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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:00 VirgilSC2 wrote: I really hope IdrA can advance, if only to make things interesting. On another note, that picture is awesome. Ahhhh. You finally see the picture  | ||
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:08 red4ce wrote: I think fishuu should have included him/herself in the drawing in the OP. He/She is just as important as the rest of the regular contributors. I did not know this. I just found out from Hassybaby today myself. Fishuu is a her :D | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
I saw it earlier, Hassybaby PM'd it to me, I just didn't look at this thread until now | ||
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TTneko
Australia70 Posts
Sorry this doesn't apply when you are playing the 2 best players in the world. When others are just playing players of a way lesser caliber. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:15 TTneko wrote: "Dear IdrA: You will prove to us once and for all whether or not you are worthy of Code S...." Sorry this doesn't apply when you are playing the 2 best players in the world. When others are just playing players of a way lesser caliber. Code S is Code S. Can't be making excuses like that just for Idra. Same idea as if you lost out on the NBA Playoffs in the first round since you played the 1st seed when you were the 8th seed... You can't just give the excuse, "oh it's okay, they're the best team in the conference anyway." | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:15 TTneko wrote: "Dear IdrA: You will prove to us once and for all whether or not you are worthy of Code S...." Sorry this doesn't apply when you are playing the 2 best players in the world. When others are just playing players of a way lesser caliber. I don't expect Idra to advance, but he has a good chance against Lucky and avoid 4th in the group. Also, another thing is the quality of the games - as Sen showed on Monday, he is not up to par with the koreans. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:21 Azzur wrote: I don't expect Idra to advance, but he has a good chance against Lucky and avoid 4th in the group. Also, another thing is the quality of the games - as Sen showed on Monday, he is not up to par with the koreans. Sen is not really on par with our best foreign Terrans either compared to his other match-ups, much less Korean Terrans. =__= | ||
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:21 Azzur wrote: I don't expect Idra to advance, but he has a good chance against Lucky and avoid 4th in the group. Also, another thing is the quality of the games - as Sen showed on Monday, he is not up to par with the koreans. So if Lucky loses he's not worthy either? or does it only apply to IdrA | ||
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KiNGxXx
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:05 Kazius wrote: Idra has one of the strongest ZvT games in the world, but MVP won't care. Nestea's ZvZ is too strong. IdrA proved in MLGs that as opposed to most foreigner zerg players, his style translates well against Koreans (not called MC). In nearly any other group, I'd put him as a lock to advance, but MVP and Nestea's vZ are just impossibly strong. When he can only afford one loss, this is enough to knock him into code A. Which groups would you consider him a lock to advance? Group A - Jjakji has terrifying TvZ and Ganzi is really good too, he'd probably beat Boxer. Group B - Supernova and ForGG are both extremely good and MC always beats Idra Group D - Curious and Bomber are both extremely good He beat Bomber sure but Bomber beat Idra at Raleigh. Oz isn't that great but Idra is weak vs Protoss. He would beat Inca. Group E - MMA is almost unbeatable TvZ, Zenio is a ZvZ sniper who always seems to beat Idra and Gumiho is really underrated and good vs Zerg. Group F - Sc is another boss in TvZ and he specialises in early game shenanigans which is Idra's weakness, JYP is a PvZ expert and DRG isn't amazing vs Zerg but he's a better Zerg in general than Idra. Group G - The second easiest group but Happy has an insane TvZ win rate and Brown is 4-0 vs Zerg in GSL. MKP beat Idra at Orlando. Group H - Easiest group but two Protoss and Kean has done some pretty sick stuff like all kill Slayers recently. Basically every group is insane stacked nowadays. The days of guys like Genius, Ensnare and Hongun are long gone. Idra could get out any group here as could basically every player but he wouldn't be a favourite in any of them. | ||
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desderak
United Kingdom206 Posts
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:19 trinxified wrote: Code S is Code S. Can't be making excuses like that just for Idra. Same idea as if you lost out on the NBA Playoffs in the first round since you played the 1st seed when you were the 8th seed... You can't just give the excuse, "oh it's okay, they're the best team in the conference anyway." Actually, it is a very good excuse. You often hear sports casters saying, "no shame in losing to X." However, if you were seeded 8th, then you're already borderline not "worthy." But, if you don't want any excuses, then let's agree that if MVP and Nestea somehow don't make it out of the group then they aren't worthy of Code S. I doubt that we'll see many seasons when any given player in Code S is absolutely better than every given player in Code A. If there is a group of relative powerhouses, then it won't work out that way. I don't think worthy is a good word to use with respect to this. I think there is just being either in or out. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:42 desderak wrote: Genius is still here! xD Oh god he is. Nevermind, GSL is now 29 Gosu's, 2 foreign seed and MVP Genius void ray cheesing Terran's. | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:19 trinxified wrote: Code S is Code S. Can't be making excuses like that just for Idra. Same idea as if you lost out on the NBA Playoffs in the first round since you played the 1st seed when you were the 8th seed... You can't just give the excuse, "oh it's okay, they're the best team in the conference anyway." It's not an excuse. Obviously to be the best in the world, you'll need to beat MVP and Nestea at some point, but losing to them is no reason to call him "unworthy of Code S". 8th Seeds losing to 1st Seeds aren't told to GTFO of the pro leagues. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On January 11 2012 14:45 Seraphone wrote: Oh god he is. Nevermind, GSL is now 29 Gosu's, 2 foreign seed and MVP Genius void ray cheesing Terran's. He learned a few other builds than the voidray all-in, give him some credit. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On January 11 2012 15:06 Fionn wrote: I don't care about GSL giving Idra a free Code S seed if they give him a rising from the dead video tribute. I really want Idra to advance so he can be in the selection show for the ro16. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
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