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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:55 GMT
#3741
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-

15:30


MVP IS BUILDING A RAVEN!

16:20


Mech +2 for MVP

Mutas for Lucky

Hive for lucky

MVP has a raven


17:40


MVP has a raven

MVP is moving out

MVP has a raven!

Lucky getting a greater spire

MVP HAS A RAVEN!


20:00


Spine wall for Lucky while getting infesters

More factories and mech +3 for MVP

Who let me remind you has a raven
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 11 2012 11:55 GMT
#3742
Whats up with 0 creep spread from Lucky?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3743
On January 11 2012 20:52 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:48 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:45 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:43 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:39 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:37 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:36 gullberg wrote:
Sen and Idra smacked in the first round. No need to waste invites :p


Yeah seeding foreigners seem like a total flop now.


Might want to look at Chae's interview, its going to stay and the reasoning is sound.


In fact, Chae says in the interview that they might invite players that the sponsors want. Oh yeah, isnt that just lovely.


Which is important, and additionally he wants the league to be "Global". Might want to take the Football WorldCup example into perspective, instead of just looking at the reason you want to hate on and be sarcastic about.


Oh so the world cup invites countrys the sponsors want? No, perhaps you have heard about world cup qualifiers?

Of course world cup favors 'popular' choices over actually skill. They just do it more subtly, by rationing out seeds.

Does the Asian Football federation really need 4.5 slots to qualify for the World Cup? Does "Oceania" need any slots at all? Why does Concacaf have more than 2 slots when the only relevant countries are Mexico and the USA? Why doesnt Africa, Europe and South America get more?


I dont even see why you had to argue this point when it was painfully obvious, I pray that his inability to not take the parable literally and just understand the framework behind it was just trolling and not a lack of brain cells.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3744
On January 11 2012 20:37 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:36 gullberg wrote:
Sen and Idra smacked in the first round. No need to waste invites :p


Yeah seeding foreigners seem like a total flop now.



Why is it always the guys from Sweden bashing the foreigner seeds? Not trying to be racist, or condescending.. I'm actually curious... South Korean seems to be fine with it, most of Europe/NA seems to be fine with it.. but every time I see a negative post regarding the foreigner seed, its by someone from Sweden.

This wouldn't be because of Naniwa's snub now, would it?
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3745
On January 11 2012 20:50 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:42 aderum wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:40 synaptik wrote:
gomtv only seeds the foreigners to code S to show how far ahead the koreans are.


Guess we dont count nanis victorys in mlg global over neaste and mvp.


So what? He can beat Koreans when they are not at 100%? What has he done inside of Korea? He beat MVP in his worse matchup with a base trade, when MVP didn't prep for Naniwa (pretty sure MVP expected Nestea to win). Part of what makes Koreans good is their intensive preparation before matches. When you don't prep sc2 is not mechanically difficult enough to always ensure that the better player wins. And don't even bother to mention MLG Providence where he started with a massive seeding advantage. Considering that he never changed his build against Leenock who did the same counter every game, it reasonable to assume that Naniwa was going to use the same build every game. IF he had to go through the ENTIRE open bracket like Nestea and many other Koreans did, SOMEONE would've hard countered him the same way Leenock did WAY before he made it to the finals. Also this isn't even taking into consideration fatigue. The sheer amount of games unseeded players and even lower seeded players had to go through makes endurance more important than actual skill. Yet in the end, he got rolled by a player that went through the ENTIRE open bracket, and championship bracket.


If im not mistaken the mgl global was played the first day so you cant blame it on fatigue from open bracket. And mvp and nestea had loads of time to prepare for the naniwa game in the mlg global. Why would you think otherwise? They new they were playing eachother beforehand just like a code s grp.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 11:56:34
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3746
Nydus is a nice choice from Lucky.

MVP seems to have watched Goody play Mech, just as passive as he always is.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3747
On January 11 2012 20:55 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:54 Seeker wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:53 Elem wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:52 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:51 bittman wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:50 Seeker wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Sick timin attack from Lux -__-


Playing LoL recently?

She's my main rofl

Nah..... Veigar all the way.

Though I should probably start playing Lux. I hear she's fun


Please, Maokai just doesn't die. I'm not there for a good k-d haha


Lux doesn't die if played correctly
Lux is just a bad Morgana~

My absolute fav is Kennen though XD
God damn chipmunks.

I believe he's a mouse
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3748
On January 11 2012 20:55 Bagi wrote:
Whats up with 0 creep spread from Lucky?


MVP got raven and is killing creep with hellions
I'm getting the derection.
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3749
zerg still has 0 in armour upgrade !
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3750
Ultra tech is going too, they are great with nydus.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 11:57:34
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3751
On January 11 2012 20:54 karpo wrote:
Do professional soccer leagues seed teams based on sponsors? Never heard of that.

I don't know what soccer is, but they do in football.

Guess why they seed teams in CL based on their previous performances? They want all the good teams to go through, it attracts more viewers and therefore generates more money. And money is everything FIFA/UEFA care about.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3752
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-

15:30


MVP IS BUILDING A RAVEN!

16:20


Mech +2 for MVP

Mutas for Lucky

Hive for lucky

MVP has a raven

17:40


MVP has a raven

MVP is moving out

MVP has a raven!

Lucky getting a greater spire

MVP HAS A RAVEN!


20:00


Spine wall for Lucky while getting infesters

More factories and mech +3 for MVP

Who let me remind you has a raven


21:00


Ultra cavern and a nydus for Lucky
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3753
On January 11 2012 20:54 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-

15:30


MVP IS BUILDING A RAVEN!


16:20


Mech +2 for MVP

Mutas for Lucky

Hive for lucky

MVP has a raven


17:40


MVP has a raven

MVP is moving out

MVP has a raven!

Lucky getting a greater spire

MVP HAS A RAVEN!

You forgot to mention how MVP has a raven!!!
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 11:58:32
January 11 2012 11:56 GMT
#3754
On January 11 2012 20:52 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:49 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:46 Azarkon wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:44 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:39 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:37 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:36 gullberg wrote:
Sen and Idra smacked in the first round. No need to waste invites :p


Yeah seeding foreigners seem like a total flop now.


Might want to look at Chae's interview, its going to stay and the reasoning is sound.


If this keeps up the invites are flops regardless of reasoning. Sure koreans get seeds into foreigner tournaments but i'm pretty sure they place we'll overall. What's the code A/S foreigner invite results so far? Pretty horrible.


Whether they are flops or not does not depend on whether the players place well. It depends on whether it draws in more viewers. This isn't very hard to understand.


I guess i'm just naive thinking we should have the best possible tournament, not the highest grossing one. SC2 isn't large enough to just have the best play the best it seems.


Yes very naive, most professional sports Soccer and Pro ball to name a few, make that sort of compromise at the highest level, why should SC2 be any different


Actually the NBA does not make this compromise in any way. And the NBA Is the PREMIER Basketball organization in the world. If they just seeded players to garner viewers, players like Yi Jian Lian and Wang Zi Zi wouldn't have been cut. If anything they would be starters considering how big the Chinese market is.

If anything considering that the GSL Is the PREMIER league in the world, they should not seed either. I can't wait till kespa takes over and makes their own league thats sustainable enough to function without having to give out free seeds.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3755
Heh lose 2PFs , np, i just float another CC here from center, nice thinking by MVP
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3756
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-

15:30


MVP IS BUILDING A RAVEN!

16:20


Mech +2 for MVP

Mutas for Lucky

Hive for lucky

MVP has a raven

17:40


MVP has a raven

MVP is moving out

MVP has a raven!

Lucky getting a greater spire

MVP HAS A RAVEN!

20:00


Spine wall for Lucky while getting infesters

More factories and mech +3 for MVP

Who let me remind you has a raven


21:00


Ultra cavern and a nydus for Lucky


22:10


Lucky kills two bases and loses a lot of his army
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3757
Wow, those PFs fell so quick, almost one-shot.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3758
Great job im becoming a lucky fan
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Megaman_X
Profile Joined October 2011
United States164 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3759
no ghost from mvp?!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12938 Posts
January 11 2012 11:57 GMT
#3760
It's sad that Mvp can't play bio because of his wrists, mech is so boring / unnefective in TvZ
WriterMaru
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