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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 29 2012 19:57 GMT
#701
On January 30 2012 04:47 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 02:29 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 30 2012 02:19 Seraphone wrote:
On January 30 2012 02:02 Pulimuli wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote:
well this two are very equally matched


Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner.



wut? he's easily Code A


No he's not. He's worse than Thorzain, Sase and Naniwa who were all stomped in Code A in some cases multiple times.

You're Code A material when you actually go to Korea and win multiple series in Code A or better yet actually qualify (something no foreigner has ever done).


Just curious, do you get paid to defend the koreans so much in every thread?

Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (Code S champion). This match proves that there is no skill gap at the top level. End of story.

If you want to prove that koreans dominate the foreigners go post it in threads where that happened, because this showmatch doesn't help your cause mate.

ROFLLLL. This has to be trolling. Right?


I'm not trolling, just go and read the OP of this thread. It clearly says ... Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (GSL Champion).

This thread had become the home ground of those who think there is no skill gap at the top level. Just like the IPL 3 thread where Stephano won 4-0 vs a Code S player.

If you want to talk about Koreans owning the foreigners go bump the HSC4 thread. Just don't do it in this thread, because it's clearly off topic (the result in OP proves you wrong!).
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 20:00:18
January 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#702
On January 30 2012 04:57 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 04:47 Olinimm wrote:
On January 30 2012 02:29 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 30 2012 02:19 Seraphone wrote:
On January 30 2012 02:02 Pulimuli wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:
On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote:
well this two are very equally matched


Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner.



wut? he's easily Code A


No he's not. He's worse than Thorzain, Sase and Naniwa who were all stomped in Code A in some cases multiple times.

You're Code A material when you actually go to Korea and win multiple series in Code A or better yet actually qualify (something no foreigner has ever done).


Just curious, do you get paid to defend the koreans so much in every thread?

Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (Code S champion). This match proves that there is no skill gap at the top level. End of story.

If you want to prove that koreans dominate the foreigners go post it in threads where that happened, because this showmatch doesn't help your cause mate.

ROFLLLL. This has to be trolling. Right?


I'm not trolling, just go and read the OP of this thread. It clearly says ... Nerchio 4-5 Jjakji (GSL Champion).

This thread had become the home ground of those who think there is no skill gap at the top level. Just like the IPL 3 thread where Stephano won 4-0 vs a Code S player.

If you want to talk about Koreans owning the foreigners go bump the HSC4 thread. Just don't do it in this thread, because it's clearly off topic (the result in OP proves you wrong!).

Umm no it doesn't. The results in one online showmatch don't prove that. What proves there is a skillgap is 2 years of results.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#703
On January 30 2012 04:55 mijagi182 wrote:
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On January 30 2012 04:38 blade55555 wrote:
I did enjoy this series was fun to watch. Watching nerchio go muta's though made me cry because he had bad control over them


lag

anyway nerchio almost never goes Muta and he hates banelings (never does bane speed) so its no secret he isnt master of the style, and you better be one when facing GSL champ...


I guess it's entirely up to him, but banelings just seem to be a key part of ZvT to me.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
January 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#704
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 20:09:37
January 29 2012 20:09 GMT
#705
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


Such a level headed guy you are Nerchio. You made a fan out of me. I'll be rooting for you from now on.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 29 2012 20:14 GMT
#706
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


Thumbs up as always bro. Excuses will always be made, people will always complain but at the end of the day results are all that matter.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#707
Nerchio <3
TB <3

And Jjakji is sick too
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#708
haters gonna hate but it's safe to say that nerchio gained many fans doing this series so thumbs up for him!
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
January 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#709
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately

We certainly hope that you continue competing in anything that we have going on. We consistently talk about you in the office with high regard and hope we can see you at IPL 4 soon. =)
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1994 Posts
January 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#710
Well played Nerchio, unlucky.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Deindar
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
January 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#711
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


Nerchio, you just made a fan out of me. Grats on the great series, and keep up the good work!
EG|Liquid|QxG|DTG fighting!
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
January 29 2012 21:08 GMT
#712
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately

Don't let the men get you down. You won't know how the game would have ended on a lan event until you tried. Believ, so we can believe, too!
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#713
Wow seems like Nerchio really put up a fight, niceee
This is our town, scrub
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
January 29 2012 22:51 GMT
#714
On January 29 2012 16:54 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 16:51 HQuality wrote:
well this two are very equally matched


Jjakji is a GSL Code S championship. How does playing on a laggy KR - EU connection and still winning say they are equally matched. Nerchio isn't even Code A material man, same as every other foreigner.


Actually they were playing korea to NA and EU to NA so they both had some lag.
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
January 29 2012 23:01 GMT
#715
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


I don't know what lately means but top 5 of the ladder and a good run in HSC (there's no shame of beeing stomped by MC), it looks pretty decent
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 29 2012 23:07 GMT
#716
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


you should definitely keep playing man, your results being slightly less good than they have been in the past doesn't mean you're falling off. i'm sure you can work out whatever's been keeping you from dominating as hard as you used to.

great match you played there, and also a great post you made there. you just made me a fan.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
January 29 2012 23:42 GMT
#717
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


We all love you, keep at it man!
Head of New Business at Team Kinguin :: https://www.teamkinguin.com
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 29 2012 23:53 GMT
#718
Much respect to Nerchio for that post.

With that said, it's kind of sad that some people actually think there's little to no skill gap between top-level Koreans and Europeans. The typical pattern seems to be: Foreigner does well against top Korean in cross-server play -> Foreigner fanboys overrate player ("Oh, he could easily hang with the top Koreans!") -> Foreigner ends up getting stomped at a LAN event like MLG/GSL/IEM -> Fanboys are let down (and rightly so).

Seriously, I have no problem with people acknowledging that various foreign players are really damn good, but when you try to claim that they can hang with Korea's top talent on the mere basis of laggy cross-server play while LAN event results and the superior practice infrastructure Koreans have completely say otherwise, you look rather stupid.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44631 Posts
January 30 2012 00:08 GMT
#719
On January 30 2012 04:59 Nerchio wrote:
I like reading about me and i could tell before the match was broadcasted, into what this thread is going to turn. Undeniably Jjakji is much better player than me and everybody knows that. If we played on 'lan' he would probably destroy me X-0 or X-1 and he obviously took this match not that seriously. He even said that it was lagging for him at some point but i don't think the lags are that big as some people say it is. I admit that in ZvT the lag favours Z more since T requires to do a lot of splitting. Nevertheless, the match was entertaining for me to play and i was really tired after all the maps since it was like 2,5 hours of playing and that's a really long time without any breaks which koreans are more used to i guess. I liked it and don't take this match as a thing that can decide whether i am on code S or code A level, i don't really care because there is no point in speculating like that(even if it might be fun). You can say as well that we can't tell how Jjakji would do in European tournaments because he didn't attend any
I hope i can continue playing Sc2 though because i do badly lately


This makes me appreciate you as a person

(You're a very good player too ^^ )
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 00:48:17
January 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#720
Wow just watched this series pretty fantastic. IPL you rock getting jjakji and Nerchio too for a hell of a close series.

I said in his fan club months ago he is best foreign Zerg... nice to see him proving it.
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