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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3701
Sadly, I can see actually MVP losing here, putting his chances at around 70%(to win) in this game.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3702
On January 11 2012 20:48 Coolhwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:44 Sc2Null wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:42 aderum wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:40 synaptik wrote:
gomtv only seeds the foreigners to code S to show how far ahead the koreans are.


Guess we dont count nanis victorys in mlg global over neaste and mvp.


or his 1-12 in the GSL


you can throw that 1-12 around all day. But it's pretty clear Huk and Nani are without a doubt the best foreigners.

It took Stephano one day to have better stats @ GSL than Nani and he even played much better players :p
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3703
On January 11 2012 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Sick timin attack from Lux -__-


Playing LoL recently?

She's my main rofl

Nah..... Veigar all the way.

Though I should probably start playing Lux. I hear she's fun
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3704
is there no longer a ramp to the top right base?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3705
On January 11 2012 20:50 Xacalite wrote:
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On January 11 2012 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:47 Seeker wrote:
Oh damn.... Timing...


He didn't lose a orbital he is ahead


and he didnt lose a raven so all is well


He didn't build one -.-

He has a starport doing nothing...
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 11:51:31
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3706
On January 11 2012 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Sick timin attack from Lux -__-


Playing LoL recently?

She's my main rofl


No skill hero, worse then ProtossGragas.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3707
On January 11 2012 20:42 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:40 synaptik wrote:
gomtv only seeds the foreigners to code S to show how far ahead the koreans are.


Guess we dont count nanis victorys in mlg global over neaste and mvp.


So what? He can beat Koreans when they are not at 100%? What has he done inside of Korea? He beat MVP in his worse matchup with a base trade, when MVP didn't prep for Naniwa (pretty sure MVP expected Nestea to win). Part of what makes Koreans good is their intensive preparation before matches. When you don't prep sc2 is not mechanically difficult enough to always ensure that the better player wins. And don't even bother to mention MLG Providence where he started with a massive seeding advantage. Considering that he never changed his build against Leenock who did the same counter every game, it reasonable to assume that Naniwa was going to use the same build every game. IF he had to go through the ENTIRE open bracket like Nestea and many other Koreans did, SOMEONE would've hard countered him the same way Leenock did WAY before he made it to the finals. Also this isn't even taking into consideration fatigue. The sheer amount of games unseeded players and even lower seeded players had to go through makes endurance more important than actual skill. Yet in the end, he got rolled by a player that went through the ENTIRE open bracket, and championship bracket.
samaNo4
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Spain245 Posts
January 11 2012 11:50 GMT
#3708
MVP is soo smart. Whenever he receives a huge blow he drops. If he sees the enemy droning he attacks, if he sees him making units que keeps powering at home. He has done it more than once now (see DRG). Brilliant.
And then do you know what happens all of a sudden? Trumpets!!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 11 2012 11:51 GMT
#3709
On January 11 2012 20:50 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Sick timin attack from Lux -__-


Playing LoL recently?

She's my main rofl

Nah..... Veigar all the way.

Though I should probably start playing Lux. I hear she's fun


Please, Maokai just doesn't die. I'm not there for a good k-d haha
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:51 GMT
#3710
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3711
Weird putting that third down there. I thought with mech the middle one might be better. That base spread is gonna make drops pretty good.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3712
On January 11 2012 20:51 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:50 Seeker wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:49 Drazerk wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Sick timin attack from Lux -__-


Playing LoL recently?

She's my main rofl

Nah..... Veigar all the way.

Though I should probably start playing Lux. I hear she's fun


Please, Maokai just doesn't die. I'm not there for a good k-d haha


Lux doesn't die if played correctly
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3713
RAVEN INC!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3714
On January 11 2012 20:48 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:45 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:43 Fjodorov wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:39 Rebs wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:37 karpo wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:36 gullberg wrote:
Sen and Idra smacked in the first round. No need to waste invites :p


Yeah seeding foreigners seem like a total flop now.


Might want to look at Chae's interview, its going to stay and the reasoning is sound.


In fact, Chae says in the interview that they might invite players that the sponsors want. Oh yeah, isnt that just lovely.


Which is important, and additionally he wants the league to be "Global". Might want to take the Football WorldCup example into perspective, instead of just looking at the reason you want to hate on and be sarcastic about.


Oh so the world cup invites countrys the sponsors want? No, perhaps you have heard about world cup qualifiers?

Of course world cup favors 'popular' choices over actually skill. They just do it more subtly, by rationing out seeds.

Does the Asian Football federation really need 4.5 slots to qualify for the World Cup? Does "Oceania" need any slots at all? Why does Concacaf have more than 2 slots when the only relevant countries are Mexico and the USA? Why doesnt Africa, Europe and South America get more?
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3715
Just arrived from work, can't believe i missed Nestea's games

NESTEA !1!1!1 <3

Gogo Mvp !
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3716
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:43 Drazerk wrote:
Game One on Bel'Shir Beach

In the top left is Lucky

In the bottom right is MVP

2:10


Hatchery first for lucky then pool

Orbital for MVP doing a Maka rax

3:30


Expansion for MVP

Gas for Lucky

4:40


Down time ahoy!

6:10

Factory for MVP

Ling speed for Lucky

7:00


Baneling nest and a roach warren for Lucky

8:30


Armour and blue flame for MVP

Roach ling all in coming from Lucky

10:00


Banelings kill walls and bunkers

Roaches kill a lot of units

11:00


Third for lucky

MVP holds the attack


13:00


Fourth for lucky with roach speed

Mech +1 and a third for MVP


14:00


Spire and baneling speed for lucky

MVP killing creep tumours without a raven -.-


15:30


MVP IS BUILDING A RAVEN!
rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3717
a raven!
IMmvp~~
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3718
guys......he's building a raven.
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3719
On January 11 2012 20:50 samaNo4 wrote:
MVP is soo smart. Whenever he receives a huge blow he drops. If he sees the enemy droning he attacks, if he sees him making units que keeps powering at home. He has done it more than once now (see DRG). Brilliant.

Its MVP man! :p He's awesomeness
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
January 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#3720
On January 11 2012 20:50 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 20:42 aderum wrote:
On January 11 2012 20:40 synaptik wrote:
gomtv only seeds the foreigners to code S to show how far ahead the koreans are.


Guess we dont count nanis victorys in mlg global over neaste and mvp.


So what? He can beat Koreans when they are not at 100%? What has he done inside of Korea? He beat MVP in his worse matchup with a base trade, when MVP didn't prep for Naniwa (pretty sure MVP expected Nestea to win). Part of what makes Koreans good is their intensive preparation before matches. When you don't prep sc2 is not mechanically difficult enough to always ensure that the better player wins. And don't even bother to mention MLG Providence where he started with a massive seeding advantage. Considering that he never changed his build against Leenock who did the same counter every game, it reasonable to assume that Naniwa was going to use the same build every game. IF he had to go through the ENTIRE open bracket like Nestea and many other Koreans did, SOMEONE would've hard countered him the same way Leenock did WAY before he made it to the finals. Also this isn't even taking into consideration fatigue. The sheer amount of games unseeded players and even lower seeded players had to go through makes endurance more important than actual skill. Yet in the end, he got rolled by a player that went through the ENTIRE open bracket, and championship bracket.

...... Can u make this prettier next time? Use enter, it makes it easier to read
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