EPT[GSL] Blizzard Cup Grand Finals - Page 488
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
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Sliver
United States402 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:07 Sliver wrote: Great games but the amount of "BEST GAME EVER" "BEST PLAYER EVER" "BEST SERIES EVER" BEST ____ EVER" from Tastosis is getting really old. They say it for almost everything they cast. You would think the game and players improving every decent series would warrant this kind of commentary, no? | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
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Korlin
Canada142 Posts
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Ciraxis
Australia400 Posts
EDIT: Except for perhaps the one at Blizzcon that was pretty epic as well. | ||
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Suvorov
294 Posts
When DRG went for the final push, I really thought it was over for MMA. Thank god he sent those tanks to drg's expo! and microed like a god. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
Anyways maybe i was tired or what but... compared to Jjakji vs leenock, the strategy and all that, at least that of what I could see, was not as epic/smart. The first 3 wins of DRG are highly rated, but I don't remember them to be that entertaining. DRG sort of just stomped MMA. Maybe that's why they're recommended? And the fact that DRG was down 0-3. So basically the ratings take into account the other details of the entire series, instead of just that one set? I think this shouldn't happen but I guess it's inevitable. The 3rd win of DRG is so highly rated. Why? It was just the same push, and he stomped MMA o.o Only reason I can think of is because DRG has tied up the series. The last game was very close, and wtf so many votes xD. I liked the back and forth fighting, it was like BW style fighting (except in BW they have bigger armies like closer to 200 food not only like 140 right?). What I was afraid of was that they split the map in two and then boring turtling occurs, where the Z tries to break T (MVP vs Nestea... so boring xD). Once again honestly I felt the play from jjakji vs leenock was much more epic and advanced (? im no progamer). Perhaps it is just that both of their abilities and styles mixed well together, so that the games were very entertaining, but that their "skill" might be worse than DRG and MMA? The last game was close and epic but I didn't find it as entertaining, I don't think. Jjakji vs leenock had a lot of interesting sets, like base race with burrowed banelings and landing buildings to avoid them, etc. etc. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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brrip
United Kingdom211 Posts
also, is that gsl song at the end of the presentation new? anyone got a youtube/mp3 link? | ||
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GGPope
Australia367 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:38 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Anyways maybe i was tired or what but... compared to Jjakji vs leenock, the strategy and all that, at least that of what I could see, was not as epic/smart. The first 3 wins of DRG are highly rated, but I don't remember them to be that entertaining. DRG sort of just stomped MMA. Maybe that's why they're recommended? And the fact that DRG was down 0-3. So basically the ratings take into account the other details of the entire series, instead of just that one set? I think this shouldn't happen but I guess it's inevitable. This is the power of the best-of-seven series. If a player who is down three whole games and is one game away from losing the set, watching them claw their way back with excellent play is EXTREMELY exciting, regardless of whether he's just curbstomping his opponent or not. A roach-bane drop all-in is kind of interesting, not too exciting if it's the first game in a series, but if you're about to tie up a series almost NO ONE thought you could win after your initial deficit, it becomes the most intense moment of your life, and watching that is just so exciting. Jjakji vs Leenock was definitely some of the most high-level play the world has ever seen, and it was just as exciting, but this series had a lot of character and rivalry to it, and was definitely equal to or better than the games where Jjakji took his championship. | ||
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:38 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Holy fuck 570 votes for the last game? Anyways maybe i was tired or what but... compared to Jjakji vs leenock, the strategy and all that, at least that of what I could see, was not as epic/smart. The first 3 wins of DRG are highly rated, but I don't remember them to be that entertaining. DRG sort of just stomped MMA. Maybe that's why they're recommended? And the fact that DRG was down 0-3. So basically the ratings take into account the other details of the entire series, instead of just that one set? I think this shouldn't happen but I guess it's inevitable. The 3rd win of DRG is so highly rated. Why? It was just the same push, and he stomped MMA o.o Only reason I can think of is because DRG has tied up the series. The last game was very close, and wtf so many votes xD. I liked the back and forth fighting, it was like BW style fighting (except in BW they have bigger armies like closer to 200 food not only like 140 right?). What I was afraid of was that they split the map in two and then boring turtling occurs, where the Z tries to break T (MVP vs Nestea... so boring xD). Once again honestly I felt the play from jjakji vs leenock was much more epic and advanced (? im no progamer). Perhaps it is just that both of their abilities and styles mixed well together, so that the games were very entertaining, but that their "skill" might be worse than DRG and MMA? The last game was close and epic but I didn't find it as entertaining, I don't think. Jjakji vs leenock had a lot of interesting sets, like base race with burrowed banelings and landing buildings to avoid them, etc. etc. mma and drg had a shorter time to prepare compare to leenock and jjakji. | ||
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Idianci13
United States39 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:38 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Holy fuck 570 votes for the last game? Anyways maybe i was tired or what but... compared to Jjakji vs leenock, the strategy and all that, at least that of what I could see, was not as epic/smart. The first 3 wins of DRG are highly rated, but I don't remember them to be that entertaining. DRG sort of just stomped MMA. Maybe that's why they're recommended? And the fact that DRG was down 0-3. So basically the ratings take into account the other details of the entire series, instead of just that one set? I think this shouldn't happen but I guess it's inevitable. The 3rd win of DRG is so highly rated. Why? It was just the same push, and he stomped MMA o.o Only reason I can think of is because DRG has tied up the series. The last game was very close, and wtf so many votes xD. I liked the back and forth fighting, it was like BW style fighting (except in BW they have bigger armies like closer to 200 food not only like 140 right?). What I was afraid of was that they split the map in two and then boring turtling occurs, where the Z tries to break T (MVP vs Nestea... so boring xD). Once again honestly I felt the play from jjakji vs leenock was much more epic and advanced (? im no progamer). Perhaps it is just that both of their abilities and styles mixed well together, so that the games were very entertaining, but that their "skill" might be worse than DRG and MMA? The last game was close and epic but I didn't find it as entertaining, I don't think. Jjakji vs leenock had a lot of interesting sets, like base race with burrowed banelings and landing buildings to avoid them, etc. etc. What you think is spot on IMO. Jjakji vs Leenock looked far superior in terms of high level play. I think the first six games were a pretty ordinary collection of games, apart from game two on tal darim which was vey nice. None of drgs wins were amazing, like you said. Just people were excited about the comeback storyline unfolding. This series was all about the final game, it made the series...along with the 3-0 into 3-3 storyline. But yeh the final game was just unforgettable. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:07 Sliver wrote: Great games but the amount of "BEST GAME EVER" "BEST PLAYER EVER" "BEST SERIES EVER" BEST ____ EVER" from Tastosis is getting really old. They say it for almost everything they cast. Did you watch the other GSL finals?  | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:45 GGPope wrote: This is the power of the best-of-seven series. If a player who is down three whole games and is one game away from losing the set, watching them claw their way back with excellent play is EXTREMELY exciting, regardless of whether he's just curbstomping his opponent or not. A roach-bane drop all-in is kind of interesting, not too exciting if it's the first game in a series, but if you're about to tie up a series almost NO ONE thought you could win after your initial deficit, it becomes the most intense moment of your life, and watching that is just so exciting. Jjakji vs Leenock was definitely some of the most high-level play the world has ever seen, and it was just as exciting, but this series had a lot of character and rivalry to it, and was definitely equal to or better than the games where Jjakji took his championship. I agree, this was a perfect rivalry to end 2011 with. Jjakji vs Leenock wasn't really a rivalry at all ^^. On December 18 2011 10:47 ffrozenfish wrote: mma and drg had a shorter time to prepare compare to leenock and jjakji. Oh yeah, very good point. Perhaps it could have been 10 times more epic xD But maybe not I guess! Never can know xD On December 18 2011 10:53 AxionSteel wrote: What you think is spot on IMO. Jjakji vs Leenock looked far superior in terms of high level play. I think the first six games were a pretty ordinary collection of games, apart from game two on tal darim which was vey nice. None of drgs wins were amazing, like you said. Just people were excited about the comeback storyline unfolding. This series was all about the final game, it made the series...along with the 3-0 into 3-3 storyline. But yeh the final game was just unforgettable. Ah, hurray for someone agreeing :D. I guess the way they rate the games is OK actually, since some people will watch all the games in order, and experience the epicness the same way. Only the people that watch individual may be misled a little. Ultimately though the last set was definitely well deserved by e-Sports as a whole -- spectators, TL, GSL, progamers :D Very close and intense! | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On December 18 2011 10:47 ffrozenfish wrote: mma and drg had a shorter time to prepare compare to leenock and jjakji. wrong, Leenock just cameback from MLG Providence. | ||
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BirdKiller
United States428 Posts
The fact that a GSL Finals went to the 7th game is something else as well. I'm glad the GSL & GomTV finished this year off in a fantastic way, more than they could have probably hoped for. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:00 tuho12345 wrote: wrong, Leenock just cameback from MLG Providence. Actually IIRC Leenock came back 6 days before the MLG finals, and he knew he was in them for a while, while MMA/DRG knew they were in the finals like 3 days beforehand. Not to nitpick or anything | ||
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