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waNNabeGUY
Profile Joined October 2011
7 Posts
December 06 2011 20:04 GMT
#181
i am not surprised that 5th player for dignitas wasnt ready, i guess everyone expected that star players (KiLLer or merz) can all-kill low team like SlayerS

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jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
December 06 2011 20:12 GMT
#182
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


So how come Mill were invited to this? I love IPL and team arena was awesome... but thse forfeited teams need to be punsiehd. I don't even think its too harsh to DQ them from tourney unless they have a VERY good reason.
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
December 06 2011 20:21 GMT
#183
On December 06 2011 20:36 dignitas.merz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:59 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:53 Duravi wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:47 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:42 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:41 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?


Of Dignitas being selected to participate in the league.


Technically yes but you can say that about any team. We've already gone over the team selection issues. Is it disappointing that Dignitas didn't bring out Select, Sjow, or a 5th player? Yes. Is it worth tons of drama and bashing on Dignitas? No.

It may not be worth tons of drama but it is definitely worth bashing Dignitas. They didn't show respect for your league or the fans watching, that should mean something to you.


It definitely does mean a lot of me. I meant "bashing" more as serious attacks on Dignitas, who have competed faithfully in IPL 1, 2, 3 and other tournaments we've run. Them not being ready with a 5th player sucks, no doubt, and they should have been ready to go but it doesn't mean that they are a terrible team who was out to disrespect us, you, and the audience in general. This is literally the first incident we've had with them, and jumping on them for forfeiting one game seems a little premature. Not saying the audience shouldn't be disappointed though, as we certainly were.


Extremely tight schedules and troubles with fitting KST with CET led to this unfortunately. SlayerS could only play at certain times which were either extremely late for us or extremely early and we also had players attending both MLG Providence and Dreamhack Winter during all of this, including the travelling time for players who went to both events (SjoW & SeleCT for example) it was just very hard to find a fit time. We did what we could to bring out a 5th player but in the end we couldn't pull through. This is of course disappointing both for us and for the fans/viewers but know we really tried our best to get this to work.


lol so basically it was so players could sleep. MMA played a (practically) meaningless game vs Stephano for IPL3 qualifiers at 8am korean time, after staying up all night....
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 06 2011 20:31 GMT
#184
On December 07 2011 05:04 waNNabeGUY wrote:
i am not surprised that 5th player for dignitas wasnt ready, i guess everyone expected that star players (KiLLer or merz) can all-kill low team like SlayerS

[image loading]

Don't post memes on TL, it's in the rules. It is very weird that they forfeited without putting out a 'big name'.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#185
Agh, the end was disappointing, but with a manager and a player of dignitas apologizing for it, there shouldn't be any hard feelings. Besides, the missing players had good reason why they could not participate, so it's okay (<- not a Naniwa "it's okay" which can mean anything).
SjoW
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden67 Posts
December 06 2011 21:26 GMT
#186
Im sorry if I couldnt attend for this. But it was a really busy time for me traveling all over the world etc. Me and select were actually in MLG providence when the slayers clanwar was played. We tried to get hold of computers to play from mlg but didnt succeed. Im sorry if I let anyone down, I will attend everything I can in the future. Sorry again!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 21:30:29
December 06 2011 21:27 GMT
#187
nvm, taking that back. not staring to flame mill.
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
December 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#188
On December 07 2011 06:26 SjoW wrote:
Im sorry if I couldnt attend for this. But it was a really busy time for me traveling all over the world etc. Me and select were actually in MLG providence when the slayers clanwar was played. We tried to get hold of computers to play from mlg but didnt succeed. Im sorry if I let anyone down, I will attend everything I can in the future. Sorry again!


Sorry you guys couldn't get to play

Chobopeon just echoed this on SC report too. SeleCT all kill coming for losers bracket just saying.
EG | Liquid | Dignitas | FXO | SlayerS | TSL | iS | Fan of pretty much all players ^_^ | SeleCT <3 forever! Axslav <3
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
December 07 2011 01:30 GMT
#189
On December 07 2011 06:26 SjoW wrote:
Im sorry if I couldnt attend for this. But it was a really busy time for me traveling all over the world etc. Me and select were actually in MLG providence when the slayers clanwar was played. We tried to get hold of computers to play from mlg but didnt succeed. Im sorry if I let anyone down, I will attend everything I can in the future. Sorry again!



You know that is all it takes to turn something negative into a positive. A lot of viewers just want to see that someone at Dignitas cares enough to respond. Even though it should have been a statement from the team I appreciate Sjow responding.
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
December 07 2011 14:10 GMT
#190
On December 07 2011 10:30 Takezou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 06:26 SjoW wrote:
Im sorry if I couldnt attend for this. But it was a really busy time for me traveling all over the world etc. Me and select were actually in MLG providence when the slayers clanwar was played. We tried to get hold of computers to play from mlg but didnt succeed. Im sorry if I let anyone down, I will attend everything I can in the future. Sorry again!



You know that is all it takes to turn something negative into a positive. A lot of viewers just want to see that someone at Dignitas cares enough to respond. Even though it should have been a statement from the team I appreciate Sjow responding.

There was
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
December 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#191
Alex from IGN said that the consequences for dignitas is that they will less likely be invited to future ipl events. However, we see that Millenium was invited even after the last debacle. I feel like IPL is speaking double talk. they talk the talk, but when it comes down to it they don't back up their words with action.
Don't mind me
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 07 2011 21:23 GMT
#192
On December 08 2011 06:08 ptbl wrote:
Alex from IGN said that the consequences for dignitas is that they will less likely be invited to future ipl events. However, we see that Millenium was invited even after the last debacle. I feel like IPL is speaking double talk. they talk the talk, but when it comes down to it they don't back up their words with action.


They are trying to start up a new team league, and you do not want to burn bridges like that. Without the teams, this event would not even be possible. Should dignitas or Millenium have forfeited? Of course not, and IPL needs to discuss with the management about this issue. But by being overly punitive to these teams, IPL destroys the working relationships that it has with these teams. IPL wants to grow, but they realize they cannot react, as it is hard to grow a team league when you start banning teams from participation.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
December 07 2011 21:37 GMT
#193
On December 08 2011 06:08 ptbl wrote:
Alex from IGN said that the consequences for dignitas is that they will less likely be invited to future ipl events. However, we see that Millenium was invited even after the last debacle. I feel like IPL is speaking double talk. they talk the talk, but when it comes down to it they don't back up their words with action.

Millenium was slotted to participate before they played SlayerS in the normal Team Arena. Hope that's clear.
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