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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
February 23 2012 15:27 GMT
#2961
On February 23 2012 23:28 petro1987 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 23:24 secretary bird wrote:
On February 23 2012 23:15 ZackAttack wrote:
MMMVG is the best endgame composition end of story unless you can prove otherwise.


The logic is not strong with this one...6/10?


Absolutely everything suggests that it is if you doubt it at least give a reason or something, believing some random TL poster who has never tried it over common knowledge doesnt seem very logical.


Can't you see how clear it's that MMMGV is a bad late game composition? Everyone is just doing it because they are stupid. But worry not. A random Protoss poster in TL is saying something is out there for everyone to find. Yet he doesn't have a clue about what it is. Isn't that lovely? It's probably mass ravens with battlecruisers. That can't be bad.


Lol. Every Terran for the past year has exclusively done a 1-2 base all in or MMVG.

Thor banshee all ins exist. and 1/1/1 exists. Late game composition has stagnated at MMVG. So you probably suggest one or more of the following: banshees to snipe HT, tanks to deal splash, ravens for pdd and hunter seeker, thors to tank damage, blue flame helions to kill zealots, battlecruisers to 1 shot collosi.

First of all, these things are more of a cute thing than a way to deal with the huge health and aoe dps of the toss deathball. Also, more importantly, Terran already requires significantly more micro and is more fragile in a late game engagement. Would adding more micro for Terran late game while letting toss stay the same really be fair?

This is why non-pro Terran's (and pros too) are having a very hard time with TvP. With equal mechanics and micro with your toss counterpart his army will be more effective than yours late game. He'll also have the advantage because no matter where you engage on the map, the toss can instantly reinforce with 10+ zealots.

Terran is supposed to do damage early, I get that. And while TvP isn't as extreme as zvp in the regard that if toss gets an uncontested 3rd you might as well leave the game, once storms or a few collosi are out toss is immune to attack. Toss have been dealing with terran having to damage them early for months. They are getting better. It took them awhile to learn to counter zerg aggression but they eventually did. Same now with pvt.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
February 23 2012 15:31 GMT
#2962
o m g

so fucking sick
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
February 23 2012 15:35 GMT
#2963
eh whats up with the spoilers with "truly wanting to know"... seems silly.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
February 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#2964
Omg DRG is so so good. Get out MMA there's a new comeback king
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
February 23 2012 15:36 GMT
#2965
*cries* Most epic GSL finals match-up
T uT
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
February 23 2012 15:41 GMT
#2966
How is Genius this good?
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 23 2012 15:44 GMT
#2967
On February 24 2012 00:41 Leifish wrote:
How is Genius this good?


He decided to stop being lazy and get further than just staying Code S every season, if you read his interviews you'll see.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 23 2012 15:46 GMT
#2968
i expect no less than 3 bulgogi pictures
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 15:51:48
February 23 2012 15:51 GMT
#2969
Congrats to team MVP on their first GSL solo title, whoever it may be!
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 15:55:47
February 23 2012 15:53 GMT
#2970
YESSSSSSS MVP FINALS. This one's probably gonna be very good considering they know each other really well. PvZ's are usually fun to watch if it's not all about timing pushes which isn't really the style of Genius anyway. Oh and, Genius' bulgogi is top tier in DRG's eyes. Brings him to the yard every time. :D

Maybe we are seeing the new triumverate of Starcraft 2? (MMA, DRG, Genius?)
世界を革命する力を。
Traven
Profile Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
February 23 2012 16:02 GMT
#2971
After watching Jinro's late game TvP yesterday i seriously don't think terrans should complain about late game balance. Just use nukes for positional advantages.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 16:18:44
February 23 2012 16:11 GMT
#2972
Lol, no offense to jinro, but are we going to use his games for balanc discussion?
I scv rushed and beat a bronze yesterday so scvs are op...

When jinro does that to beat oz, puzzle, genius, parting, mc in gsl. Then we can talk. Just because the top
Terrans aren't trying other strats in gsl isnt because they aren't trying. They haven't found a solution better then
Mmmvg yet so they use mmmvg in the matches that matter. I am sure they are playing with other strats internally. Or they
Are waiting for David Kim to nerf llate game P like he nerfed ghosts.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45673 Posts
February 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#2973
DRG and Genius... MVP so happy ^^

Plus I love those guys.

PLUS... NO TERRANS!!!! :D :D :D Mwahahahahaha ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
February 23 2012 16:14 GMT
#2974
Ahaha guess who saw it coming. :D No, seriously, I'm happy for both DRG and Genius and at the same time I finally guessed both semi finals right.
fLDm
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
February 23 2012 16:14 GMT
#2975
someone should write to mvps suggest-ceremony-mail-adress.
i would love to see a ceremony where the winner of the finals may sit on a throne while the loser serves him bulgogi while dressed as a girl.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
February 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#2976
Oh god I hope they both plan some funny ceremonies during the finals (since they are both friends). That would be the best GSL Finals ever.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 23 2012 16:27 GMT
#2977
Holy shit Genius. And is this not like the third ever GSL finals to have had no Terrans, and the fourth in which there is a Protoss?

Hell yeah. I fully expect this finals to be epic.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 23 2012 16:36 GMT
#2978
NO terrans in finals, what a sweet, sweet day.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 23 2012 16:48 GMT
#2979
On February 24 2012 01:11 vthree wrote:
Lol, no offense to jinro, but are we going to use his games for balanc discussion?
I scv rushed and beat a bronze yesterday so scvs are op...

When jinro does that to beat oz, puzzle, genius, parting, mc in gsl. Then we can talk. Just because the top
Terrans aren't trying other strats in gsl isnt because they aren't trying. They haven't found a solution better then
Mmmvg yet so they use mmmvg in the matches that matter. I am sure they are playing with other strats internally. Or they
Are waiting for David Kim to nerf llate game P like he nerfed ghosts.


Jinro is very high level. Anything he wins with on high masters/gm korea ladder is probably viable. Your post was condescending, ignorant, and rude.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Eraserhead
Profile Joined October 2011
159 Posts
February 23 2012 16:59 GMT
#2980
omg genius pulled back 2 void rays, the only units he had to micro, so epic!!!!11
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