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kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
March 03 2012 21:03 GMT
#401


User was temp banned for this post.
Gladius
Profile Joined March 2012
3 Posts
March 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#402
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic
Cytoplasm
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden29 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 21:08:14
March 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#403
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic



if you read my whole post, then u understand my logic. insteed of reading 1 line that i wrote
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 21:08:37
March 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#404
Surely the map pool was known when all the players agreed to play in this tournament? (?)

Although gold base no rocks metal is awful


On March 04 2012 06:08 Cytoplasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic



if you read my whole post, then u understand my logic. insteed of reading 1 line that i wrote


There is no point interacting with 1 post warriors mate
@followMVT
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
March 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#405
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic


It was 1 map and 5 others had allrdy been played I was entertained. Btw post on you main you coward

User was temp banned for this post.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#406
On March 04 2012 05:48 iNcontroL wrote:


Look we are all good. I don't hate cyto at all. Play to win? Sure I get that. Was angering in the heat of battle to find out a league was shit and a player was arguing to make the shit happen. But life goes on.


lol more passive aggressive
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
March 03 2012 21:11 GMT
#407
On March 04 2012 06:08 Cytoplasm wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic


if you read my whole post, then u understand my logic. insteed of reading 1 line that i wrote

Please do not answer to an imbecile who took the time to create an account just to insult someone!
Also thanks to Imba for the showmatch, people are making too much of a deal because of a single game instead of looking at the whole series.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Gladius
Profile Joined March 2012
3 Posts
March 03 2012 21:14 GMT
#408
On March 04 2012 06:08 Cytoplasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic



if you read my whole post, then u understand my logic. insteed of reading 1 line that i wrote


I read the whole post. This was just something that made me really angry cause its logic was so wrong. And nothing else that you said is relevant to this one line. Plus I had other points in my post that you did not address because you're were wrong in what you did and now you're a hypocrite
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
March 03 2012 21:15 GMT
#409
On March 04 2012 06:08 Cytoplasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic



if you read my whole post, then u understand my logic. insteed of reading 1 line that i wrote


Don't let people make you feel bad. At least in my opinion, you did the right thing.
Gladius
Profile Joined March 2012
3 Posts
March 03 2012 21:17 GMT
#410
On March 04 2012 06:08 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:04 Gladius wrote:
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


So your logic behind it is to take an unfair advantage to win money because your opponent would win less money? You pissed people off because you exploited the rules to make money and not give us the entertainment that was promised. You deserve incontrol hating you and to lose fans because you said fuck you to all of them for $300. Pathetic


It was 1 map and 5 others had allrdy been played I was entertained. Btw post on you main you coward


This is my main. This is the first time I have ever posted on TL. This is my handle on SC.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
March 03 2012 21:17 GMT
#411
On March 04 2012 06:10 SirBlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:48 iNcontroL wrote:


Look we are all good. I don't hate cyto at all. Play to win? Sure I get that. Was angering in the heat of battle to find out a league was shit and a player was arguing to make the shit happen. But life goes on.


lol more passive aggressive

You don't have anything more to add to the discussion, do you? Go read other threads or something.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 21:38:13
March 03 2012 21:17 GMT
#412
edit: the guy clearly isn't worth risking it for.
AcesAnoka
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium262 Posts
March 03 2012 21:19 GMT
#413
Dura lex sed lex.

Incontrol should have spoken up earlier, a nice series nevertheless.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 03 2012 21:20 GMT
#414
G'day chap, mayhaps I post in the opposing manner! I tend to agree with mine own status of configurement in regard to how I generally regard this consideration!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#415
On March 04 2012 05:44 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 04 2012 05:34 Cytoplasm wrote:
And by the way , i remeber NASL Season 1 with their maps . everyone hated it . but they didnt change it until season 2 . why should this be any diffrent?

and people bitched and complained about it and they should have changed the maps before season 2. There is no good reason to continue using horrible maps. NONE.

You must have been raging at a lot of tournaments in your days then since most of them have had maps that were imbalanced and not changed during season/tournament.
Need I remind you of a certain map known as Testbug? Yeah, it was horrible, and MLG kept it for a long time.
GSL used crossfire in the finals even though its being cut in the next season, this is just common practice for tournaments, you have a set map pool for the season and you roll with it.

so just because everyone fucks up, its ok to fuck up? No, thats not how it works. They need to do a better job with maps, every tournament does. Every tournament will continue to get shit for it as well. And they should. We are being robbed of good games because of terrible maps being used.
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StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
March 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#416
Everything is fine. Calm down. Incontrol was mad, no one blames him. Cyto isn't a thug for picking a map that favors him.

Jesus fuck, aren't we Starcraft people such drama queens? So much butthurt going on in the LBC.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
March 03 2012 21:22 GMT
#417
On March 04 2012 05:27 Cytoplasm wrote:
Ok . First of all i want to say sorry to iNcontroll if he thinks im a total jerk now or something . I personally agree to 100% that Metalopolis Blizzard version shouldnt be in the mappool , But it is. Its not my fault. And im damn sure the organizers didnt think (lets put a imbalanced map in the mappool) when they made the rules. . There are some maps i dont agree with in the mappool they are using , for example Xel naga caverns , but i knew that the map was in this koth when i said yes to my invite for playing this awesome koth. These versions were played in the previous weeks of this koth and i see no reason to change it last week just out of a principle. I dont see why i would agree to change it when it favors me and there is 300$ on the line to win for me (only 100 for incontroll since he was my challanger) . For those of you who thought i did the wrong decision , im sorry . hope i didnt piss of to many people who thinks i did a wrong decision sticking to the rules because if favored me.

I hope you iNcontroll wont dislike me for such a stupid thing.

Thanks

ps. good job to imbaTV for hosting an awesome KOTH show and i enjoy to see it again!


I wouldn't worry about it dude, some people are just sanctimonious fucks and always will be, you played good and convincingly won a series against a player who plays for a large team etc, you should feel good about yourself. Ignore the stupid hate. tbh it shows good character that you have come out and apologized for something that wasn't even your fault.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 21:26:25
March 03 2012 21:24 GMT
#418
Changing the map pool while being in tournament is tricky. I think there should be a distinction between those whith only one match (showmatches) and ongoing tournaments with more than one match. In those it would be unfair to the players who already played under some rules to just change them in the progress of the tournament. If there is only one match I don't really see any harm in changing the rules.

But even in the first case I doubt a lot of people (players + audience) would get very mad about changing the rules if the change is ~objectively making the tournament system fairer.

All in all I can't get myself to blame Cytoplasm for his decision too much, though I would have loved it for the tournament runners and Cyto to just say "hey, you're right geoff, we should play on a more modern version of the map".
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narkissos
Profile Joined December 2011
198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 21:27:41
March 03 2012 21:27 GMT
#419
On March 04 2012 06:21 StarStrider wrote:
Everything is fine. Calm down. Incontrol was mad, no one blames him. Cyto isn't a thug for picking a map that favors him.

Jesus fuck, aren't we Starcraft people such drama queens? So much butthurt going on in the LBC.


QFT jesus people, calm down.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
March 03 2012 21:37 GMT
#420
i think if this whole situation was put to the public, but no names were mentioned it would be alot different.
If someone came out and said that the rules 'said' Metalopolis (i put said in speech marks cos the map pool just said metalopolis, and i think everyone would automatically, upon seeing it, think it was a balanced version as opposed to the garbage that blizz made in this case) and then the 2 players (not naming either of them) got into an argument about which version it should be on. At which point it was decided that it would be the imbalanced version, in which case the player who wanted to imba map abused it the best they could.

If you put that to the public, you would have half as many people hating on incontrol as you do now. Unfortunately he just gets alot of hate. Yea maybe he didnt handle it perfectly, but all the people flaming him for are dont have any idea what its like to be in that situation. Where youre 0-3 down in a BO7 against a player far inferior to you (no offence intended) and when you know you'll get alot of stick if you lose. you start a comback and on a pivital game youre gonna have to play on a completely ZvP favoured map, and thats metal as it is, nevermind with the gold in. But i think he was right to complain about it, maybe not so aggresively though.

And i can bet any amount of money that if incontrol somehow managed to end a SHOWMATCH (i put that in caps cos people are always saying that showmatches are about entertainment and fun games) in a way like this becuase he picked an imbalanced map, he'd get so much hate it would probably break the internet

that being said, both players played well and deserve congratulations, shame the same cant be said for the casters/admins
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