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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#261
violet is guuuud
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Mooster
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada43 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#262
GG violet, well played! :D
Turquoise
Profile Joined August 2011
Turkey145 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#263
Yay Violet!

Good series.
Here's looking at you, kid.
Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:11:39
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#264
Both played very well, congrats to viOLet!
Does anyone know why hero doesn't use warp prism's as much anymore? He seems to be using more proxy pylons and less warp prisms, are pylons better because they are so cheap?
The night is dark and full of Terrans
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#265
Really not a fan of lategame PvZ.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#266
Wow violet, simply wow....GSL, plz plz plz give him a code S seed
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#267
gg! Grats to violet for this big win, looking forward to seeing who violet will play next.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
March 04 2012 04:09 GMT
#268
Congratulations Violet!
Nice games over the past weeks from HerO, I was impressed by how many he won.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Phats
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:10:35
March 04 2012 04:10 GMT
#269
Hero prob expected a 4-5 base maxing on broodlords, I think that push surprised him. Nice timing there by violet!
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
March 04 2012 04:10 GMT
#270
nice series. both played really good
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
March 04 2012 04:11 GMT
#271
QQ that hero lost, though it was close and a good win by violet

now if only lategame PvZ was easier for my weary eyes to watch BLinfestor so strong and slow and indestructible....reminds me of PvT in bw with the terran 200/200 ball of "i will kill you trololololol"
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
March 04 2012 04:18 GMT
#272
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
March 04 2012 04:20 GMT
#273
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.


You gotta do what terran does. Don't let them tech up to broodlords.
Anubit3Blad3
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2 Posts
March 04 2012 04:30 GMT
#274
Congrats to Violet, I really thought that Hero would've won this one.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
March 04 2012 04:35 GMT
#275
Zerg it is!!!!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 04:39:12
March 04 2012 04:38 GMT
#276
People are whining about lategame PvZ when hero basically mothershipped his way to like 2523 PvZ wins that way? Can't even remember the last time Hero lost in the late game. Every good zerg just takes advantage of the fact that hero pretty much likes to play only macro style games and it makes it really predictable.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 04 2012 04:42 GMT
#277
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.


You go 2 base colossi, similar to Hero's build on Shattered although the situation was different there. Problem is with ffe you can't reliably scout until you've chosen at least the beginnings of your build, so it becomes a guessing game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
March 04 2012 04:50 GMT
#278
damn pretty depressing week for PvZ. I mean ViOlet is sick good and has lots of talent but Hero has been grinding games from the start and everything about HerO is pushing protoss to the limit and evidently the current limit just isn't good enough ;(
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2012 05:33 GMT
#279
On March 04 2012 13:09 Funguuuuu wrote:
Both played very well, congrats to viOLet!
Does anyone know why hero doesn't use warp prism's as much anymore? He seems to be using more proxy pylons and less warp prisms, are pylons better because they are so cheap?


My guess would be that warp prism production cuts into immortal and collosus production, both of which are crucial for PvZ.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#280
On March 04 2012 13:18 caradoc wrote:
It seems like a ridiculously difficult style to punish. Infestors before collosi or templars, broodlords before mothership. Late game Z unit composition not really contestable with anything protoss has. I can't even imagine how you would deal with it.



I think the key is the mid game. Hero did not pressure the zerg enough and allowed zerg doing whatever they want. Even zerg did not build a lot of attacking units in mid game. Toss still needs to build a lot of attacking units to hold his 3rd base.
And voilet's playstyle is so wired, he stayed 3 bases versus 3 bases. I could not understand how that works even though I know what they are doing there. Hero did not see what we saw there, it was hard for him to read what voilet was aiming for.

I think the best way for a toss to read what the zerg is doing is to get aggressive. That is why although Hero is able to show us brilliant pvz all the time, I still think Mc's playstyle makes more sense. Get aggressive in the mid game before you play a marco game against a zerg.
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