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KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
February 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#341
On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys

Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense.

I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something.


supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing.
you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution.

Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players.


Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss.


i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast?
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#342
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)

how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so...
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#343
On February 12 2012 01:57 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?

Which T and P players do you qualify as equally skilled? There aren't that many prevalent Code S protoss in the GSL besides MC, Genius Puzzle, Oz and maybe Parting based on his recent performance.

Not to mention that all of those have been playing really impressivly lately. In other words, you can't blame the fact that they've been winning many PvTs lately as imbalance. That's like actually arguing that Terran is OP in BW just because of Flash. It just doesn't work like that.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
February 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#344
On February 12 2012 01:59 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Well you mentioned the need for a "sad terran fanclub" but then when someone mentioned a very recent tournament where a Terran won a major tournament, you just dismiss it as TvZ and then proceed to QQ about TvP? :-/

Also you said...

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?


I'm going to guess that it won't be a PvP final....

because if i said "sad terran vs protoss fanclub" i would be banned for it >_<
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
giorgio
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland32 Posts
February 11 2012 17:00 GMT
#345
On February 12 2012 01:56 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

blizzard Cup, WCG, GSL, AOL, BlizzCon...


Still only korea PRO terran, where is eu or na terran players ? (terran is the skillest race in game so pro play terran IMO)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#346
If you want to see what a real beautiful storm is, open the KSL stream...the game is fantastic (EXTreme vs IMhappy)
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#347
On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys

Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense.

I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something.


supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing.
you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution.

Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players.


Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss.


i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast?

he's way better than feast... their series didn't really say much
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#348
On February 12 2012 02:00 woob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:59 Chicane wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Well you mentioned the need for a "sad terran fanclub" but then when someone mentioned a very recent tournament where a Terran won a major tournament, you just dismiss it as TvZ and then proceed to QQ about TvP? :-/

Also you said...

On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?


I'm going to guess that it won't be a PvP final....

because if i said "sad terran vs protoss fanclub" i would be banned for it >_<

You may be banned either way for making a sad terran/marine fanclub -.-;;
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#349
hahaha we come in peace... rotti <3
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:03:05
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#350
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


These are the two that immediately come to mind
Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)


Don't make claims like that.

Oz is not the best PvT in the world. (He's even 41% win rate against T in the TLPD)
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
February 11 2012 17:01 GMT
#351
go go ret !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 17:04:21
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#352
On February 12 2012 01:55 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys

Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense.

I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something.


Real has played way, way better than anyone of those guys in 2012.

Well Bischu hasnt really played any events in 2012, and I'd consider Sockes run in HSC 4 more impressive than Reals (Who IMO was very lucky with his groups).
Maybe I didnt really give the best example of players, but I wouldnt consider Real up there with the top tosses in EU.
If we're talking about 2012 I'd say Feast, Pomi and Grubby have been a lot more impressive than Real so far.
Tur
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil263 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#353
Just arrived at Campus Party, the place has more people than expected, will try to take some pics to post later.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#354
On February 12 2012 02:00 giorgio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:56 Tarotis wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

blizzard Cup, WCG, GSL, AOL, BlizzCon...


Still only korea PRO terran, where is eu or na terran players ? (terran is the skillest race in game so pro play terran IMO)


What the hell it has to do with a LR?

I've got moves like Jagger
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#355
On February 12 2012 01:57 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?

Puma vs Hero NASL


HerO is one of the worst PvT in korea atm. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#356
On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)

how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so...


Name me someone who is better.

And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#357
On February 12 2012 02:00 KroN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:58 Seraphone wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:57 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 Eee wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 hrvoje07 wrote:
Excuses for supernova have already started, atleast wait till series is over guys

Well, Supernova is a Code S player and Real isn't even near the level of the top tier toss players in EU (Bling, TITAN, Bischu, Socke etc.). Even in EU he's known for being a notorious cheeser who doesn't really win macro games against anyone, and he's beating supernova (a guy who beat MC in GSL just some weeks ago). It doesn¨t really make any sense.

I'd be the same if Catz was winning a bo5 against aLive or something.


supernova almost lost to slivko. got completely outplayed and won cause slivko made 1 bad decision of basetradeing.
you overrate the shit out of him and you make it sound like real is some super noob. real practise with mma and in general has sick builds with sick execution.

Real is not a supernoob, but he's not near the top tier EU protosses. I'm not overrating SuperNoVa, but anyone who has watched SuperNoVas usual play knows his playing below his standards by far. Real practicing with MMA? that's a really stupid argument since SuperNoVa practices with pretty much all of the korean top tier players.


Real has played better in 2012 than any other EU Protoss.


i dont really like ReaL but this guy has a point :D, he did get pretty good results. i guess he is pretty on par with Feast?

Both MaNa and Naniwa are better than Feast. The thing is, neither of them did participate in any tournaments so far.Feast is, in my opinion, slightly ahead of ReaL, just as Grubby is. They qualified for some major events coming soon, we should wait to say things like this. Also, ReaLs performance in HSC4 was terrible, he played a ton of sloppy games :/
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#358
On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)

how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so...


Name me someone who is better.

And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.

MC? Parting?
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
February 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#359
On February 12 2012 02:02 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:00 Olinimm wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)

how is oz best PvT? he had one decent season. And now he lost to MMA so...


Name me someone who is better.

And don't go to TLPD as Moletrap did that at GSTL and got flamed like fuck in the thread because everyone agreed that PvT is his best.

Puzzle?
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
February 11 2012 17:03 GMT
#360
On February 12 2012 02:01 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:59 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:55 woob wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:54 OrangeSoda wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:52 giorgio wrote:
On February 12 2012 01:48 woob wrote:
PvP final maybe?

where is the "sad terran" fanclub?


L O L

If u watching last tournaments u should know terran dont won any big tournament last months...


Jjajkji vs leenock?o_o

tvz,

but when has a top tier terran won a game vs an equally skilled protoss in the lategame?


These are the two that immediately come to mind
Jjakji 3 - 0 Puzzle
Jjakji 3 - 2 Oz (best PvT in the world)


Don't make claims like that.

Oz is not the best PvT in the world.

He can't prove he is and you can't prove he isn't. Don't start silly arguments
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