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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
January 11 2012 03:05 GMT
#181
Actually feel it will be Lucky or IdrA for the second spot. MVP for first spot.
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Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
January 11 2012 03:05 GMT
#182
Release the Gracken!
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
January 11 2012 03:05 GMT
#183
I really hope that IdrA can make it out. Good luck IdrA.
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
January 11 2012 03:15 GMT
#184
1. Idra
2. MVP
3. Lucky
4. NesTea

I have spoken.
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:18:50
January 11 2012 03:18 GMT
#185
Man, groups this GSL are just brutal. Yesterday 3 oGs players, today the dual beasts from IM in Mvp and Nestea, Idra has a shot at lucky, but I just don't know if he can keep up with Mvp's macro. I think Idra vs. Nestea is actually close (only because its ZvZ), but certainly Nestea is going to be in absolutely ridiculous shape after being on a long break.
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6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:30:46
January 11 2012 03:25 GMT
#186
I don't see Idra beating MVP or NesTea on their home turf. Lucky.. not seen him play since IPL3, if his ZvZ is like it was then I think Idra would have that series... but as I said not seen him play since IPL3 so can't really comment.

As far as MVP goes.. its gonna be difficult enough for one of the three zergs to take a game off him let alone a series.

MVP & NesTea to the round of 16!

EDIT: Sure some people will say it was a close series at the global invitational, but this time its on NesTea's home turf... no flying for several hours to another country... a break from serious competition so time for a little rest and practise/preparation. He should be in really good shape. Could be time for lambs to the slaughter.
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Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
January 11 2012 03:38 GMT
#187
On January 11 2012 12:25 6BiT wrote:
I don't see Idra beating MVP or NesTea on their home turf. Lucky.. not seen him play since IPL3, if his ZvZ is like it was then I think Idra would have that series... but as I said not seen him play since IPL3 so can't really comment.

As far as MVP goes.. its gonna be difficult enough for one of the three zergs to take a game off him let alone a series.

MVP & NesTea to the round of 16!

EDIT: Sure some people will say it was a close series at the global invitational, but this time its on NesTea's home turf... no flying for several hours to another country... a break from serious competition so time for a little rest and practise/preparation. He should be in really good shape. Could be time for lambs to the slaughter.


Losing isn't a sign of fatigue/jet lag. If he was slipping up or if it was obvious he was extremely underperforming that would be evidence.

And it's pretty safe to say that Idra is on his home turf too.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37101 Posts
January 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#188
Less than 6 hours till some EPIC GSL games!!
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Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:48:15
January 11 2012 03:48 GMT
#189
On January 11 2012 12:38 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 12:25 6BiT wrote:
I don't see Idra beating MVP or NesTea on their home turf. Lucky.. not seen him play since IPL3, if his ZvZ is like it was then I think Idra would have that series... but as I said not seen him play since IPL3 so can't really comment.

As far as MVP goes.. its gonna be difficult enough for one of the three zergs to take a game off him let alone a series.

MVP & NesTea to the round of 16!

EDIT: Sure some people will say it was a close series at the global invitational, but this time its on NesTea's home turf... no flying for several hours to another country... a break from serious competition so time for a little rest and practise/preparation. He should be in really good shape. Could be time for lambs to the slaughter.


Losing isn't a sign of fatigue/jet lag. If he was slipping up or if it was obvious he was extremely underperforming that would be evidence.


This makes zero sense. Marginally beating someone you should be comfortably beating is no more or less a sign of jet lag than losing to someone you should comfortably beat. You can be jet lagged and still win, just as Koreans (and foreigners based in Korea) do every tournament.


And it's pretty safe to say that Idra is on his home turf too.


No he's not. How do you figure this? Idra more than anyone tends almost always only deliver in North America, he has a questionable record in Europe especially. A lot of people point to his Gsl Ro8/Ro16 as being successful last time out but by his own admission his actual skill should have brought him better results. He was legitimately amongst the absolute best in the beta and early release but his open season results never reflected that.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
January 11 2012 03:54 GMT
#190
Match 1
MVP <Entombed Valley> Lucky
(BO3 Format)
Match 2
IdrA <Dual Sight 1.1> NesTea
(BO3 Format)


Why isn't Nestea and MVP playing each other first?
I thought they made team-mates play each other within the first 2 games like the way they made Boxer / Ganzi play each other first...
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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
January 11 2012 03:55 GMT
#191
On January 11 2012 12:54 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Match 1
MVP <Entombed Valley> Lucky
(BO3 Format)
Match 2
IdrA <Dual Sight 1.1> NesTea
(BO3 Format)


Why isn't Nestea and MVP playing each other first?
I thought they made team-mates play each other within the first 2 games like the way they made Boxer / Ganzi play each other first...


This isn't round robin... if Nestea and MVP face off both will be motivated to win, either they'll face off for 1st place in group, 2nd place in group, or 3rd place in group... it won't be a case where Nestea is 0-2 and MVP is 2-0 and a game is thrown.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:56:42
January 11 2012 03:56 GMT
#192
On January 11 2012 12:48 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 12:38 Hnnngg wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:25 6BiT wrote:
I don't see Idra beating MVP or NesTea on their home turf. Lucky.. not seen him play since IPL3, if his ZvZ is like it was then I think Idra would have that series... but as I said not seen him play since IPL3 so can't really comment.

As far as MVP goes.. its gonna be difficult enough for one of the three zergs to take a game off him let alone a series.

MVP & NesTea to the round of 16!

EDIT: Sure some people will say it was a close series at the global invitational, but this time its on NesTea's home turf... no flying for several hours to another country... a break from serious competition so time for a little rest and practise/preparation. He should be in really good shape. Could be time for lambs to the slaughter.


Losing isn't a sign of fatigue/jet lag. If he was slipping up or if it was obvious he was extremely underperforming that would be evidence.


This makes zero sense. Marginally beating someone you should be comfortably beating is no more or less a sign of jet lag than losing to someone you should comfortably beat. You can be jet lagged and still win, just as Koreans (and foreigners based in Korea) do every tournament.

Show nested quote +


And it's pretty safe to say that Idra is on his home turf too.


No he's not. How do you figure this? Idra more than anyone tends almost always only deliver in North America, he has a questionable record in Europe especially. A lot of people point to his Gsl Ro8/Ro16 as being successful last time out but by his own admission his actual skill should have brought him better results. He was legitimately amongst the absolute best in the beta and early release but his open season results never reflected that.


Artosis said Nestea should've lost because that's how Nestea was playing. It's foolish to say that fact is a product of the environment he was in without more evidence.

I don't know, maybe being the country for the last 5 years might have something to do with it. It's obvious that'll he'll do better with less travel and SlayerS training which he wouldn't get in NA. He's not somehow uncomfortable being in SKorea and the home turf argument means nothing then. They're both where they are most likely to perform at their best.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 03:57:36
January 11 2012 03:56 GMT
#193
On January 11 2012 12:54 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Match 1
MVP <Entombed Valley> Lucky
(BO3 Format)
Match 2
IdrA <Dual Sight 1.1> NesTea
(BO3 Format)


Why isn't Nestea and MVP playing each other first?
I thought they made team-mates play each other within the first 2 games like the way they made Boxer / Ganzi play each other first...

That's only if they have a potential motivation to throw the game to help their teammate because they're either eliminated or already advancing. In this format if you are still playing you can still lose or win so it doesn't matter.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
January 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#194
On January 11 2012 12:54 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Match 1
MVP <Entombed Valley> Lucky
(BO3 Format)
Match 2
IdrA <Dual Sight 1.1> NesTea
(BO3 Format)


Why isn't Nestea and MVP playing each other first?
I thought they made team-mates play each other within the first 2 games like the way they made Boxer / Ganzi play each other first...

its because is group selection. Players were classified in 4 tiers. 1st tier is RO8 GSL November, rest is by points. Tier 1 plays tier 4 and then tier 2 plays tier 3. Mvp was tier 1 (RO4 Nov.) and plays Lucky (Tier 4). Nestea is tier 2 and plays IdrA (tier 3) as IdrA had points because of GSL Jan.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 11 2012 04:03 GMT
#195
Idra won't win a single game. Guaranteed.
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
January 11 2012 04:05 GMT
#196
On January 11 2012 13:03 trinxified wrote:
Idra won't win a single game. Guaranteed.



This is pretty accurate....

I hope the Gracken proves me wrong but I just don't see it
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 11 2012 04:06 GMT
#197
On January 11 2012 12:56 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 12:48 Seraphone wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:38 Hnnngg wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:25 6BiT wrote:
I don't see Idra beating MVP or NesTea on their home turf. Lucky.. not seen him play since IPL3, if his ZvZ is like it was then I think Idra would have that series... but as I said not seen him play since IPL3 so can't really comment.

As far as MVP goes.. its gonna be difficult enough for one of the three zergs to take a game off him let alone a series.

MVP & NesTea to the round of 16!

EDIT: Sure some people will say it was a close series at the global invitational, but this time its on NesTea's home turf... no flying for several hours to another country... a break from serious competition so time for a little rest and practise/preparation. He should be in really good shape. Could be time for lambs to the slaughter.


Losing isn't a sign of fatigue/jet lag. If he was slipping up or if it was obvious he was extremely underperforming that would be evidence.


This makes zero sense. Marginally beating someone you should be comfortably beating is no more or less a sign of jet lag than losing to someone you should comfortably beat. You can be jet lagged and still win, just as Koreans (and foreigners based in Korea) do every tournament.



And it's pretty safe to say that Idra is on his home turf too.


No he's not. How do you figure this? Idra more than anyone tends almost always only deliver in North America, he has a questionable record in Europe especially. A lot of people point to his Gsl Ro8/Ro16 as being successful last time out but by his own admission his actual skill should have brought him better results. He was legitimately amongst the absolute best in the beta and early release but his open season results never reflected that.


Artosis said Nestea should've lost because that's how Nestea was playing. It's foolish to say that fact is a product of the environment he was in without more evidence.


I agree, so why are you suggesting we could attribute a loss to jet lag?


I don't know, maybe being the country for the last 5 years might have something to do with it. It's obvious that'll he'll do better with less travel and SlayerS training which he wouldn't get in NA. He's not somehow uncomfortable being in SKorea and the home turf argument means nothing then. They're both where they are most likely to perform at their best.


That might seem logical but it was logical for Naniwa, Morrow, Sase, Ret, Haypro and others and yet when it came to it it didn't happen. Do you think Thorzain would lose to Yugioh or Sase to Fruitdealer at a Dreamhack? I sure don't.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 04:20:56
January 11 2012 04:09 GMT
#198
On January 11 2012 13:05 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 13:03 trinxified wrote:
Idra won't win a single game. Guaranteed.



This is pretty accurate....

I hope the Gracken proves me wrong but I just don't see it

His ZvZ looked incredibably strong against Nestea at MLG
Edit:Specifically his harrassment and macro - it was simply better than Nesteas. If IdrA can survive early timing attacks I think he'll do fine, and considering these are best of threes there is less chance of IdrA losing to cute all-in builds. I think if he plays conservatively against Lucky, he'll take that series. Im not even rooting for IdrA (He's zerg, I want you all to lose) but he's not going to bomb out like Sen.

Also, I think there is just a slight, slight chance that MVP will not make it through. Slight. No single man can be this consistant for this long.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
January 11 2012 04:13 GMT
#199
Either he will win vs everybody or barely lose. I don't see him getting owned...hes too good for that..
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
January 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#200
On January 11 2012 12:15 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:
1. Idra
2. MVP
3. Lucky
4. NesTea

I have spoken.




I have a huge problem with this. Lucky and Nestea need to switch. lol
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