[IPL TAC] Grand Finals! - Page 35

On December 23 2011 12:14 1Eris1 wrote:



Well I respect your opinion as a pro-player if you guys can't deduce from those games that there was lag (atleast Seeds) then you really need to get your eyes checked.

On December 23 2011 12:19 Highways wrote:
What it's a replay?

Thought it was live...

On December 23 2011 12:18 decerto wrote:


Even though I agree with you about the lag complaints are silly excuses. There is a big difference between serbia and sweden though in terms of location and broadband infrastructure.

On December 23 2011 12:17 HolyArrow wrote:
Maybe when the trend of KR > Foreigners in live events stops being part of reality, then people will stop making excuses about lag and stuff. As it stands now, Koreans almost always come out on top in live events, so naturally people will explain that lag plays a big role in foreigner success in online events. It's hard to say how much lag actually plays a part in the outcomes of things, but it's very easy to understand why people use lag as an excuse for Koreans in online events in the face of how Koreans typically dominate foreigners at live, lag-less events.

On December 23 2011 12:17 Letall wrote:


"you guys" way to generalize.
Who else failed to qualify for Code A? Yea pretty much every foreigner

On December 23 2011 12:22 1Eris1 wrote:



Exactly my point. By you guys I mean pretty much 90% of TL, in that they see a foreigner win a few games and the next thing you know they're good enough to compete with the top Koreans or at least get Code S.

Then what do you know, they go to Korea, usually get gifted a spot into the GSL, and flop out hard.

On December 23 2011 12:20 paschl wrote:


hm im a little confused here on who to trust.
a know pro who has actually played between all the servers or some random TL guy?

i mean yeah, obviously there is gonna be lag but if they really play on NA i doubt its much worse for the koreans than for euros.
if it is then the koreans should stop downloading prons while playing.

On December 23 2011 12:24 Maenander wrote:

Now come on, ThorZain is around for an eternity and showed consistent results throughout. He is well-respected by the korean players.

On December 23 2011 12:20 baoluvboa wrote:
Thorzain is good but its a bit disrespectful to the Korean players by downplaying the lag factor especially when Thorzain couldn't make it past Yugioh in Code A (along with all the other Swedes).

On December 23 2011 12:26 1Eris1 wrote:



Man, nowhere am I saying TZ is bad or mediocre. I personally think he's the best foreigner terran, and probably a top 5 foreigner overall.
It just pisses me off that people think those games are somehow proof that he's Code S class or can compete with MVP. People said the same about Naniwa, and he's something like 1-10 in Korea, or Stephano, who was hyped at the best zerg in the world by people on this site and then did so-so in comparion when he went over.