EPT[IPL] FC8: Nerchio vs Jjakji - Page 4
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Motoorhead
Poland67 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19383 Posts
On January 28 2012 02:25 Motoorhead wrote: edit. Don't insult other countries, it's ignorant and unnecessary. On topic: Nerchio is very impressive and I would have a hard time believing he could win but think about it, MVP and Nestea lost games to Naniwa so anything can happen. User was warned for this post | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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honed
Canada482 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
since it's online, won't be as bad, but jjaki should take this relatively easily, he's on a whole different level than nerchio | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On January 27 2012 23:23 frucisky wrote: Stephano's and maybe Dimaga are the only Zergs that could potentially beat Jjakji. This will be a slaughter imo Jjakki was one of the very few players in Korea Stephano coulnt beat. However the matches was amasing. close and very intence but still stephano is down 0-3 to Jjakji | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 27 2012 06:37 MrMercuG wrote: Jjakji beat Leenock, while both Mvp and MMA failed in taking him down (also IMHappy's 89% winrate in vZ) Mvp and MMA's style were much more known at the time, allowing Leenock to study them and devise strategies designed to stopping everything they throw at him. Jjakji, on the other hand, was less known, especially in the TvZ matchup, and had a whole week to study Leenock's playstyle and preferences while Leenock didn't know that much about Jjakji and how he plays (macro, harassment/aggressive or likes all-in etc). I'm sure if you put Mvp or MMA against Leenock in a finals and gave them a week to prepare, they'd be much more motivated and would stand a better chance of taking down Leenock than meeting him in a semi-final/group stage. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On January 28 2012 13:34 Inflicted_ wrote: Mvp and MMA's style were much more known at the time, allowing Leenock to study them and devise strategies designed to stopping everything they throw at him. Jjakji, on the other hand, was less known, especially in the TvZ matchup, and had a whole week to study Leenock's playstyle and preferences while Leenock didn't know that much about Jjakji and how he plays (macro, harassment/aggressive or likes all-in etc). I'm sure if you put Mvp or MMA against Leenock in a finals and gave them a week to prepare, they'd be much more motivated and would stand a better chance of taking down Leenock than meeting him in a semi-final/group stage. What you know about a player != what Korean pros know about another Korean pro. Leenock and his coaches likely had a pretty good grasp on Jjakji's typical playstyle because he's been known to be good in practice for quite a while (his coach said he was a player to look out for in that initial NSH house video Artosis did lol). MVP also got something like 4 days to prepare for his semi-final against Leenock, and they both came from Providence, so it was totally even footing. MVP & MMA are undoubtedly more accomplished players, and any ranking should currently put them above Jjakji, but based on the recent TvZ's they've played Jjakji seems the strongest. Didn't he even say after the November semi's that he doesn't really lose to zerg? Basically, the guy is sick good. If Nerchio can take this it'd be pretty shocking. | ||
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
i think jajkji will win but i hope we will see good games | ||
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Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On January 28 2012 13:42 Jehct wrote: What you know about a player != what Korean pros know about another Korean pro. Leenock and his coaches likely had a pretty good grasp on Jjakji's typical playstyle because he's been known to be good in practice for quite a while (his coach said he was a player to look out for in that initial NSH house video Artosis did lol). MVP also got something like 4 days to prepare for his semi-final against Leenock, and they both came from Providence, so it was totally even footing. MVP & MMA are undoubtedly more accomplished players, and any ranking should currently put them above Jjakji, but based on the recent TvZ's they've played Jjakji seems the strongest. Didn't he even say after the November semi's that he doesn't really lose to zerg? Basically, the guy is sick good. If Nerchio can take this it'd be pretty shocking. yeah i agree. we're not talking about a foreigner terran. Jjakji's tvz seems just too solid for any foreigner zerg to beat him. i would be surprised if nerchio takes even one game (if jjakji takes the thing seriously even a bit). | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 28 2012 13:42 Jehct wrote: What you know about a player != what Korean pros know about another Korean pro. Leenock and his coaches likely had a pretty good grasp on Jjakji's typical playstyle because he's been known to be good in practice for quite a while (his coach said he was a player to look out for in that initial NSH house video Artosis did lol). MVP also got something like 4 days to prepare for his semi-final against Leenock, and they both came from Providence, so it was totally even footing. MVP & MMA are undoubtedly more accomplished players, and any ranking should currently put them above Jjakji, but based on the recent TvZ's they've played Jjakji seems the strongest. Didn't he even say after the November semi's that he doesn't really lose to zerg? Basically, the guy is sick good. If Nerchio can take this it'd be pretty shocking. I'm not saying he isn't good, but to consider him above MMA/Mvp in TvZ because he was able to beat Leenock once is a bit far fetched. | ||
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Azuroz
Sweden1630 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On January 28 2012 22:12 Inflicted_ wrote: I'm not saying he isn't good, but to consider him above MMA/Mvp in TvZ because he was able to beat Leenock once is a bit far fetched. imo there is no direct causailty. you can consider him above mma/mvp but not simply just because he beat leenock. rather because you watch him play and have an overall feel about his ability. all of that is subjective of course. all3 of them are top notch in the matchup, and people tend to bias cuz they like the person/style. noone is arguing about achievements, mma/mvp have more than jjakji that's obvious, | ||
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QNdie
Poland210 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
I suspect at least 5-2, maybe 5-3. Nerchio still doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, but they could be good games anyway. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On January 28 2012 22:50 SeaSwift wrote: Last IPL fight club the two casters were hyping this one up as "insane". I doubt they would be so enthusiastic about these games if it was a 5-0 or 5-1 in Jjakji's favour. I suspect at least 5-2, maybe 5-3. Nerchio still doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, but they could be good games anyway. donno i personally still find the MVP vs Top gsl finals insane and MVP pretty much destroyed Top there, so that's not a clear assumtion what you're saying | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On January 27 2012 04:23 Canucklehead wrote: We heard the same story at home story before nerchio played MC. Then MC proceeded to stomp nerchio without even breaking a sweat. well ZvP is nerchios worst matchup by far tho | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:48 sVnteen wrote: well ZvP is nerchios worst matchup by far tho And MC is the best Protoss in the world, and punished Nerchio with his PvZ which MC went back to Korea and solved just before going to HSC. Also, for the comparison with Stephano further up the quote train, Stephano has also never taken a single map off of MC. Using MC as a reference point to show how bad Nerchio is in a completely difference matchup against a different style of player is not very useful. | ||
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