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kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
March 03 2012 11:36 GMT
#5501
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the frontpage, wasn't able to catch it live


Then don't visit TL until you've seen the games.
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
March 03 2012 11:36 GMT
#5502
On March 03 2012 20:33 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the front page, wasn't able to catch it live

You can alter your account settings so you don't get spoilers.


Didn't know that, thanks, but can't find anything at 'site options'
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
March 03 2012 11:36 GMT
#5503
Please cut the truly wish to know crap. It's annoying as f---.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Teacher74
Profile Joined September 2010
United States47 Posts
March 03 2012 11:36 GMT
#5504
On March 03 2012 20:34 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:32 Teacher74 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:30 Blade Fox wrote:
Genius had this series in his pocket until he made carriers. Go figure..


Ugh... people are reading that game wrong. That was actually a REALLY GOOD strategy. Carriers with +air attacks which is what Genius was doing snowballs really quickly and become extremely cost efficient. It was a really good build to mix into a best of 7 and a really good map to do it on cuz you can turtle on three base which is what you need to support carriers.

Genius wanted to win. We could all see it in his face. He wasn't trolling.

I'd believe you if I saw carriers winning more than 1 out of 50 games.


I do that build on the ladder a LOT so i realize how razor thin the timing window for DRG was. He moved in exactly at the right time. That in combination of Genius losing a grip of phoenixes flying over hydras and not scouting the incoming overlords even though he had mass phoenixes. Also, not having the carriers in position to defend the third hurt him really badly as well.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#5505
On March 03 2012 20:36 niekoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:33 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the front page, wasn't able to catch it live

You can alter your account settings so you don't get spoilers.


Didn't know that, thanks, but can't find anything at 'site options'

They mention how to on the info post where they explain the site changes, you should be able to search for it. or google or something I think.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#5506
On March 03 2012 20:35 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:33 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:25 ikh wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:22 setzer wrote:
They can celebrate without making GSL finals look like amateur hour.

i think this getting Personally Annoyed and Insulted about seeing shows of emotion, humour and personality instead of Professional Business Additudes is a pretty distinctly american thing. do realise your views on such things are not objective or absolute, especially when they're in the minority.


I don't know any professional sport where during the course of a match/event players of opposing sides put on what amounts to a comedy show. You wouldn't see KeSPA allow this. You wouldn't see an NFL franchise tolerate this. I probably wouldn't mind as much if this happened in ro32 group stage or something, but come on, this was the finals. I expected a little more composure.


You should probably read the article John the Translator wrote on how KeSPA is the Blight of eSports.
Bringing KeSPA into the discussion does little to make your points look any better, unfortunately.


By "Blight of eSports" do you mean bringing professional gaming to the closest we've been to a culturally accepted level?
Urbz
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:37:59
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#5507
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the frontpage, wasn't able to catch it live


Just bookmark http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gom directly next time and go from there to watch before checking any other media.
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
March 03 2012 11:37 GMT
#5508
On March 03 2012 20:36 kmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the frontpage, wasn't able to catch it live


Then don't visit TL until you've seen the games.


That's just silly, if I want to watch a player stream on TL and BOOM the result is in your face..
eimii
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3 Posts
March 03 2012 11:38 GMT
#5509
Genius gave up the moment he decided to rush carriers. If he hadn't done that, maybe some of the momentum would still be on his side going into the last matches. No matter what booth shenanigans, one of them was going home feeling like shit. I think DRG didn't want this match to create any animosity and tried to create a friendly atmosphere, which may have seen like bm to the viewers.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 03 2012 11:39 GMT
#5510
On March 03 2012 20:37 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:35 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:33 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:25 ikh wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:22 setzer wrote:
They can celebrate without making GSL finals look like amateur hour.

i think this getting Personally Annoyed and Insulted about seeing shows of emotion, humour and personality instead of Professional Business Additudes is a pretty distinctly american thing. do realise your views on such things are not objective or absolute, especially when they're in the minority.


I don't know any professional sport where during the course of a match/event players of opposing sides put on what amounts to a comedy show. You wouldn't see KeSPA allow this. You wouldn't see an NFL franchise tolerate this. I probably wouldn't mind as much if this happened in ro32 group stage or something, but come on, this was the finals. I expected a little more composure.


You should probably read the article John the Translator wrote on how KeSPA is the Blight of eSports.
Bringing KeSPA into the discussion does little to make your points look any better, unfortunately.


By "Blight of eSports" do you mean bringing professional gaming to the closest we've been to a culturally accepted level?


As in John said KeSPA was terrible and evil and money grubbing and didn't allow expansion of esports outside of Korea due to blackmail and threatened lawsuits.
moo...for DRG
FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:41:37
March 03 2012 11:39 GMT
#5511
Nice finals, gratz to DRG, I predicted him winning 4:2.

I truely dislike Crossfire though and imo it needs to go. Protoss can never ever secure a third base so as long as Zerg builds a ton of spinecrawlers he can never ever lose. Remember the final battle of the game? A few stalkers cramped up behind the mineral line of DRGs third while he attacked with his left-over mutas. I don't like that this map forces weird scenarios like that and it's just a bad map in general. Please remove it, gom! Only thing I didn't like about the finals, everything else was great!

"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:42:30
March 03 2012 11:41 GMT
#5512
edit: oops, sorry, I accidentally quoted myself. Sorry

Congrats to DRG once more
"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 11:42:24
March 03 2012 11:41 GMT
#5513
On March 03 2012 20:37 niekoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:36 kmh wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the frontpage, wasn't able to catch it live


Then don't visit TL until you've seen the games.


That's just silly, if I want to watch a player stream on TL and BOOM the result is in your face..


It's your fault for not keeping up, they changed the spoiler policy a week ago and there is a button on the front page to " Hide Spoilers "

On March 03 2012 20:39 FuFighter wrote:
Nice finals, gratz to DRG, I predicted him winning 4:2.

I truely dislike Crossfire though and imo it needs to go. Protoss can never ever secure a third base so as long as Zerg builds a ton of spinecrawlers he can never ever lose. Remember the final battle of the game? A few stalkers cramped up behind the mineral line of DRGs third while he attacked with his left-over mutas. I don't like that this map forces weird scenarios like that and it's just a bad map in general. Please remove it, gom! Only thing I didn't like about the finals, everything else was great!



Crossfire is confirmed for removed next season.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
March 03 2012 11:41 GMT
#5514
On March 03 2012 20:36 Teacher74 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:34 R!! wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:32 Teacher74 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:30 Blade Fox wrote:
Genius had this series in his pocket until he made carriers. Go figure..


Ugh... people are reading that game wrong. That was actually a REALLY GOOD strategy. Carriers with +air attacks which is what Genius was doing snowballs really quickly and become extremely cost efficient. It was a really good build to mix into a best of 7 and a really good map to do it on cuz you can turtle on three base which is what you need to support carriers.

Genius wanted to win. We could all see it in his face. He wasn't trolling.

I'd believe you if I saw carriers winning more than 1 out of 50 games.


I do that build on the ladder a LOT so i realize how razor thin the timing window for DRG was. He moved in exactly at the right time. That in combination of Genius losing a grip of phoenixes flying over hydras and not scouting the incoming overlords even though he had mass phoenixes. Also, not having the carriers in position to defend the third hurt him really badly as well.

At what level?I don't mean that to discredit you, if it's actually being done at a higher level than mid masters, I'd be interested in seeing some replays.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 03 2012 11:42 GMT
#5515
On March 03 2012 20:39 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:37 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:35 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:33 setzer wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:25 ikh wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:22 setzer wrote:
They can celebrate without making GSL finals look like amateur hour.

i think this getting Personally Annoyed and Insulted about seeing shows of emotion, humour and personality instead of Professional Business Additudes is a pretty distinctly american thing. do realise your views on such things are not objective or absolute, especially when they're in the minority.


I don't know any professional sport where during the course of a match/event players of opposing sides put on what amounts to a comedy show. You wouldn't see KeSPA allow this. You wouldn't see an NFL franchise tolerate this. I probably wouldn't mind as much if this happened in ro32 group stage or something, but come on, this was the finals. I expected a little more composure.


You should probably read the article John the Translator wrote on how KeSPA is the Blight of eSports.
Bringing KeSPA into the discussion does little to make your points look any better, unfortunately.


By "Blight of eSports" do you mean bringing professional gaming to the closest we've been to a culturally accepted level?


As in John said KeSPA was terrible and evil and money grubbing and didn't allow expansion of esports outside of Korea due to blackmail and threatened lawsuits.


And you trust John to give a perfectly objective view of KeSPA when he works for a company that was basically shit on by them? KeSPA does stupid stuff like all corporations (including GOM! gasp), but you cannot deny the boundaries BW pushed, and KeSPA was a part of that.
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
March 03 2012 11:42 GMT
#5516
On March 03 2012 20:34 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:32 Teacher74 wrote:
On March 03 2012 20:30 Blade Fox wrote:
Genius had this series in his pocket until he made carriers. Go figure..


Ugh... people are reading that game wrong. That was actually a REALLY GOOD strategy. Carriers with +air attacks which is what Genius was doing snowballs really quickly and become extremely cost efficient. It was a really good build to mix into a best of 7 and a really good map to do it on cuz you can turtle on three base which is what you need to support carriers.

Genius wanted to win. We could all see it in his face. He wasn't trolling.

I'd believe you if I saw carriers winning more than 1 out of 50 games.


Right, because what we expect from the best players in the world (particularly those named Genius) is to not innovate, and never figure out new ways to use units unexpectedly.

And when these best players in the world do happen to find these very surprising strategies, we expect them to use them in on the Ladder or something to make sure they're given away before they really count.

Perfect logic.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
Dinsdale
Profile Joined March 2007
Norway57 Posts
March 03 2012 11:42 GMT
#5517
Spoiler alert....
Bengui
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada775 Posts
March 03 2012 11:44 GMT
#5518
On March 03 2012 20:36 kmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 20:33 niekoz wrote:
I realy don't like the spoiler on the frontpage, wasn't able to catch it live


Then don't visit TL until you've seen the games.

So you can never visit TL at all ? =(
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 03 2012 11:44 GMT
#5519
On March 03 2012 19:35 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Now we know DongRaeGu's master plan!!!

1. Lose to genius 2-0 meekly earlier in code S so genius will think DRG is a noob
2. Meet genius in code S and lose in standard games. Make genius think he's g00t.
3. Let genius think he can play gimmicky and get away with it.
4. Get free wins against genius.
5. ?????
6. PROFIT! WIN GSL!



hahahahaha
I love this.
DRG's so smart, he's thinking weeks in advance.
I bet he has timetraveling technology!
moo...for DRG
t2kir
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines2 Posts
March 03 2012 11:45 GMT
#5520
spoiler
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