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Coffins
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada85 Posts
December 06 2011 02:37 GMT
#141
slayers too strong
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 02:38:35
December 06 2011 02:37 GMT
#142
On December 06 2011 11:32 lichter wrote:
Wow I was wondering why this suddenly ended after I went to water my plants (i love my plants)

These teams give up too fast -__- ''


It's a helpless feeling really, knowing that your entire lineup is unable to do anything to stop a B-teamer (whom very few people had even heard of before Team Arena) from decimating your team. Perhaps the worst part is knowing that even as you are losing, you are being toyed around with and can do nothing to stop it. Liquid put up some resistance against the B-team, as did Tyloo (or more like just Uhen), but Millenium, Acer, aTn were all helplessly played. It's a very humiliating experience.

Should they have forfeit? Hell no, you fight until the end.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
December 06 2011 02:39 GMT
#143
Sad to see Dignitas have to forfeit, but congrats to SlayerS.

Golden such a Team Arena gosu.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
December 06 2011 02:41 GMT
#144
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 06 2011 02:41 GMT
#145
Golden is the IPL Bonjwa. Makes teams quit and everything.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#146
I can't believe Tyloo is the only team that gave SlayerS a run for their money.
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
December 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#147
I think that the team representative of Dignitas needs to come out and publicly apologize.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
December 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#148
On December 06 2011 11:41 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?


Of Dignitas being selected to participate in the league.
MotherGoose
Profile Joined March 2011
66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 02:16:30
December 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#149
On December 06 2011 11:26 dinosrwar wrote:
Lolololol another forfeit against SlayerS? What, were Dignitas past their bedtimes too?


Perhaps they have school tomorrow with Millenium. Anyway, I am very disappointed, I set some time aside to watch this and I thought the teams and players would put their best effort in. There needs to be a clearer penalty imposed, it robs the fans from around the world to see some games. Forfeiting without good reason, esp. without bothering to put you have strong players in the line up, shows that the team weren't treating this seriously and were being disrespectful. It's to put it bluntly, a mockery and Dignitas needs to apologize to the everyone in the community.

---

Edit (7/12): Okay, they apologized and explained, so I am satisfied now. Apology accepted. In future, can the teams do their best to compete in these events? It is a good opportunity to gain exposure, and see some people you don't normally play.

If the teams don't have enough players, they should notify the organizers and other teams to see if they can get special permission to use another player - for example the the 'SlayerS vs Alternate' team arena, ESC.Goody was granted special permission to play. I'm sure there are many other pro-gamers itching to have a chance to get the opportunity to play in this series.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 06 2011 02:44 GMT
#150
On December 06 2011 11:42 babylon wrote:
I can't believe Tyloo is the only team that gave SlayerS a run for their money.


Mouz did a good job, losing 3-5 to Slayers' A-team (mostly). Liquid did decent as well, and actually had the lead at one point, but alas, the Slayers B-team was too strong for TL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 06 2011 02:45 GMT
#151
Man, this makes team leagues look bad. Team leagues are my favorite tournaments, and 1 team forfeiting is enough as it is.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
December 06 2011 02:45 GMT
#152
What I don't understand is why a team would sign up for an event like this, and forfeit out of the first round when they are down in maps. I feel like it has to just be that they didn't have a fifth player available. Otherwise it just seems nonsensical.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 02:46:55
December 06 2011 02:46 GMT
#153
Maybe Select and Sjow were too busy practicing for something else/away?
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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
December 06 2011 02:47 GMT
#154
On December 06 2011 11:42 dinosrwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:41 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?


Of Dignitas being selected to participate in the league.


Technically yes but you can say that about any team. We've already gone over the team selection issues. Is it disappointing that Dignitas didn't bring out Select, Sjow, or a 5th player? Yes. Is it worth tons of drama and bashing on Dignitas? No.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
December 06 2011 02:47 GMT
#155
forfeiting matches like this shouldn't be acceptable
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 06 2011 02:50 GMT
#156
On December 06 2011 11:46 iSometric wrote:
Maybe Select and Sjow were too busy practicing for something else/away?


Maybe, but there are no major tournaments that they are going to this month that has a bigger prize pool than this, and they seriously cannot take an hour from their week to play a game?

Know why Slayers uses so many B-teamers? First to hide the strategies that the A-team plans to use in the GSL and other major tournaments, but also to give them experience competing and practice. Playing in this likely would have helped Select and Sjow with their practice, and give them a chance to test their skills.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
December 06 2011 02:53 GMT
#157
On December 06 2011 11:47 Alex.IGN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:42 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:41 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?


Of Dignitas being selected to participate in the league.


Technically yes but you can say that about any team. We've already gone over the team selection issues. Is it disappointing that Dignitas didn't bring out Select, Sjow, or a 5th player? Yes. Is it worth tons of drama and bashing on Dignitas? No.

It may not be worth tons of drama but it is definitely worth bashing Dignitas. They didn't show respect for your league or the fans watching, that should mean something to you.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
December 06 2011 02:59 GMT
#158
On December 06 2011 11:53 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 11:47 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:42 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:41 Alex.IGN wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:36 dinosrwar wrote:
On December 06 2011 11:31 Alex.IGN wrote:
The penalty is that we are far less likely to invite them to future events. We obviously don't want teams to not finish out a series, but it is also different from if they didn't show up completely.


Didn't other teams lose a slot as a result? Like Empire, for instance?


Lose a slot as a result of what?


Of Dignitas being selected to participate in the league.


Technically yes but you can say that about any team. We've already gone over the team selection issues. Is it disappointing that Dignitas didn't bring out Select, Sjow, or a 5th player? Yes. Is it worth tons of drama and bashing on Dignitas? No.

It may not be worth tons of drama but it is definitely worth bashing Dignitas. They didn't show respect for your league or the fans watching, that should mean something to you.


It definitely does mean a lot of me. I meant "bashing" more as serious attacks on Dignitas, who have competed faithfully in IPL 1, 2, 3 and other tournaments we've run. Them not being ready with a 5th player sucks, no doubt, and they should have been ready to go but it doesn't mean that they are a terrible team who was out to disrespect us, you, and the audience in general. This is literally the first incident we've had with them, and jumping on them for forfeiting one game seems a little premature. Not saying the audience shouldn't be disappointed though, as we certainly were.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
December 06 2011 03:02 GMT
#159
Quite frankly this is embarrassing on the part of Dignitas to not be able to field a 5th player in a tournament with this kind of money on the line when you have nine people on your roster. After first Mill. and now Dignitas I can't see Boxer having that favorable of an opinion over the conduct some of the Western teams show in the events. I don't know how IPL goes about scheduling these matches but from my viewpoint IPL has always done well to accommodate.

These guys are supposed to be professionals and half the roster can't show up to represent their team and sponsors in a team tournament of this size. I guess a Western Proleague is not an attainable goal if the standard these teams have for themselves is so low.
boSeok
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 03:04:58
December 06 2011 03:04 GMT
#160
well i dont see anything wrong... people quit all the time.. i rather forfeit 5-1 rather than be toyed with and lose 9-1...

it is disrespectful but there is a reason why there is a surrender button.. if you ever think you cant win you click it.
this is the same thing as forfeiting a tournament
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