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On February 24 2012 22:07 Sea_aeS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 22:03 KalWarkov wrote:On February 24 2012 22:01 Sea_aeS wrote:On February 24 2012 21:57 HQuality wrote:On February 24 2012 21:56 Ylrahc wrote:On February 24 2012 21:53 shizna wrote: happy micro is about 34.4 times better than stephano micro. First game tells the exact contrary  Missclicks happen, Stephano has the (bad) habit to be overconfident with his (most of the time) amazing micro (glings only vs banelings / glings, lings / workers vs hellions, etc) A lesson here and there can't hurt  disagree happy's micro is really better and first game - well it's hard to micro 10 hellions in 10x10 pixel quadrant lol Well i remember warIII and i can tell you stephano >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy in term of micro. referring to wc3, no1 had happys level of micro in europe. not even grubby, he was stubborn, that made him being only top 5, not the best. he has better micro than stephano, believe me. We are talking about micro and you bring me GRubby who didnt have an incredible one....
i said any eu wc3 player. probably lucifron in his best times...
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Pretty well done from Happy, managed to keep his lead from the hellions nicely and defend from banelings well.
Really not sure on Stephano's constant ling follow up after that but guess he was a bit short on options. Constant drops from Happy were pretty good, even if he was unloading half of them directly onto a pack of lings to immediately die the times he wasn't he was getting enough damage done.
Glad they've bumped up the volume on Stream 2 and added the game volume on Stream 1.
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Let's see what Stephano is going to do after that zergling-monobattle
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On February 24 2012 22:07 Flanq wrote: TB is right to be honest, if happy could macro behind his aggression he'd be a world beater.
Then he would be Gumiho ;P
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The difference between Happy and Gumiho: Both have insane drop but Gumiho can macro really well behind it and when he drops he don't let his marines die.
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On February 24 2012 22:07 Ariion wrote: Wow, those are drops I'd like to do :D Does Happy drop that much very often or was that just this game? its not that hard for progamers to drop a lot when there are no mutas or infestors out
the only thing that can hurt you are queens...
On February 24 2012 22:09 Wildmoon wrote: The difference between Happy and Gumiho: Both have insane drop but Gumiho can macro really well behind it. droping vs ling only is an entire different thing than droping vs mutas/infestors...
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I don't know about those drops. They did damage, but he lost a lot of marines from not paying attention to them. I know he was macroing and setting up more drops, but the reason Stephano almost got back into the game was because instead of pushing with his massive marine ball Happy decided to drop Stephano over and over again and lost a lot of marines in the process.
As for Stephano, a faster transition to infestors would've been better since he was banking so much gas, but he lost the game fairly early on. You can't lose 15 drones to 4 hellions at that point in the game.
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On February 24 2012 22:08 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 22:07 Sea_aeS wrote:On February 24 2012 22:03 KalWarkov wrote:On February 24 2012 22:01 Sea_aeS wrote:On February 24 2012 21:57 HQuality wrote:On February 24 2012 21:56 Ylrahc wrote:On February 24 2012 21:53 shizna wrote: happy micro is about 34.4 times better than stephano micro. First game tells the exact contrary  Missclicks happen, Stephano has the (bad) habit to be overconfident with his (most of the time) amazing micro (glings only vs banelings / glings, lings / workers vs hellions, etc) A lesson here and there can't hurt  disagree happy's micro is really better and first game - well it's hard to micro 10 hellions in 10x10 pixel quadrant lol Well i remember warIII and i can tell you stephano >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy in term of micro. referring to wc3, no1 had happys level of micro in europe. not even grubby, he was stubborn, that made him being only top 5, not the best. he has better micro than stephano, believe me. We are talking about micro and you bring me GRubby who didnt have an incredible one.... i said any eu wc3 player. probably lucifron in his best times... yes, lucifron was most talented wc3 player with amazing micro.
He was sick in sc2 to.
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Stephano just played really bad. Happy won even when his macro slipped hard. No Infestors, No Mutas, Not even Speed-Banes lolz?
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On February 24 2012 22:08 NeonFox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 22:07 Tsubbi wrote: happy impressive? he needed 20 mins to kill of a zerg on shakuras who lost 15 drones to 4 hellions and failed a baneling bust Pretty much this, Stephano lost the game in the first 6mn, happy's macro slipped too much and he nearly let him come back. Which would have been embarassing after killing 15 drones in the early game.
his micro and medivac drops were impressive, we didnt talk about his macro. thats the part hes still missing a bit. but thats bullshitting at a very high level tbh.
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On February 24 2012 22:06 Severian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 22:05 bennyaus wrote: Stephano is incredible. How he is still in this game, and winning now?! is beyond me Happy's macro has been very bad. Never got above 55 SCVs despite having 3 Orbitals for so long, has over 2k gas.
whaddya mean bad macro? he had like 10 more scvs than stephano PLUS MULES...
his upgrades were slow, but he was only 1/1 to stephano's 2/2... that SHOULD NOT be enough to 'come back' for losing 15 drones on 1.5 bases and then failing a baneling bust killing only 5 of happy's workers...
you're basically saying "stephno is only still in it because happy made 1 mistake, the fact that stephano made 20 mistakes and stayed on ling tech for the entire game is irrelevant"
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Stephano gonna Roach/ling/baneling timing attack this game.
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On February 24 2012 22:08 Jetaap wrote:Remember that he killed 12 drones at the beggining of the game with hellions and double expanded behind that. If anything it was stephano that was impressive this game ^^. I feel like happy overcommited with his drops that what allowed stephano to stay in the game.
Yea but stephano also did big damage with baneling bust. So this was happys impressive game. Those multi pronged drops. U cannot beat that 
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On February 24 2012 22:08 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 22:07 Tsubbi wrote: happy impressive? he needed 20 mins to kill of a zerg on shakuras who lost 15 drones to 4 hellions and failed a baneling bust Please try and refrain from posting this rubbish in the future, thanks.
It's not really rubbish. Happy had a giant advantage but his macro was very poor and he wasn't capable of defending well when Stephano returned some aggression and lost everything at his third.
The offensive side of his game was neat but he let that be way closer than it should have been.
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Kas is out ((
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game of the tournament so early first day "
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wow moon vs bratok lategame, will check that out :D
looking promising, moon going both broodlord and ultra
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wait wtf, I thought Kas was 1-1 against titan, liqui says its 2-0 in TITAN's favor? can someone explain this?
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I almost thought that was gumiho 
regardless of the circumstances, I was very impressed by two key things that Happy did that I'm sure many terrans can learn from:
1. Relentless dropping and aggression. Even when some fail it is really going to task the defender and a few good drops succeeding are crucial. 2. (I think this point is even more important.) Incredible attention to tank positioning! In corners on high grounds and next to cliffs. Very beautiful!
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Kas out, Welmu through according to Liquipedia. Oh my.
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