the replay. If counting all of these factors, MKP had any chance at all for coming back they had to do a regame or else they would be changing their own rules. Why do you have to replay if MKP has any chance at coming back. If MKP only has a 5% chance to comeback in that game why should he be given an entirely new game, giving him atleast a 50/50 chance of winning. I don't see how a re-game is fair in this situation. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
I strongly believe that Parting was in a winning position, and making it a regame completely shattered STQ's chances of "getting back" into the series (I know, they were up at the point of the disconnect), as Parting was probably crushed mentally after the decision was made to regame, and obviously STQ are not pleased (to say the least) with the decision. Not to mention that the regame happened on the same map that Prime/MKP had chosen to kill Parting on (unless I'm misinformed). A terrible shame that this had to happen to the GSTL FINALS. Also, please do not blame MarineKing. It is not his business deciding whether to regame or not. It's to win, and that he did. Congratulations Prime, for winning the GSTL! | ||
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