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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37123 Posts
January 11 2012 06:23 GMT
#241
On January 11 2012 15:20 babylon wrote:
... Seeker's Asian, isn't he? *squints at picture*

Yup. No need to squint bro
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 11 2012 06:23 GMT
#242
On January 11 2012 14:38 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:05 Kazius wrote:
Idra has one of the strongest ZvT games in the world, but MVP won't care. Nestea's ZvZ is too strong. IdrA proved in MLGs that as opposed to most foreigner zerg players, his style translates well against Koreans (not called MC). In nearly any other group, I'd put him as a lock to advance, but MVP and Nestea's vZ are just impossibly strong. When he can only afford one loss, this is enough to knock him into code A.


Which groups would you consider him a lock to advance?

Group A - Jjakji has terrifying TvZ and Ganzi is really good too, he'd probably beat Boxer.
Group B - Supernova and ForGG are both extremely good and MC always beats Idra
Group D - Curious and Bomber are both extremely good He beat Bomber sure but Bomber beat Idra at Raleigh. Oz isn't that great but Idra is weak vs Protoss. He would beat Inca.
Group E - MMA is almost unbeatable TvZ, Zenio is a ZvZ sniper who always seems to beat Idra and Gumiho is really underrated and good vs Zerg.
Group F - Sc is another boss in TvZ and he specialises in early game shenanigans which is Idra's weakness, JYP is a PvZ expert and DRG isn't amazing vs Zerg but he's a better Zerg in general than Idra.
Group G - The second easiest group but Happy has an insane TvZ win rate and Brown is 4-0 vs Zerg in GSL. MKP beat Idra at Orlando.
Group H - Easiest group but two Protoss and Kean has done some pretty sick stuff like all kill Slayers recently.

Basically every group is insane stacked nowadays. The days of guys like Genius, Ensnare and Hongun are long gone.

Idra could get out any group here as could basically every player but he wouldn't be a favourite in any of them.

Don't underrate Oz and Genius. I'm pretty sure at least one of them will still remain until Ro8.
Peksi
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland169 Posts
January 11 2012 06:25 GMT
#243
Good luck IdrA, it's a tough group. Too bad I'm gonna miss the matches.
It can't be helped. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 11 2012 06:26 GMT
#244
On January 11 2012 15:23 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:38 Seraphone wrote:
On January 11 2012 14:05 Kazius wrote:
Idra has one of the strongest ZvT games in the world, but MVP won't care. Nestea's ZvZ is too strong. IdrA proved in MLGs that as opposed to most foreigner zerg players, his style translates well against Koreans (not called MC). In nearly any other group, I'd put him as a lock to advance, but MVP and Nestea's vZ are just impossibly strong. When he can only afford one loss, this is enough to knock him into code A.


Which groups would you consider him a lock to advance?

Group A - Jjakji has terrifying TvZ and Ganzi is really good too, he'd probably beat Boxer.
Group B - Supernova and ForGG are both extremely good and MC always beats Idra
Group D - Curious and Bomber are both extremely good He beat Bomber sure but Bomber beat Idra at Raleigh. Oz isn't that great but Idra is weak vs Protoss. He would beat Inca.
Group E - MMA is almost unbeatable TvZ, Zenio is a ZvZ sniper who always seems to beat Idra and Gumiho is really underrated and good vs Zerg.
Group F - Sc is another boss in TvZ and he specialises in early game shenanigans which is Idra's weakness, JYP is a PvZ expert and DRG isn't amazing vs Zerg but he's a better Zerg in general than Idra.
Group G - The second easiest group but Happy has an insane TvZ win rate and Brown is 4-0 vs Zerg in GSL. MKP beat Idra at Orlando.
Group H - Easiest group but two Protoss and Kean has done some pretty sick stuff like all kill Slayers recently.

Basically every group is insane stacked nowadays. The days of guys like Genius, Ensnare and Hongun are long gone.

Idra could get out any group here as could basically every player but he wouldn't be a favourite in any of them.

Don't underrate Oz and Genius. I'm pretty sure at least one of them will still remain until Ro8.


Oz is really nice vs Terran/Protoss but he's not great vs Zerg which is what mattered most for my post.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 11 2012 06:28 GMT
#245
I'm rooting for Idra and Lucky, just because I would love to see what the world is like after the space time continuum is disrupted and the universe irrevocably altered by both MVP and Nestea dropping down to Code A at the same time (clinging to their six championships as they go).
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
January 11 2012 06:35 GMT
#246
On January 11 2012 14:45 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:42 desderak wrote:
Genius is still here! xD


Oh god he is. Nevermind, GSL is now 29 Gosu's, 2 foreign seed and MVP Genius void ray cheesing Terran's.


Genius isnt that bad.

He would probably do even better than HuK nowadays.

HongUn and Ensnare are of course lesser skilled, than any of those Code S guys.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 11 2012 06:35 GMT
#247
LOL that picture. I lost it @ Seeker and VirgilSC2. Too damn true.

And I am not sure if I am ready for todays drama when IdrA inevitably loses. D:
#freeshauni
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 11 2012 06:37 GMT
#248
On January 11 2012 15:35 Elem wrote:
LOL that picture. I lost it @ Seeker and VirgilSC2. Too damn true.

And I am not sure if I am ready for todays drama when IdrA inevitably loses. D:


If he has to lose I hope it's in straight up macro games so we don't need to suffer through pages and pages of balance/cheese/random whine.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
January 11 2012 06:39 GMT
#249
nah even though sen got 4-0'ed, its ok better luck next time.

HOWEVER, if idra doesnt beat nestea + lucky, or nestea + mvp, or nestea twice, idra is total trash and needs to gtfo.

thats how our brains work =D
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 11 2012 06:41 GMT
#250
Every day I can watch MVP play is a good day <3

And well, good luck to IdrA. Normally I want him to lose (sweet fan boy tears) but today it would be good for the foreign scene if he manage to qualify for the next round.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 11 2012 06:44 GMT
#251
On January 11 2012 15:37 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 15:35 Elem wrote:
LOL that picture. I lost it @ Seeker and VirgilSC2. Too damn true.

And I am not sure if I am ready for todays drama when IdrA inevitably loses. D:


If he has to lose I hope it's in straight up macro games so we don't need to suffer through pages and pages of balance/cheese/random whine.
IdrA could go Muta/Ling in ZvT and we'd see balance whine about ZvP even though there are no ZvPs today. That is the power of his fanboys.
#freeshauni
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 07:00:07
January 11 2012 06:56 GMT
#252
On January 11 2012 14:38 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:05 Kazius wrote:
Idra has one of the strongest ZvT games in the world, but MVP won't care. Nestea's ZvZ is too strong. IdrA proved in MLGs that as opposed to most foreigner zerg players, his style translates well against Koreans (not called MC). In nearly any other group, I'd put him as a lock to advance, but MVP and Nestea's vZ are just impossibly strong. When he can only afford one loss, this is enough to knock him into code A.


Which groups would you consider him a lock to advance?

Group A - Jjakji has terrifying TvZ and Ganzi is really good too, he'd probably beat Boxer.
Group B - Supernova and ForGG are both extremely good and MC always beats Idra
Group D - Curious and Bomber are both extremely good He beat Bomber sure but Bomber beat Idra at Raleigh. Oz isn't that great but Idra is weak vs Protoss. He would beat Inca.
Group E - MMA is almost unbeatable TvZ, Zenio is a ZvZ sniper who always seems to beat Idra and Gumiho is really underrated and good vs Zerg.
Group F - Sc is another boss in TvZ and he specialises in early game shenanigans which is Idra's weakness, JYP is a PvZ expert and DRG isn't amazing vs Zerg but he's a better Zerg in general than Idra.
Group G - The second easiest group but Happy has an insane TvZ win rate and Brown is 4-0 vs Zerg in GSL. MKP beat Idra at Orlando.
Group H - Easiest group but two Protoss and Kean has done some pretty sick stuff like all kill Slayers recently.

Basically every group is insane stacked nowadays. The days of guys like Genius, Ensnare and Hongun are long gone.

Idra could get out any group here as could basically every player but he wouldn't be a favourite in any of them.


Agreed totally with most of your analysis, all the groups are really strong these days and he'd have a very hard time in every single group (at least on paper.) I'm not an IdrA fan, but I'm still expecting him to be really competitive tonight, it'll be interesting to see what happens..

Personally, I just hope Mvp kicks some ass He said he finds it hard to beat good zergs right now, but hopefully he got some good practicing in with DRG and some others!
Babs1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia37 Posts
January 11 2012 06:59 GMT
#253
How are the maps chosen after the 1st map? Is it loser's pick?
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
January 11 2012 07:05 GMT
#254
go go IdrA!
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 07:06:27
January 11 2012 07:06 GMT
#255
[wrong thread] >.<
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
January 11 2012 07:06 GMT
#256
Hoping for the gracken to be unleashed today.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 07:09:52
January 11 2012 07:06 GMT
#257
nestea... PLEASE do NOT get knocked out xD

nestea and MVP ftw!

On January 11 2012 15:56 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 14:38 Seraphone wrote:
On January 11 2012 14:05 Kazius wrote:
Idra has one of the strongest ZvT games in the world, but MVP won't care. Nestea's ZvZ is too strong. IdrA proved in MLGs that as opposed to most foreigner zerg players, his style translates well against Koreans (not called MC). In nearly any other group, I'd put him as a lock to advance, but MVP and Nestea's vZ are just impossibly strong. When he can only afford one loss, this is enough to knock him into code A.


Which groups would you consider him a lock to advance?

Group A - Jjakji has terrifying TvZ and Ganzi is really good too, he'd probably beat Boxer.
Group B - Supernova and ForGG are both extremely good and MC always beats Idra
Group D - Curious and Bomber are both extremely good He beat Bomber sure but Bomber beat Idra at Raleigh. Oz isn't that great but Idra is weak vs Protoss. He would beat Inca.
Group E - MMA is almost unbeatable TvZ, Zenio is a ZvZ sniper who always seems to beat Idra and Gumiho is really underrated and good vs Zerg.
Group F - Sc is another boss in TvZ and he specialises in early game shenanigans which is Idra's weakness, JYP is a PvZ expert and DRG isn't amazing vs Zerg but he's a better Zerg in general than Idra.
Group G - The second easiest group but Happy has an insane TvZ win rate and Brown is 4-0 vs Zerg in GSL. MKP beat Idra at Orlando.
Group H - Easiest group but two Protoss and Kean has done some pretty sick stuff like all kill Slayers recently.

Basically every group is insane stacked nowadays. The days of guys like Genius, Ensnare and Hongun are long gone.

Idra could get out any group here as could basically every player but he wouldn't be a favourite in any of them.


Agreed totally with most of your analysis, all the groups are really strong these days and he'd have a very hard time in every single group (at least on paper.) I'm not an IdrA fan, but I'm still expecting him to be really competitive tonight, it'll be interesting to see what happens..

Personally, I just hope Mvp kicks some ass He said he finds it hard to beat good zergs right now, but hopefully he got some good practicing in with DRG and some others!


@Seraphone

You do realize that pretty much every time Boxer and Idra meets, Boxer wins? He beat Idra 2-0 in the NASL and then beat Idra again in the group stages of an earlier MLG. At the more recent MLG, he lost 4-3, but their overall record is still in Boxer's favor. I know these are just statistics, but Idra is really weak against Boxer's cheesy/crazy early game strategies/micro xD
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
January 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#258
On January 11 2012 15:59 Babs1337 wrote:
How are the maps chosen after the 1st map? Is it loser's pick?

Yep
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 11 2012 07:07 GMT
#259
On January 11 2012 15:59 Babs1337 wrote:
How are the maps chosen after the 1st map? Is it loser's pick?


Yes loser's pick.

And it just hit me how scary it is that MVP and DRG are practice partners. Too imba really.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 11 2012 07:08 GMT
#260
On January 11 2012 15:59 Babs1337 wrote:
How are the maps chosen after the 1st map? Is it loser's pick?


Yes
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