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why does he build his forges back the main natural where they will be sniped by Supernovas drops
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On February 12 2012 02:01 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense. I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something. supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing. you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution. Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players. Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss. i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast? he's way better than feast... their series didn't really say much
Really? Feast impressed my more than ReaL in 2012(not by winnings, but by play / style), im not bashing i just honestly dont know, but i would not say one of them is "way better". i dont even count their series really, its PvP ~~
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On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so... Name me someone who is better. And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.
MC? I don't recall any protoss doing particularly well against T recently besides Parting v Jjakji
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lol i feel like real is just gonna die here.
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game is over if he doesn't kill him now
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On February 12 2012 02:02 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so... Name me someone who is better. And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best. MC? Parting?
MC, Parting, Oz, in no particular order is the trio of best TvPers imo.
But as everyone is talking about PvT, those who missed EXTreme vs IMHappy in the KSL should watch it, what a game 
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On February 12 2012 02:04 vndods wrote:
lol i feel like real is just gonna die here.
Won't happend because shakuras.
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On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so... Name me someone who is better. And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.
It's not. PvP is clearly his best matchup. Anyways, parting displayed better PvT and MC is the best on account of showing good play for more than one season.
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On February 12 2012 02:02 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense. I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something. supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing. you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution. Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players. Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss. i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast? Both MaNa and Naniwa are better than Feast. The thing is, neither of them did participate in any tournaments so far.Feast is, in my opinion, slightly ahead of ReaL, just as Grubby is. They qualified for some major events coming soon, we should wait to say things like this. Also, ReaLs performance in HSC4 was terrible, he played a ton of sloppy games :/
Of course NaNi, did notreally count him cause he has like 0 exposurei n EU 2012 =/
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On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments
Don't be stupid?
You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even).
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Is it normal for P to have less supply than T in this stage of the game?
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so much greed from Real, i really dont like his playstyle...
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On February 12 2012 02:05 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Is it normal for P to have less supply than T in this stage of the game?
yes. much faster to produce bio.
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On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so...
Terran are complete whiners lately. Whatever the fact we can bring, you're gonna answer "protoss lose because he is bad" or"Protoss win cuz imbalance".
In your way of thinking there is no place for a protoss player who win by skill.
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On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so... Name me someone who is better. And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.
I think that Puzzle has the best PvT right now but only because he has a very very good immortal bust which is winning him 80% of the games he does it on his stream. Then he wins other games because the opponent prepares for the immortal all in and it never comes. So its more of a strategy/mindgame thing for him atm.
Oz does have a very very good PvT though and its arguably Oz's best matchup. Though to be fair it is kinda of flimsy and jjakji was able to study it and play against it very very well.
The Puzzle immortal bust is also too new for that jjakji series if its the one im thinking about 
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Almost no upgrades for Terran. He will have 1-1 when ReaL has 3-3. XD
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On February 12 2012 02:05 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Is it normal for P to have less supply than T in this stage of the game?
Yeah it is.
Toss is investing in tech at this stage. And they don't have the additional gates still.
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On February 12 2012 02:05 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Is it normal for P to have less supply than T in this stage of the game?
yes
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On February 12 2012 02:04 KroN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:02 Tarotis wrote:On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense. I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something. supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing. you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution. Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players. Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss. i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast? Both MaNa and Naniwa are better than Feast. The thing is, neither of them did participate in any tournaments so far.Feast is, in my opinion, slightly ahead of ReaL, just as Grubby is. They qualified for some major events coming soon, we should wait to say things like this. Also, ReaLs performance in HSC4 was terrible, he played a ton of sloppy games :/ Of course NaNi, did notreally count him cause he has like 0 exposurei n EU 2012 =/
You cant have that much exposure in 2012. Grubby qualified for MLG, MaNa had no major tournaments so far.
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