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On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even).
Really I should say 'arguably' the best.
If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji
Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking
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why is real never building workers
i dont get this strat without workers
how is it supposed to work?
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3/3 upgrades in to colossus in to storm in to gg - happening
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he has +3+3 but no splash whatsoever against maxed out terran... hm
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On February 12 2012 02:02 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense. I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something. supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing. you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution. Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players. Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss. i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast? Both MaNa and Naniwa are better than Feast. The thing is, neither of them did participate in any tournaments so far.Feast is, in my opinion, slightly ahead of ReaL, just as Grubby is. They qualified for some major events coming soon, we should wait to say things like this. Also, ReaLs performance in HSC4 was terrible, he played a ton of sloppy games :/
I wouldnt really compare players like Sase, Nani, and ToD with the EU players any longer, because it seems to be huge gap between them.
But looking at the latest months, IMO the european top protosses are Grubby, Nightend, Pomi, Feast, Socke etc.
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On February 12 2012 02:07 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even). Really I should say 'arguably' the best. If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking
And since when losing to MMA is a sign of a bad player?
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I love how the PvX metagame right now contains deliciously fast ground upgrades
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On February 12 2012 02:07 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:07 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even). Really I should say 'arguably' the best. If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking And since when losing to MMA is a sign of a bad player?
You'd have to add that MMA BARELY win the serie too.
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The terran player just got Supernova and is on a killing spree.
edit: or not.
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upgrades pretty good. but still, gotta kill nova RIGHT NOW.
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with that base dead this is becomin much more all in. i don't know why he wouldnt take the pocket expansion since he isnt putting his army out in the middle of the map
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Terran won. No mining for Protoss.
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I LOVE how mrbitter's voice just turned when he says "everything?"
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On February 12 2012 02:07 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:07 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even). Really I should say 'arguably' the best. If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking And since when losing to MMA is a sign of a bad player?
Someone said that he lost to MMA and that was proof that Oz was not the best as MMA's worst matchup is TvP
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On February 12 2012 02:08 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:07 ceaRshaf wrote:On February 12 2012 02:07 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
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If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even). Really I should say 'arguably' the best. If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking And since when losing to MMA is a sign of a bad player? You'd have to add that MMA BARELY win the serie too.
Because MMA has never been known for any brilliance in TvP?
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On February 12 2012 02:07 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:05 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 02:03 0ne wrote:On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?
where is the "sad terran" fanclub? L O L If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months... Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o tvz, but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame? These are the two that immediately come to mind Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world) Don't make claims like that. Oz is not the best PvT in the world. He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments Don't be stupid? You can easily see Oz isn't with his 41% win rate v T in Korea. There's plenty of protoss far above that (with more games even). Really I should say 'arguably' the best. If you watched Ro16 this week you would have seen the epic close PartinG vs Jjakji game and Oz also have an incredibly close 2-3 game against Jjakji Yeah Oz lost against MMA but he has a thing for choking
And Oz TLPD isn't relevant as it's plagued from his days in FXO (foreign), when he was still a mediocre player and accumulated a lot of loses.
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On February 12 2012 02:07 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 02:02 Tarotis wrote:On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense. I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something. supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing. you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution. Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players. Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss. i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast? Both MaNa and Naniwa are better than Feast. The thing is, neither of them did participate in any tournaments so far.Feast is, in my opinion, slightly ahead of ReaL, just as Grubby is. They qualified for some major events coming soon, we should wait to say things like this. Also, ReaLs performance in HSC4 was terrible, he played a ton of sloppy games :/ I wouldnt really compare players like Sase, Nani, and ToD with the EU players any longer, because it seems to be huge gap between them. But looking at the latest months, IMO the european top protosses are Grubby, Nightend, Pomi, Feast, Socke etc.
MaNa is still europeans top protoss in my opinion if you eliminate the korean europeans like Nani
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Upgrades are fine. But being 2 base vs 4 base is not helping much.
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EPT
