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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:50 Flummie wrote: I think Genius will take this  I'd say he is the favorite, but both of those guys have been absolutly amazing this GSL. And they are on one team, they know each other and will be prepared. And it's a final, so they are going to be extraprepared. Hyped, hyped, hyped! | ||
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Utinni
Canada1196 Posts
Should be good, both are amazing players. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:46 HolyArrow wrote: By that logic, you can't really discuss whining at all because then that discussion will just be labeled as whining and then nobody can talk about anything without being labeled a whiner. See, I can do it too: Hey, look at Bagi, whining about me whining about Terran players whining! Oh, and since I anticipate a response along the lines of "No, I wasn't whining, I was merely pointing out that you were whining" - yeah, that's what my defense is as well. I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that Terran players are whining. You might have a point, except for the fact that this: On February 23 2012 21:26 HolyArrow wrote: Haha, you can't be serious. There's been tons of "Protoss OP" whining in these LR threads. Terrans have been whining a ton lately, the only difference is that they're actually still doing fine in the GSL (again, 2 Ts in the semifinals), especially compared to how badly Z or P was doing at the height of their respective whining. If you think Terrans haven't been whining lately (both about the new patch and about Protoss) then you're so far in denial that there's no point in even continuing this conversation because I can't argue with someone who just blatantly ignores obvious facts. In the past, sure, there's been less Terran whining than Protoss or Zerg whining, but that's conveniently because Terran dominated the GSL last year. Now that Terran's been taken down a notch we see that Terran players are merely human and whine just as much as Toss or Zerg players. Only difference is that I see a ton of Terran whining when their race went from dominant to just average, while I saw the Zerg and Toss whining when their races were legitimately doing terribly in the GSL. To be clear, I'm not factoring personal ladder experiences into this at all. I'm solely talking about the GSL. Goes a "little" beyond pointing out terran players a whine. Its literally you complaining about how the terran players have the audacity to whine in the first place. | ||
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ChriseC
Germany440 Posts
i love zerg so happy we dont have another tvt final | ||
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ChaosTerran
Austria844 Posts
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PureBalls
Austria383 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:54 epoc wrote: I have a feeling that genius could win finals. Just like jakji won against leenock A lot more people will bet for Genius than they did for Jjakji. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:01 Bagi wrote: You might have a point, except for the fact that this: Goes a "little" beyond pointing out terran players a whine. Its literally you complaining about how the terran players have the audacity to whine in the first place. You call it complaining, I call it pointing out ironies. I could just as easily interpret your previous post as a thinly-veiled complaint about my own supposed whining, although I'm pretty sure you meant it as a snide comment rather than a complaint. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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stfouri
Finland272 Posts
offtopic: Terran is the weakest race outside of GSL, but you cant say that in these forums cause all the trolls will come and get you with their "Terran was dominant for soo long" bs. Now add Ghost nerf and Terran is even weaker in lategame vs Zerg. Not saying TvZ is unwinnable, but it just became ALOT harder, if someone cant see that then... | ||
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petro1987
Brazil374 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:06 ChaosTerran wrote: Just think about this. When Blizzard said that terran is the least succesful race on the ladder, was there a huge shitstorm by terran players with 20 whine threads about how blizzard needs to fix the race? No of course not, barely anyone complained, and the few who complained were just told to play better (in other words they were told that P and Z players are just better in general). Now think about the same scenario just with the exception that it's not terran who is the weakest ladder race but P or Z. Can you imagine the shitstorm people would start? How many threads on TL and the bnet forums where everyone demands an insta buff for the weakest race? It's so ridiculous and hypocritical, it actually makes my cry and laugh at the same time. Well... What can we do? There are like 20% of Terran players in TL, if not less. Would you really expect anything different? You see, people love to say T is OP no matter what. It's a good excuse for their own losses. It's a psychological defence. | ||
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Ghrimnar
Germany260 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:20 petro1987 wrote: Well... What can we do? There are like 20% of Terran players in TL, if not less. Would you really expect anything different? You see, people love to say T is OP no matter what. It's a good excuse for their own losses. It's a psychological defence. 36% Terran on TL And one GSL final without Terran is no problem. Nobody really cares. Stop whine. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:37 ChaosTerran wrote: blizzard ladder stats (just read the blog post in which david kim explicitly states that terran is doing the worst of all 3 races on ladder. Check your facts Terran is still winning more than 50% of games at highish levels of ladder according to David Kim - he said people were COMPLAINING that Terran is weaker, which should show up as lower win percentages than the other races, but their statistics and evidence shows otherwise. IMO though, Terran takes better mechanics (but can be worse at strategy) than the other races at high levels. Once you get to Code S that's no longer the case though most-likely (obviously I have no first-hand experience here). I play random btw. I read almost every thinly-veiled balance whine in the strategy forums (usually tagged with [d] or [h]), and I can't remember any games where players lost when they deserved to win. Therefore balance must be pretty good (I don't like ZvT or PvZ though, those are hard, but that's just because I suck at them). | ||
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PureBalls
Austria383 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:19 stfouri wrote: Oh had to leave computer when score was 2/0, DRG won? Gz! offtopic: Terran is the weakest race outside of GSL, but you cant say that in these forums cause all the trolls will come and get you with their "Terran was dominant for soo long" bs. Now add Ghost nerf and Terran is even weaker in lategame vs Zerg. Not saying TvZ is unwinnable, but it just became ALOT harder, if someone cant see that then... Dont worry, I'm onto it! Just yesterday I've founded the "save the terrans foundation". We accept all sorts of donations. Visa, Mastercard, PayPal, you name it. Our goal is to make the public aware of the hardships terrans are going through, and thus try to save the endangered species. Are you interested in contributing? | ||
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ChaosTerran
Austria844 Posts
On February 23 2012 22:24 Ghrimnar wrote: 36% Terran on TL And one GSL final without Terran is no problem. Nobody really cares. Stop whine. At least prove that. Anyone can claim random stuff. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1213 Posts
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terrrrrible
United States38 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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murphs
Ireland417 Posts
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