• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:17
CEST 17:17
KST 00:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence6Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups3WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1200 users

[IPL] FC12: HerO vs viOLet - Page 14

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 Next All
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#261
violet is guuuud
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Mooster
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada43 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#262
GG violet, well played! :D
Turquoise
Profile Joined August 2011
Turkey145 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#263
Yay Violet!

Good series.
Here's looking at you, kid.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:11:39
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#264
Both played very well, congrats to viOLet!
Does anyone know why hero doesn't use warp prism's as much anymore? He seems to be using more proxy pylons and less warp prisms, are pylons better because they are so cheap?
The night is dark and full of Terrans
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#265
Really not a fan of lategame PvZ.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#266
Wow violet, simply wow....GSL, plz plz plz give him a code S seed
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#267
gg! Grats to violet for this big win, looking forward to seeing who violet will play next.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#268
Congratulations Violet!
Nice games over the past weeks from HerO, I was impressed by how many he won.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:10:35
March 04 2012 04:10 GMT
#269
Hero prob expected a 4-5 base maxing on broodlords, I think that push surprised him. Nice timing there by violet!
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
March 04 2012 04:10 GMT
#270
nice series. both played really good
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
March 04 2012 04:11 GMT
#271
QQ that hero lost, though it was close and a good win by violet

now if only lategame PvZ was easier for my weary eyes to watch BLinfestor so strong and slow and indestructible....reminds me of PvT in bw with the terran 200/200 ball of "i will kill you trololololol"
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
March 04 2012 04:18 GMT
#272
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
March 04 2012 04:20 GMT
#273
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.


You gotta do what terran does. Don't let them tech up to broodlords.
Anubit3Blad3
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2 Posts
March 04 2012 04:30 GMT
#274
Congrats to Violet, I really thought that Hero would've won this one.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
March 04 2012 04:35 GMT
#275
Zerg it is!!!!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:39:12
March 04 2012 04:38 GMT
#276
People are whining about lategame PvZ when hero basically mothershipped his way to like 2523 PvZ wins that way? Can't even remember the last time Hero lost in the late game. Every good zerg just takes advantage of the fact that hero pretty much likes to play only macro style games and it makes it really predictable.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#277
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.


You go 2 base colossi, similar to Hero's build on Shattered although the situation was different there. Problem is with ffe you can't reliably scout until you've chosen at least the beginnings of your build, so it becomes a guessing game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
March 04 2012 04:50 GMT
#278
damn pretty depressing week for PvZ. I mean ViOlet is sick good and has lots of talent but Hero has been grinding games from the start and everything about HerO is pushing protoss to the limit and evidently the current limit just isn't good enough ;(
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2012 05:33 GMT
#279
On March 04 2012 13:09 Funguuuuu wrote:
Both played very well, congrats to viOLet!
Does anyone know why hero doesn't use warp prism's as much anymore? He seems to be using more proxy pylons and less warp prisms, are pylons better because they are so cheap?


My guess would be that warp prism production cuts into immortal and collosus production, both of which are crucial for PvZ.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#280
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.



I think the key is the mid game. Hero did not pressure the zerg enough and allowed zerg doing whatever they want. Even zerg did not build a lot of attacking units in mid game. Toss still needs to build a lot of attacking units to hold his 3rd base.
And voilet's playstyle is so wired, he stayed 3 bases versus 3 bases. I could not understand how that works even though I know what they are doing there. Hero did not see what we saw there, it was hard for him to read what voilet was aiming for.

I think the best way for a toss to read what the zerg is doing is to get aggressive. That is why although Hero is able to show us brilliant pvz all the time, I still think Mc's playstyle makes more sense. Get aggressive in the mid game before you play a marco game against a zerg.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #225
iHatsuTV 34
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Creator 193
ProTech86
Codebar 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9533
Hyuk 4462
Rain 4307
Flash 2532
Bisu 2398
GuemChi 2304
Horang2 1477
Zeus 1380
PianO 1304
EffOrt 1300
[ Show more ]
BeSt 739
Mini 644
hero 247
ZerO 236
Soulkey 152
Snow 137
Backho 116
ggaemo 111
Aegong 105
Hyun 88
Mong 75
Rush 71
Mind 67
sorry 65
Sea.KH 64
Movie 43
JYJ41
soO 39
sas.Sziky 31
Free 24
Yoon 23
Sacsri 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
HiyA 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
Terrorterran 9
SilentControl 6
Hm[arnc] 5
Noble 3
Dota 2
Gorgc6802
singsing3834
qojqva2940
Dendi1610
Fuzer 273
XcaliburYe162
Counter-Strike
zeus647
markeloff168
oskar125
Other Games
hiko1614
B2W.Neo979
Hui .423
crisheroes366
Lowko330
Happy226
RotterdaM161
QueenE99
Trikslyr46
NeuroSwarm40
FunKaTv 37
ToD24
ZerO(Twitch)8
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3737
• WagamamaTV457
League of Legends
• Nemesis5467
• TFBlade321
Other Games
• Shiphtur24
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 43m
PiGosaur Monday
8h 43m
LiuLi Cup
19h 43m
OSC
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Online Event
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.