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Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
March 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#281
The tournament map pool should have stated all maps were MLG versions as these had some features we liked. It seems like when the OP was last updated it no longer says they are the MLG versions although it should have.
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CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:47:36
March 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#282
What a joke :|
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 03 2012 19:46 GMT
#283
incontroll qq incoming. gg cyto :D
KillaRM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States40 Posts
March 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#284
Exactly why the map should be removed.
Number 1 Pure fan.
Zostix
Profile Joined June 2011
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:50:29
March 03 2012 19:48 GMT
#285
On March 04 2012 04:43 CScythe wrote:
Cyto rushes straight for the gold of course. I've never before experienced such faggotry.


Enjoy your temp ban.


No doubt that if roles were reverse iNcontroL would be all for switching out maps to make for a good series...


I would agree with you if he didn't regularly try cheesy strategies to "get any advantage he can"
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#286
Metal with gold? This is the reason why no other tournament uses it. Pretty sure they all changed it when DRG rushed gold at one of the MLG's (as well as mule imba on gold patches somewhat)

Also lag from an obs right when FF's needed to go down, feel bad for incontrol there, pretty shitty.
Maruprime.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:50:06
March 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#287
On March 04 2012 04:40 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Respect for iNcontroL. Loss of any respect whatsoever for Cytoplasm.

No doubt that if roles were reverse iNcontroL would be all for switching out maps to make for a good series...

Why on EARTH does Koth still have normal Metal anyways?

Hopefully Cyto just gets stomped...


Respect for Incontrol for not making sure what maps are being played before accepting an invite into a KOTH? It's his responsibility to voice his concerns BEFORE games are played, not after you're more than halfway through the series. He fucked up and it's ultimately his responsibility. Saying that, I hope they do fix the map in the future. You have to do things the right way and causing some drama in the middle of the series because you weren't aware exactly what maps are being played is not the right way.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
March 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#288
This is bs, if patches can change tournament then surely they can change shitty maps off the pool. I feel sorry for iNcontroL, he was robbed.
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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:51:22
March 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#289
On March 04 2012 04:45 KillaRM wrote:
Show nested quote +


If its in the rules, I think he should have been aware. If he missed it, then fine its an honest mistake, but that doesn't change the fact that the rule say the map is in it. And no, the rules of a tournament are final. If they wanted to they could make this a bo7 all on steppes of war, as a player if you think its stupid you simply don't play.

The thing is the rules can be changed and should be changed to prevent imbalanced maps from being played. Yes, the rules are final but they can be changed. If MLG or GSL allowed a imbalanced map without knowing, I'm sure they would change the map to prevent bad games.


Yet a map like xel naga caverns remained the MLG map pool for so long. If cytoplasm came into the series having a specific build order for this specific map, then it isnt fair for him to be forced to change his strategies because incontrol doesn't approve of the map.


On March 04 2012 04:49 Kamais Ookin wrote:
This is bs, if patches can change tournament then surely they can change shitty maps off the pool. I feel sorry for iNcontroL, he was robbed.


yes because all of cyto's wins were on gold metalopolis.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#290
Why so bm, incontrol?

You're just shortening your esports career even more with that. You know, it's not like you are invited to these showmatches because you're one of the best players, but because of your personality. Don't lose that too.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#291
On March 04 2012 04:45 KillaRM wrote:
Show nested quote +


If its in the rules, I think he should have been aware. If he missed it, then fine its an honest mistake, but that doesn't change the fact that the rule say the map is in it. And no, the rules of a tournament are final. If they wanted to they could make this a bo7 all on steppes of war, as a player if you think its stupid you simply don't play.

The thing is the rules can be changed and should be changed to prevent imbalanced maps from being played. Yes, the rules are final but they can be changed. If MLG or GSL allowed a imbalanced map without knowing, I'm sure they would change the map to prevent bad games.

They wouldn't, at least not when players are picking their maps mid-series.

A player can't just go "that map is imbalanced, I won't play on that". There needs to be set rules that you go by, else the tournament/match loses all integrity.
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:51:28
March 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#292
It's in the rules guys.
edit: guys it's in the rules. guys.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
March 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#293
i only saw this last game, always liked incontrol's personality but man, hes bad
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#294
Such a joke that they kept the one with gold. I can't believe cyto was pushing so hard for it too.. sigh.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#295
well I guess before I accept a match I need to check and make sure the league isn't the only one on the fucking planet that forgot about a map being horrifically imbalanced.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 19:52:54
March 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#296
You guys should change the name of this to "Imba Talks"
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
March 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#297
Take any advantage you can. Doesn't matter if it's unsportsmanlike, it's a competition for money.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
March 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#298
Fact is, Incontrol dropped 3 games before the bad map had a chance to effect anything. BMing everyone like that was just bad form.
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
March 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#299
That was pretty cheap. Feel bad for Incontrol. Kind of douchey from Cytoplasm but hey man, $300 bucks on the line, I'd be cheap too. GG Inc. Still a fan.
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1323 Posts
March 03 2012 19:53 GMT
#300
On March 04 2012 04:49 Corrosive wrote:
Metal with gold? This is the reason why no other tournament uses it. Pretty sure they all changed it when DRG rushed gold at one of the MLG's (as well as mule imba on gold patches somewhat)

Also lag from an obs right when FF's needed to go down, feel bad for incontrol there, pretty shitty.


Nope, the lag was _AFTER_ he needed to forcefield.
Watch the VoD, you'll see.
iNcontroL is being a crybaby, it's in the rules so deal with it.
nope
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