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On January 30 2012 04:47 Olinimm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 02:29 cyclone25 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:19 Seraphone wrote:On January 30 2012 02:02 Pulimuli wrote:On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote: well this two are very equally matched Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner. wut? he's easily Code A No he's not. He's worse than Thorzain, Sase and Naniwa who were all stomped in Code A in some cases multiple times. You're Code A material when you actually go to Korea and win multiple series in Code A or better yet actually qualify (something no foreigner has ever done). Just curious, do you get paid to defend the koreans so much in every thread? Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (Code S champion). This match proves that there is no skill gap at the top level. End of story. If you want to prove that koreans dominate the foreigners go post it in threads where that happened, because this showmatch doesn't help your cause mate. ROFLLLL. This has to be trolling. Right?
I'm not trolling, just go and read the OP of this thread. It clearly says ... Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (GSL Champion).
This thread had become the home ground of those who think there is no skill gap at the top level. Just like the IPL 3 thread where Stephano won 4-0 vs a Code S player.
If you want to talk about Koreans owning the foreigners go bump the HSC4 thread. Just don't do it in this thread, because it's clearly off topic (the result in OP proves you wrong!).
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On January 30 2012 04:57 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 04:47 Olinimm wrote:On January 30 2012 02:29 cyclone25 wrote:On January 30 2012 02:19 Seraphone wrote:On January 30 2012 02:02 Pulimuli wrote:On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote: well this two are very equally matched Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner. wut? he's easily Code A No he's not. He's worse than Thorzain, Sase and Naniwa who were all stomped in Code A in some cases multiple times. You're Code A material when you actually go to Korea and win multiple series in Code A or better yet actually qualify (something no foreigner has ever done). Just curious, do you get paid to defend the koreans so much in every thread? Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (Code S champion). This match proves that there is no skill gap at the top level. End of story. If you want to prove that koreans dominate the foreigners go post it in threads where that happened, because this showmatch doesn't help your cause mate. ROFLLLL. This has to be trolling. Right? I'm not trolling, just go and read the OP of this thread. It clearly says ... Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (GSL Champion). This thread had become the home ground of those who think there is no skill gap at the top level. Just like the IPL 3 thread where Stephano won 4-0 vs a Code S player. If you want to talk about Koreans owning the foreigners go bump the HSC4 thread. Just don't do it in this thread, because it's clearly off topic (the result in OP proves you wrong!). Umm no it doesn't. The results in one online showmatch don't prove that. What proves there is a skillgap is 2 years of results.
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On January 30 2012 04:55 mijagi182 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 04:38 blade55555 wrote: I did enjoy this series was fun to watch. Watching nerchio go muta's though made me cry because he had bad control over them lag  anyway nerchio almost never goes Muta and he hates banelings (never does bane speed) so its no secret he isnt master of the style, and you better be one when facing GSL champ...
I guess it's entirely up to him, but banelings just seem to be a key part of ZvT to me.
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I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
Such a level headed guy you are Nerchio. You made a fan out of me. I'll be rooting for you from now on.
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
Thumbs up as always bro. Excuses will always be made, people will always complain but at the end of the day results are all that matter.
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Nerchio <3 TB <3
And Jjakji is sick too
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haters gonna hate but it's safe to say that nerchio gained many fans doing this series so thumbs up for him!
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately We certainly hope that you continue competing in anything that we have going on. We consistently talk about you in the office with high regard and hope we can see you at IPL 4 soon. =)
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Well played Nerchio, unlucky.
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
Nerchio, you just made a fan out of me. Grats on the great series, and keep up the good work!
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately Don't let the men get you down. You won't know how the game would have ended on a lan event until you tried. Believ, so we can believe, too!
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Wow seems like Nerchio really put up a fight, niceee
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On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote: well this two are very equally matched Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner.
Actually they were playing korea to NA and EU to NA so they both had some lag.
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote: I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
I don't know what lately means but top 5 of the ladder and a good run in HSC (there's no shame of beeing stomped by MC), it looks pretty decent 
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
you should definitely keep playing man, your results being slightly less good than they have been in the past doesn't mean you're falling off. i'm sure you can work out whatever's been keeping you from dominating as hard as you used to.
great match you played there, and also a great post you made there. you just made me a fan.
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
We all love you, keep at it man!
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Much respect to Nerchio for that post.
With that said, it's kind of sad that some people actually think there's little to no skill gap between top-level Koreans and Europeans. The typical pattern seems to be: Foreigner does well against top Korean in cross-server play -> Foreigner fanboys overrate player ("Oh, he could easily hang with the top Koreans!") -> Foreigner ends up getting stomped at a LAN event like MLG/GSL/IEM -> Fanboys are let down (and rightly so).
Seriously, I have no problem with people acknowledging that various foreign players are really damn good, but when you try to claim that they can hang with Korea's top talent on the mere basis of laggy cross-server play while LAN event results and the superior practice infrastructure Koreans have completely say otherwise, you look rather stupid.
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On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
This makes me appreciate you as a person
(You're a very good player too ^^ )
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Wow just watched this series pretty fantastic. IPL you rock getting jjakji and Nerchio too for a hell of a close series.
I said in his fan club months ago he is best foreign Zerg... nice to see him proving it.
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