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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 31 2012 06:25 GMT
#421
On March 31 2012 15:21 Havik_ wrote:
So why do people say Mech is bad vs Protoss?? Tanks rape everything. Not saying tanks are imba, but they're really good.

Chargelots and bust.

Blink counters and bust.

Immortals and bust.


Mech is HARD countered with any composition past midgame and easily countered midgame with good scouting and sensible decisions. It works for timings before charge/blink/enough Immortals, but it's not a stable long term strategy.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 31 2012 06:25 GMT
#422
On March 31 2012 15:25 GenesisX wrote:
MVP_PILAHLE


^ hahahaha yeh I heard that exact "word" too!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
March 31 2012 06:25 GMT
#423
On March 31 2012 15:24 MegaFonzie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Doesn't matter to me if the Protoss player fucked up against the meching Terran player. Seeing such an unorthodox build always gives me nerd-tingles whenever I see it.

I don't care if it's terrible or not viable or any of that jazz. It looks cool.


This. I'm sure Sound's strategy wasn't cross fingers and hope that Tails fucks up, he must've had some good results in practice with it. Either way, I got to see a totally new protoss opener and a really whacky TvP build, so I'm pretty damn happy with that game.

Wait a second... A positive attitude about the game? ^^
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 31 2012 06:25 GMT
#424
On March 31 2012 15:24 goswser wrote:
That build actually looked really good, the hellions and marines would make it decent vs immortals too.

Looks like a really good 2 base build, i just dont see it viable if you want a third since you spread you self to thin for counterattacks
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
March 31 2012 06:25 GMT
#425
On March 31 2012 15:24 goswser wrote:
That build actually looked really good, the hellions and marines would make it decent vs immortals too.

How are hellions good against Immortals? They took forever to kill those stalkers.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#426
On March 31 2012 15:21 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:19 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Tails totally botched this

Gee how silly of him for not reacting perfectly against a style no one has ever seen before.

nah i mean his over-extension chasing away the first army, with the initial army, if he set up a flank attack, he can take it.

btw, are u THE goswser?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 06:27:38
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#427
People saying that mech is viable in Protoss need to watch more games. Other than 1/1/1, the MMA 3 siege-tank for defense of 2nd expo or odd timing builds (where you either win the game or transition out into MMM), it is easily countered and/or MMM is a lot better.

If the Protoss knows you're going for a mid to late game mech army, they just mass up on Immortals and charge-lots and lols over your 200/200 army.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#428
On March 31 2012 15:25 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:24 MegaFonzie wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Doesn't matter to me if the Protoss player fucked up against the meching Terran player. Seeing such an unorthodox build always gives me nerd-tingles whenever I see it.

I don't care if it's terrible or not viable or any of that jazz. It looks cool.


This. I'm sure Sound's strategy wasn't cross fingers and hope that Tails fucks up, he must've had some good results in practice with it. Either way, I got to see a totally new protoss opener and a really whacky TvP build, so I'm pretty damn happy with that game.

Wait a second... A positive attitude about the game? ^^


Aww shit, i must be lost. I was looking for the LR thread :<
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#429
I know I'm late to the party, but that was a great build by tails XD
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#430
I just find it funny when people say mech is so bad vs Protoss. Tanks give me so much trouble its ridiculous. What I think Terran may do in the future is do the same MMM ball with a couple tanks mixed in. Just a couple tanks create so many problems.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
March 31 2012 06:26 GMT
#431
On March 31 2012 15:25 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:24 goswser wrote:
That build actually looked really good, the hellions and marines would make it decent vs immortals too.

How are hellions good against Immortals? They took forever to kill those stalkers.


they are good if your opponent throws half his army into a meatgrinder of tanks in the middle of the map.
The Show of a Lifetime
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 06:27:41
March 31 2012 06:27 GMT
#432
On March 31 2012 15:26 pdd wrote:
People saying that mech is viable in Protoss need to watch more games. Other than 1/1/1, the MMA 3 siege-tank into 3-expo or odd timing builds, it is easily countered and MMM is a lot better.

If the Protoss knows you're going for a mid to late game mech army, they just mass up on Immortals and charge-lots and lols over your 200/200 army.

Thor/Cloaked banshee/marine allin had its moments 2 months ago or so as well


On March 31 2012 15:25 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:24 goswser wrote:
That build actually looked really good, the hellions and marines would make it decent vs immortals too.

How are hellions good against Immortals? They took forever to kill those stalkers.

The hellions just buffer damage at that point in the game. keeping his tanks alive
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 31 2012 06:27 GMT
#433
On March 31 2012 15:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:13 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:12 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:09 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
subways in japan. always make sure you are standing behind a cute girl. its not sexual harassment if other people are pushing you in to her.


That is some dubious, but mildly educational advice

Is this country-specific?

i have only done it in japan, because they are super crowded there.

another educational note: NEVER stand by an old lady. because when you get in their way they will run your ass down. and they are small, and go for the back of the knees. seriously.

cute girls = yes
old ladies = no


cute girls --- yes
old ladies --- no


Think I should be able to remember that. It fits fairly well in my general borderline-sexual-harassment-policy

next 30 minute downtime, i will teach you about the salarymen, but now i must focus on pvt.


Can't wait

okay. for salarymen, if its around 5-6 pm, they are relatively fine. 6-8, stay away, they are kinda smelly (think sweat from too much work). 8-11, they've been drinking, so theyll be reddish and smell like booze. after 11-close of trains, stay the fuck away. they will puke on you. they are like chimpanzees with feces. they will throw that shit, and you will get messy.



Man, you are full of wisdom. Maybe you should write a book...or even better...start a cult or something where you dress up in weird robes. Cult-leaders always get a pass on the sexual harassment too

But on a serious note, is it true that people in Japan drink a shitton? I know someone in Japan and he always gets shitfaced after his 12 hour work shift :p
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 06:29:03
March 31 2012 06:28 GMT
#434
On March 31 2012 15:27 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:26 pdd wrote:
People saying that mech is viable in Protoss need to watch more games. Other than 1/1/1, the MMA 3 siege-tank into 3-expo or odd timing builds, it is easily countered and MMM is a lot better.

If the Protoss knows you're going for a mid to late game mech army, they just mass up on Immortals and charge-lots and lols over your 200/200 army.

Thor/Cloaked banshee/marine allin had its moments 2 months ago or so as well


Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:25 McFeser wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:24 goswser wrote:
That build actually looked really good, the hellions and marines would make it decent vs immortals too.

How are hellions good against Immortals? They took forever to kill those stalkers.

The hellions just buffer damage at that point in the game. keeping his tanks alive

It's the one of the odd timing builds I referred to. If you don't kill the Protoss, you're not going to be able to get that army back up before you lose.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
March 31 2012 06:28 GMT
#435
I don't understand how people can say its a bad strategy. Sound clearly prepared the build and practiced it to snipe, if he didn't think it were extremely strong, he wouldn't have done it.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
March 31 2012 06:29 GMT
#436
Bah they should just be streaming the korean video with english audio. such a waste.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
March 31 2012 06:29 GMT
#437
On March 31 2012 15:26 Havik_ wrote:
I just find it funny when people say mech is so bad vs Protoss. Tanks give me so much trouble its ridiculous. What I think Terran may do in the future is do the same MMM ball with a couple tanks mixed in. Just a couple tanks create so many problems.

Yeah a few tanks mixed in is probably good, but straight up meching is not.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
March 31 2012 06:30 GMT
#438
On March 31 2012 15:28 goswser wrote:
I don't understand how people can say its a bad strategy. Sound clearly prepared the build and practiced it to snipe, if he didn't think it were extremely strong, he wouldn't have done it.

Platinums on the forums know more about this game than professionals. Didn't you hear?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 31 2012 06:30 GMT
#439
On March 31 2012 15:27 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 15:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:13 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:12 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:09 Lann555 wrote:
On March 31 2012 15:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
subways in japan. always make sure you are standing behind a cute girl. its not sexual harassment if other people are pushing you in to her.


That is some dubious, but mildly educational advice

Is this country-specific?

i have only done it in japan, because they are super crowded there.

another educational note: NEVER stand by an old lady. because when you get in their way they will run your ass down. and they are small, and go for the back of the knees. seriously.

cute girls = yes
old ladies = no


cute girls --- yes
old ladies --- no


Think I should be able to remember that. It fits fairly well in my general borderline-sexual-harassment-policy

next 30 minute downtime, i will teach you about the salarymen, but now i must focus on pvt.


Can't wait

okay. for salarymen, if its around 5-6 pm, they are relatively fine. 6-8, stay away, they are kinda smelly (think sweat from too much work). 8-11, they've been drinking, so theyll be reddish and smell like booze. after 11-close of trains, stay the fuck away. they will puke on you. they are like chimpanzees with feces. they will throw that shit, and you will get messy.



Man, you are full of wisdom. Maybe you should write a book...or even better...start a cult or something where you dress up in weird robes. Cult-leaders always get a pass on the sexual harassment too

But on a serious note, is it true that people in Japan drink a shitton? I know someone in Japan and he always gets shitfaced after his 12 hour work shift :p

knowledge bombs must wait. pvt is on. and my pvt is lacking. pvp and pvz as well, but they arent on now.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 31 2012 06:30 GMT
#440
Sorry but where is this played ? :o
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