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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 08 2012 11:09 GMT
#1861
ganzi is going to autolose against Parting if he wins here, lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
February 08 2012 11:09 GMT
#1862
On February 08 2012 20:05 HolyArrow wrote:
Sure, MorroW plays the game and knows a ton more than any other poster in this thread, but I hiiiiighly doubt that every pro (who practices as much as MorroW, and likely knows the game as well as him) agrees with him. We see professional players balancing whining in favor of their race all the time, and to me, that tells me that despite how much they know about the game, pros are only human and are thus subject to the same pitfalls of bias as any other person is. Honestly, I'd love to see perhaps a section of TL forums that only allows pros to post so we can actually see them debate balance instead of just having random pros wander into LR threads and balance whine under the justification that they play and understand the game a ton more than other posters in the thread. It just causes a dumb shitstorm, every time.

Doesn't SotG already do that though?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 11:10:28
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1863
On February 08 2012 20:08 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:05 Fearest wrote:
Jjakji needs to winn and just 1-1-1 follow by 2-2-2 and 3-3-3 to kill Parting

The difference is tho, that if you don't win with a 1-1-1, you're behind, or even if you manage to kill enough to be even, you'll still have to deal with Protoss's strong lategame against Terran; however, this 3-gate expand pressure by P doesn't even put them behind even if they don't attack...


Funny, I've recently seen games, like ForGG v MC I believe, where ForGG went for a very fast third command center in base, then just rallied units at MC until he died. But apparently that's completely different, right? Protoss 2 imba.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1864
i love doing this build in TvT
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
MurrV
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden37 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1865
Boss toss is back :D
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1866
nadal-djokovic was better than leenock-jjakji
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1867
On February 08 2012 20:09 ThatGuy89 wrote:
wow were MCs game just cheesey or something? surprised to see so many bad votes

as usual
pvt 6gate
pvp 4gate 1base, then dt 1base
No carpal tunnel no skill
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1868
On February 08 2012 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:07 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the bottom right is Ganzi

In the top left is JJakji

3:00


factory opening from JJakji while Ganzi gets a reaper in order to scout jjakji's base however his scv scouts a lot on its own.

A reactor now starts on the barracks of JJakji and ganzi just expands


5:00


The reaper does a lot of damage and survives with red health.

A starport for JJakji and Ganzi now with a bunker in anticipation of JJakji's hellions for Ganzi


6:40


Viking after a medivac for JJakji while prparing for a elevator into the main.

The elevator works and ganzi does not have enough units to prevent it attacking the Main CC
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1869
On February 08 2012 20:07 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:05 HolyArrow wrote:
Sure, MorroW plays the game and knows a ton more than any other poster in this thread, but I hiiiiighly doubt that every pro (who practices as much as MorroW, and likely knows the game as well as him) agrees with him. We see professional players balancing whining in favor of their race all the time, and to me, that tells me that despite how much they know about the game, pros are only human and are thus subject to the same pitfalls of bias as any other person is. Honestly, I'd love to see perhaps a section of TL forums that only allows pros to post so we can actually see them debate balance instead of just having random pros wander into LR threads and balance whine under the justification that they play and understand the game a ton more than other posters in the thread. It just causes a dumb shitstorm, every time.


MorroW plays Zerg and then plays Terran against Zerg to avoid playing a ZvZ mirror. What does he have to personally gain from a TvP balance point? Nothing.

If that leads to some nerf to Protoss, then sure he does gain something. And even if he doesn't gain something it doesn't mean he's automatically right. Aside from that he was a Terran player and as you say plays Terran in TvZ so he's not unbiased when it comes to Terran.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1870
On February 08 2012 20:07 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:05 HolyArrow wrote:
Sure, MorroW plays the game and knows a ton more than any other poster in this thread, but I hiiiiighly doubt that every pro (who practices as much as MorroW, and likely knows the game as well as him) agrees with him. We see professional players balancing whining in favor of their race all the time, and to me, that tells me that despite how much they know about the game, pros are only human and are thus subject to the same pitfalls of bias as any other person is. Honestly, I'd love to see perhaps a section of TL forums that only allows pros to post so we can actually see them debate balance instead of just having random pros wander into LR threads and balance whine under the justification that they play and understand the game a ton more than other posters in the thread. It just causes a dumb shitstorm, every time.


MorroW plays Zerg and then plays Terran against Zerg to avoid playing a ZvZ mirror. What does he have to personally gain from a TvP balance point? Nothing.


Even if I concede that he has nothing to personally gain from making a TvP balance point, my point that other pros don't share his exact opinions still stands, and that was the main point that I wanted to make.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1871
Ganzi just got owned
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1872
NICE JJAKJI
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1873
Ganzi just died lol.. amazing build
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1874
shortest TvT ever!
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 08 2012 11:10 GMT
#1875
wtf, why are tastosis so surprised......
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#1876
I've been getting owned by this build lately on the KR ladder.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#1877
SUP SON.

JJAKJI <333333333
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#1878
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

Yes (14)
 
67%

No (4)
 
19%

If you have time (3)
 
14%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#1879
lol how did that happen
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#1880
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

C'MON GANZI YOU CAN DO IT
#freeshauni
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