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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
February 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#2001
On February 16 2012 20:27 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 20:13 MaderA wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:10 pdd wrote:
I think what Tastosis didn't really talk about was the fact that DRG scouted the cancelled Nexus. Although I'm not really sure how, thought the Overlord was killed before the cancel.

DRG ran his lings in when Parting moved out and scouted no nexus. You're right, the overlords were killed, that's the reason why he went for a stargate before expanding.

Hmm. I'm fairly certain the observer was pointing out that DRG had no vision of a building Nexus just as Parting moved out, and only the lings ran in after Parting moved out. Unless lings ran in once before Parting moved out?


The overlord saw the nexus the second it started to build. DRG did not see that it was cancelled until the longs got in.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#2002
On February 16 2012 20:25 pdd wrote:
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On February 16 2012 20:23 Flanq wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:15 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:14 shabby wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:13 Flanq wrote:
MVP finals, Genius to win 4-3, sick finals for the GSL for once.


For the second time, you mean.


Third. I'm counting Blizzard Cup in that

First GSL i've managed to watch every game of since Nestea v Losira College has had me pretty run down until recently.

Which is the other good finals so I can go watch the vods?

Jjakji vs Leenock, MMA vs DRG are the only close and good finals.

MMA vs MVP was extremely one-sided, but it was also really good.

MMA/DRG I saw, will check out Jjakji/Leenock, thanks.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#2003
On February 16 2012 20:20 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 20:18 Inflicted_ wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:16 mordk wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:14 Fionn wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:11 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:10 Barkziee wrote:
It just sucks when the best toss in the world can't take a game.


Parting is definitely not the best Protoss in the world. Both MC and Genius are better than him, and Oz is pretty close too.


MC, ehhhhhhh.

But right now, no question, after today's games, Genius is the best Protoss playing at the moment. He's now proven himself against the top PvP player, MC, top ZvP players, DRG/Nestea and top TvP players, sC and MarineKing. I really like Parting, but damn did he tilt after the first game. After the second game, he literally cried, so there was no coming back for him.

I'm actually happy with any final that isn't Alive vs. Gumiho, so that's probably gonna be what happens.

MC is not the top PvP player, why do people keep saying this? It's been his worst matchup for months. When he was good at PvP he would have crushed JYP 3-0 in HSC without giving him a chance.

MC is still probably the best protoss. Genius needs to prove himself for a longer period of time. He's the best protoss in this GSL though.


MC is pretty solid in all three matchups, which is why he gets far and is labelled the best Protoss. It's similar to Mvp's situation, there's a few players out there who have shown higher capabilities in some aspects when on form, but no-one has ever beaten the consistency of Mvp.

I agree MC is the best protoss in the world, but his PvP has been shaky for months now. Whenever I see MC play, the matchup I fear the most is PvP, because in it, MC is actually like in the stone age in regards to builds. He only gets wins because of his superior execution, but in PvP build orders are way more important, which means that since he's behind in the metagame, not even his execution can save him in many situations


Except when he out Build Ordered one of the best PvPers in the world at HSC. Shits random/luck as hell.
MC for president
Flexis
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden235 Posts
February 16 2012 11:30 GMT
#2004
the best game ever for me was the last game between mma and drg in the blizzard cup of the best code s'ers.
that last game.. wow..
might be alive vs drg, and then drg wins. Hope they play even better than that last match before.. then this finals will be the best ever
might even happen with genius vs drg!
please gumibear dont ruin everything!
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
February 16 2012 11:30 GMT
#2005
On February 16 2012 20:18 HolyArrow wrote:
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On February 16 2012 20:15 sitromit wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:10 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:09 Azzur wrote:
Cheesetoss goes down!


Play epic macro games against Jjakji, get labeled Cheesetoss.

You're hilarious xD


Do nothing but 2 base allins against Nestea and Losira in the MLG qualifiers. Do 2 Stargate cheese and Nexus cancel 4 gate against DRG in the round of 8. Sounds like a good label to me. Sorry your Protoss hero got owned hard. :p


This is a funny post, because if you saw my previous post you'll see that I'm actually a lot more satisfied as a spectator this GSL than I was in the previous ones toward the end of last year. You also don't seem to realize that I'm a DRG fan and I was happy to see either move on. Your blatant provocation is cute, though. In regards to the games, sure, Parting plays cheesy sometimes, but hey, so does MVP (all-inning Protoss a ton last year) and no one called him cheeseTerran. Why? Because he also showed himself to be capable of great macro games. Same with Parting. As long as cheese isn't something you solely do, you don't deserve such a label.

Seems like Parting wasn't the only one to get owned hard.
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
February 16 2012 11:30 GMT
#2006
DRG played well, but parting actually shouldn't have lost those games.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 16 2012 11:31 GMT
#2007
I just don't understand how Genius became so good. For the entirety of 2011 Genius was just a generic above average protoss no different from tester or sangho. He started to differentiate his play late in the year with funky carrier builds but at no point could you have ever said that this guy was a threat to go far in code S. Now suddenly he's become a beast with no explanation?
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 16 2012 11:31 GMT
#2008
So happy DRG is still in this, I hope he wins it all!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 16 2012 11:32 GMT
#2009
On February 16 2012 20:29 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 20:20 mordk wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:18 Inflicted_ wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:16 mordk wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:14 Fionn wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:11 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:10 Barkziee wrote:
It just sucks when the best toss in the world can't take a game.


Parting is definitely not the best Protoss in the world. Both MC and Genius are better than him, and Oz is pretty close too.


MC, ehhhhhhh.

But right now, no question, after today's games, Genius is the best Protoss playing at the moment. He's now proven himself against the top PvP player, MC, top ZvP players, DRG/Nestea and top TvP players, sC and MarineKing. I really like Parting, but damn did he tilt after the first game. After the second game, he literally cried, so there was no coming back for him.

I'm actually happy with any final that isn't Alive vs. Gumiho, so that's probably gonna be what happens.

MC is not the top PvP player, why do people keep saying this? It's been his worst matchup for months. When he was good at PvP he would have crushed JYP 3-0 in HSC without giving him a chance.

MC is still probably the best protoss. Genius needs to prove himself for a longer period of time. He's the best protoss in this GSL though.


MC is pretty solid in all three matchups, which is why he gets far and is labelled the best Protoss. It's similar to Mvp's situation, there's a few players out there who have shown higher capabilities in some aspects when on form, but no-one has ever beaten the consistency of Mvp.

I agree MC is the best protoss in the world, but his PvP has been shaky for months now. Whenever I see MC play, the matchup I fear the most is PvP, because in it, MC is actually like in the stone age in regards to builds. He only gets wins because of his superior execution, but in PvP build orders are way more important, which means that since he's behind in the metagame, not even his execution can save him in many situations


Except when he out Build Ordered one of the best PvPers in the world at HSC. Shits random/luck as hell.

Pft... in his prime MC would have 3-0d JYP with ease

You don't realize MC was as good at PvP as NesTea was at ZvZ, then he stayed behind.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
February 16 2012 11:32 GMT
#2010
Good day for MVP^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
February 16 2012 11:33 GMT
#2011
On February 16 2012 20:12 mordk wrote:
DRG got this GSL easily, unless aLive pulls massive upsets again


aLive just beat DRG 2-1 in IPL last week, wouldnt be surprised if he takes the season. MMA prolly was the hardest opponent out of anyone.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
February 16 2012 11:33 GMT
#2012
On February 16 2012 20:31 red4ce wrote:
I just don't understand how Genius became so good. For the entirety of 2011 Genius was just a generic above average protoss no different from tester or sangho. He started to differentiate his play late in the year with funky carrier builds but at no point could you have ever said that this guy was a threat to go far in code S. Now suddenly he's become a beast with no explanation?


Protosses have learned more 2base timings and 3base turtle deathball strategies.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 16 2012 11:33 GMT
#2013
abit disappointing in the zvp series today

drg played unbelievably good tho
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
February 16 2012 11:34 GMT
#2014
I'm riding the DRG train to the finals win. It's about time his greatness is recognized with a GSL S title!
MC for president
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 16 2012 11:34 GMT
#2015
On February 16 2012 20:31 red4ce wrote:
I just don't understand how Genius became so good. For the entirety of 2011 Genius was just a generic above average protoss no different from tester or sangho. He started to differentiate his play late in the year with funky carrier builds but at no point could you have ever said that this guy was a threat to go far in code S. Now suddenly he's become a beast with no explanation?


Well, I don't know how much of this is actually true, but Genius did mention plain old motivation problems and not practicing enough. Maybe he's really buckling down and putting his mind to it with his BroRaeGu and it's just working out amazingly for him.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
February 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#2016
On February 16 2012 20:31 red4ce wrote:
I just don't understand how Genius became so good. For the entirety of 2011 Genius was just a generic above average protoss no different from tester or sangho. He started to differentiate his play late in the year with funky carrier builds but at no point could you have ever said that this guy was a threat to go far in code S. Now suddenly he's become a beast with no explanation?


practice practice practice
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 16 2012 11:38 GMT
#2017
On February 16 2012 20:27 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 20:13 MaderA wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:10 pdd wrote:
I think what Tastosis didn't really talk about was the fact that DRG scouted the cancelled Nexus. Although I'm not really sure how, thought the Overlord was killed before the cancel.

DRG ran his lings in when Parting moved out and scouted no nexus. You're right, the overlords were killed, that's the reason why he went for a stargate before expanding.

Hmm. I'm fairly certain the observer was pointing out that DRG had no vision of a building Nexus just as Parting moved out, and only the lings ran in after Parting moved out. Unless lings ran in once before Parting moved out?


They did mention DRG scouted the additional units though. A player of DRG's caliber should know the attack would be coming, thus i guess there isn't really any need for them to mention that the nexus was cancelled again.
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
February 16 2012 11:39 GMT
#2018
DRG and Genius is the new MVP, Nestea
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 11:40:14
February 16 2012 11:40 GMT
#2019
On February 16 2012 20:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 20:15 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:14 shabby wrote:
On February 16 2012 20:13 Flanq wrote:
MVP finals, Genius to win 4-3, sick finals for the GSL for once.


For the second time, you mean.


Third. I'm counting Blizzard Cup in that

blizzard cup was only good for like the last 2 games though. first 3 were terrible


There is always gona be 1-2 games in a bo7 that sucks. It had the most epic last game of all time, that's all it mattered
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
February 16 2012 11:40 GMT
#2020
been impressed with DRG since watching the replays contained in the "message from korea" topic
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
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