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aGn
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria5 Posts
March 04 2012 03:12 GMT
#441
In my opinon this thread gets really really sad.

It basically comes down to a few simple points.

- map was in the pool, you call yourself professional you absolutley need to be aware of that.

- imba map ? Well maybe, but i wouldnt change the map either. Am i an asshole because of that ? I dont think so, there is money on the line, it stood in the rules. I personally would "rage" at imbatv but why would anyone hate the player ? I mean you can throw away your advantage but thats ... you know ?!

- Imo flaming during a "progamer-match" is something that shouldnt really ever happen, it makes everything just look so unproffesional.

Those are facts, you just cant argue with most of them. I dont hate incontrol, neither i love him - pretty cool mannered guy, as far as i knew till now -.
Imo this whole discussion makes it just worse, just stop it and stop flaming anyone. There are points for and against but i can understand cyto really well, and even every incontrol fanboy should read his post and rethink theire comments. Just think incontrol was in this position and wanted the "imba-map", everybody here would say YEAH SURE STOOD IN THE RULES LOLOL... think about it.
FuFighter
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany60 Posts
March 04 2012 12:47 GMT
#442
On March 04 2012 08:04 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 07:15 iNcontroL wrote:
On March 04 2012 07:09 Antithesis wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:53 imbalanced.tv wrote:
We will not allow this type of mistake to happen again and we are learning from these mistakes to correct them in the future. We only want to put more into the community not take away from it because we are all about the community and about the people who make it happen.

Don't worry too much, people love drama.

Overall, while it certainly might have been a little unfavorable for Incontrol, it's absurd to blow this thing out of proportion as if Incontrol only lost because of this map. He still lost 4-2 and he certainly had the possibility to win despite the map.

Also, based on his comments in this thread, but also for quite some time, I'm significantly more annoyed by Incontrol's double standards and ongoing overractions to any critical comment while he doesn't hesitate to use clear words himself. Yes, a manner-bear would have accepted the more balanced map, but a cool-headed person also would have accepted the bad map that is in the pool. Deal with it.


Is it that english isn't your first language?

I did accept the map. What double standards do you see from me? What overreactions?

In general you should probably just go away..

Wow, I didn't mean to insult you and I also like your casting, but the tone of you answer actually represents what I critized. I write a single sentence about you and you passively flame my language skills (or what did your question aim at?) and you tell me to "just go away". Why so angry?

Examples for overreactions: Instead of writing one clear statement (like Cypo did) you write a bunch of hot headed comments to random posters. That happens regularly after you have a debated appearance in a show. I have no problem with edgy comments, but that's what I refered to with double standards: You have no problem with expressing your oppinion in a very "direct" manner and want other people to accept it, but whenever someone slightly critizises you, you fall into a total defense mode (and tell them to "go away").

However, again, I don't want to flame you and I generally don't care about BM at all, my comment was just an observation. Just think about if maybe you could react a little cooler sometimes...

And also I hope this post pleases your language expectations. If it doesn't, please give me some pointers, I need to work on it.


I have had the same feeling for quite a while now, so thanks for pointing that out Antitheses. I used to really like Incontrol but his behaviour in this and a lot of others threads I've read recently is just silly and childish. Don't want to hate on him either but maybe he should consider working on that..

Anyways: I think people should stop making a big deal out of each and every mistake a player/organisation makes. Sure, the mappool situation was less then ideal but IMBAtv apologized and want to change it now so let's just move on instead of being like "Oh, they made this mistake, they suck, I will never watch anything they do ever again".

But I guess you're right, people love the drama.
"Scissors are fine, Paper is IMBA." - Rock
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 04 2012 14:19 GMT
#443
I have to say I quite enjoy this whole incident.
Just a very good example why we should have standardized map versions and also an universal map pool of maps that are proven to be somewhat balanced. It's quite retarded when outdated and imbalanced maps are played and it's also too many maps and map versions around for pros to practice the maps properly.

That said the fanboys seem to cry a bit too much in here. Cytoplasm didn't do anything wrong. From reading the map pool it's pretty clear that it's not a modified version.

Also Incontrol, why so angry? From reading your posts in here you don't appear to be very likeable...
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Humvee_Ruin
Profile Joined February 2012
India12 Posts
March 04 2012 15:07 GMT
#444
Not to be a killjoy or a side tracker or anything, but when will voting for the next week take place?
IamAddicted
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 15:15:41
March 04 2012 15:10 GMT
#445
On March 05 2012 00:07 Humvee_Ruin wrote:
Not to be a killjoy or a side tracker or anything, but when will voting for the next week take place?


There will be no poll for next week since the season is over. We are working on bringing you guys season 3 very soon with new players and better maps. Keep an eye on the original post thats where we will update the rules maps and players for season 3 once everything is prepared.
ShoutCaster at imbalanced.tv http://twitter.com/IMBAtvAddicted
Humvee_Ruin
Profile Joined February 2012
India12 Posts
March 04 2012 15:15 GMT
#446
On March 05 2012 00:10 Addicted2Good wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 00:07 Humvee_Ruin wrote:
Not to be a killjoy or a side tracker or anything, but when will voting for the next week take place?


There will be no poll for next week since the season is over. We are working on brining you guys season 3 very soon with new players and better maps. Keep an eye on the original post thats where we will update the rules maps and players for season 3 once everything is prepared.


Thanks for the help and thank you IMBA.tv for this amazing KOTH.
Forester33
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel3 Posts
April 13 2012 19:09 GMT
#447
home of the non stop starcraft action! =)
OH DAMN
IamAddicted
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 19:17:37
April 13 2012 19:15 GMT
#448
The thread is updated with new rules and a new map pool. Check the thread regularly for the announcement of the participating players.

Also graphics are in production for the thread so it looks more sexy
ShoutCaster at imbalanced.tv http://twitter.com/IMBAtvAddicted
imbalanced.tv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States82 Posts
April 14 2012 02:13 GMT
#449
Holy Crap we cant wait! Such a player list omgomgomg
xSilverx
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden76 Posts
April 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#450
God i wanna see the player list can´t wait so hurry up and post it=D
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
June 07 2012 02:19 GMT
#451
On March 05 2012 00:10 Addicted2Good wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 00:07 Humvee_Ruin wrote:
Not to be a killjoy or a side tracker or anything, but when will voting for the next week take place?


There will be no poll for next week since the season is over. We are working on bringing you guys season 3 very soon with new players and better maps. Keep an eye on the original post thats where we will update the rules maps and players for season 3 once everything is prepared.


has season 3 started yet?
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